All Whites, Ferns, and other international teams

AW's vs NC - Take Two - Home match Thread

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Saturday night�s All Whites� victory had an eerily familiar look about it. Seven years ago, in Noumea�s Stade Numa Daly, the black-clad New Zealand Youth team defeated New Caledonia 2-1 in Oceania Section World Cup Qualifying. The scorer of both New Zealand goals that night? Shane Smeltz.

The teenaged Smeltz was playing only his second international, and those were his first international goals - a clinical close range header and an efficient far post finish. He backed up with a sublime strike against the Solomon Islands and helped New Zealand top the group and earn a two-legged playoff with the Auld Enemy.

Wind forward to 2008, and Smeltz is again making that trek from Noumea to North Harbour Stadium. In 2001, it resulted in a memorable victory over Australia; he will surely be hoping for a similarly rousing effort in front of home fans tonight.

Joining him from that youth side are David Mulligan, Ben Sigmund, Tim Brown and Jeremy Christie, while Chris Killen would have partnered him up front but for injury. This representation not only emphasises why that squad was considered our country�s best ever at U20 level, but also the shared focus and desire of our current national team.

Smeltz�s story is all about overcoming frustration and maintaining belief. At various junctures in his club and international career, the pacey frontrunner has endured obstacles that would have floored others.
But he keeps bouncing back.
A lack of opportunities with the Brisbane Strikers saw him resurrect his career with an outstanding season at Napier City Rovers; a purple patch in Adelaide was curtailed by niggling injury; a solid introduction to English League Football at Mansfield came to an abrupt halt as the club imploded; while a superb debut All Whites goal against Dunfermline was not enough to earn him a spot in the 2002 Oceania Nations Cup squad.
Many others would have packed it in, or accepted that as their lot in life. But Smeltz isn�t many others. Grabbing his �last chance� in Wrexham with both hands, he simultaneously delivered one of New Zealand�s best international results of modern times and secured an opportunity at club level from which he has produced the best form of his entire career.
And in that sense he is not alone. For as well as sharing an international and club history with several of his team mates tonight, he also shares the collective frustrations that people like Brown, Sigmund and Mulligan have endured during their careers. And each of them, like Smeltz, has cast that aside to step into the international spotlight and push their claims for a trip to the Confederations Cup - and whatever the future beyond that may hold.

If Smeltz continues his purple patch tonight, and writes himself into the record books alongside Keith Nelson, he may trace his success back to those debut strikes in Noumea seven years ago. Perhaps those guys who celebrated alongside him back then will share that thought at full time tonight. But whether that campaign figures consciously in their thinking or not, the fact remains that they have the chance over the next twelve months to reach heights they would only have dreamed of back then.

And it starts tonight, with a clinical and convincing victory for the faithful to enjoy. So enjoy�

How's my driving? - Whine here

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Weather up here is absolutely sh*thouse at the moment. Hope it clears up before tonight or it could, literally, put a damper on getting a decent walk-up crowd in

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Can you actually get a walk-up crowd at the North Harbour stadium?
Shouldn't it be drive-up/bus-up crowd?
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Jag wrote:

Weather up here is absolutely sh*thouse at the moment. Hope it clears up before tonight or it could, literally, put a damper on getting a decent walk-up crowd in

 
beautiful day in Wellington, should be moved down here, walkup crowd dead easy, heard there were only 500 presold tickets. I hope NZF are looking at that and wondering if the 5th place Asian team will attract more.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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el grapadura wrote:
Can you actually get a walk-up crowd at the North Harbour stadium?
Shouldn't it be drive-up/bus-up crowd?
 

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Gaaaaaaaaaahhhh! I can't make the game!

Not happy
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From Radio Sport website

"There are a couple of changes to the All Whites side for the match, which is a dead rubber with New Zealand having already qualified for the playoff against the fifth placed Asian side after the victory in Noumea at the weekend. Goalkeeper Mark Paston, as well as midfielders Tim Brown and Chris James have been called back into the starting line-up. Glen Moss, Jeremy Brockie and Allan Pearce all drop to the bench.

Coach Ricki Herbert says with the pressure off qualifying, they want to trial a few different options."

 From Radio Sport website
 
>>>The benefit of Ricki coaching both teams...Mark Paston & Brown gets some game time which is great for the Phoenix
 
Brewer2008-09-10 14:36:15
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or possibly a central midfield three of Oughton, Elliott and Brown, with James playing just behind Smith and Smeltz?  Looking for a big performance from James, as I thought the midfield was woefully short of creativity on Saturday.
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apparently the ghost of paul smalley has emerged to convince ricki to play 433 with smith on the left and james playing just off smeltzer.
 
personally, i'm in favour of ricki deploying whatever formation is best to improve our cohesion looking forward.
 
hopefully we see an improved performance and at least some signs that we are a good side which executes well and has a plan.

360footballnews.com

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ok I still have no-one to go to the game with :( Be nice to the guy by himself at the ale house in an All Whites top
 
p.s. I have friends honest
joachim2008-09-10 16:50:13
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Heard on the radio that if the crowd numbers aren't there then Welly will have a good crack at the Asian qualifers, sorry Aux supporters but please don't go!!!!

Should be good seeing some different combinations, hopefully the pitch won't get to soiled before the game... Pushing Oughton wide will be good to see, be interesting to see the quality of service he can provide, especially since Brockie had a fairly good crack at it last time.
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brumbys wrote:
Heard on the radio that if the crowd numbers aren't there then Welly will have a good crack at the Asian qualifers, sorry Aux supporters but please don't go!!!!
 
Marketing via scare tactics imo
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Come on Auckland weather! Stay rubbish!

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Is this match avaiable on any websites?
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Anyone heading down to 4kings to watch?

www.kiwifromthecouch.blogspot.com

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its going to be a blow-out crowd tonight. I can sense it. Poor coverage in the Herald.
 
Hello play-off at the Ring next year

Founder

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theprof wrote:
Jag wrote:

Weather up here is absolutely sh*thouse at the moment. Hope it clears up before tonight or it could, literally, put a damper on getting a decent walk-up crowd in


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beautiful day in Wellington, should be moved down here, walkup crowd dead easy, heard there were only 500 presold tickets. I hope NZF are looking at that and wondering if the 5th place Asian team will attract more.


Lets just keep this afternoons weather change quiet then...
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Anyone know of any radio stations or online sources covering this match for those of us overseas?
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http://www.radiosport.co.nz/listenlive/
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Corkster wrote:
http://www.radiosport.co.nz/listenlive/
 
Nice, thanks!
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theirs a good crowd at the game

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Really? The radio said it was about 2000 strong?
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approximation?
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How come they're in Black again?

Don't NC have an away strip?





E + R + O

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We're in the away kit again for some reason... not that it makes much difference, but a bit odd?

1'- New Caledonia will begin the match attacking the goal from left to right in front of the main stand here at North Harbour Stadium sporting their grey shirts with red shorts and socks.

New Zealand will use their away strip, an unfamiliar all black kit

 

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Pressurise... FFS Elrick.  How hard is it to master English ?

We're in Black as a tribute to Charlie Dempsey.

Be interesting to see what the crowd is officially... 2.5-3k from what I can see.
Hard News2008-09-10 19:44:24

How's my driving? - Whine here

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Man these radio commentators should talk about the game and tell us whats going on. It's not like TV where we can see and they can talk about whatever they like. They have mentioned about five players so far... jeez!
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jamesnz wrote:
Man these radio commentators should talk about the game and tell us whats going on. It's not like TV where we can see and they can talk about whatever they like. They have mentioned about five players so far... jeez!


yep commentators rubbish so far..now trying to book themselves in to future jobs while not doing current job!
martinb2008-09-10 19:45:27


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martinb wrote:
jamesnz wrote:
Man these radio commentators should talk about the game and tell us whats going on. It's not like TV where we can see and they can talk about whatever they like. They have mentioned about five players so far... jeez!


yep commentators rubbish so far..now trying to book themselves in to future jobs while not doing current job!

I won't bother trying to tune in then... Oceania site is more reliable than the other night so far... Sounds as though it's about the same amount of detail as Radio Sport

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ALMOST!! go smeltz
 
early signs are a crap ref again
tigers2008-09-10 19:48:01
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Anyone know where referee Hauata's from?
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Keeper palms a ball to Smeltz who is so surprised he takes a snap shot straight back at the keeper.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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He's not the same guy who refereed the Vanuatu game is he? I have a vague recolection he was Tahitian...
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Hard News wrote:


We're in Black as a tribute to Charlie Dempsey.



Wouldn't that be the white armbands and the mins silence?


Whats the go with James? Looks good! (as he lays on a good cross for an offside Smeltz)

SurgeQld2008-09-10 19:51:35
E + R + O

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nice one. I got radio coverage over the net on radiosport. guess there is no coverage rights issues listening in the UK... for once.

If we build it, they will come...

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