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China/Japan Squad Discussion

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Doloras wrote:
Rodi Rojas was quoted as having said in a radio interview that Marco wouldn't be playing any "Mickey Mouse friendlies in China and Japan", but I've never seen an attribution for that quote.
 
Probably meant "Hello Kitty" or "Doraemon" rather than "Mickey Mouse".
 
 

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bopman wrote:
I would question taking both Elliot and Vicelich. Take one of them as a senior elder for the squad but Ricki knows what they offer so you don't need both of them.
 
Leaves us pretty light in midfield though.

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One of them plus Brown, McGlinchey and Plodder. 
 
Surely you wouldn't have both of them on the park at the same time in these games?
 
By picking Fitzgerald and Rowe would it suggest a change in formation away from the back 3? 
bopman2011-03-09 12:03:06

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2ndBest wrote:

New Zealand tour of China and Japan
China v New Zealand
Wuhan Sports Centre Stadium
Wuhan, China
Friday 25 March
Kickoff: 19.30 (00:30 Mar 26 NZT)

Japan v New Zealand
National Stadium
Tokyo, Japan
Tuesday March 29, 2011
Kickoff: 19:20 (23:20 NZT)

 
12:30 am Saturday morning for the Wuhan match - likely to be on at Four Kings?
 

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What sort of a player is Craig Henderson? Does he play central? Atacking, defensive? To be honest and this sounds terrible but I'm pretty happy plodder won't be going. IMO McGlinchy should be starting ahead of all of them.
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bopman wrote:
One of them plus Brown, McGlinchey and Plodder.�
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Surely you wouldn't have both of them on the park at the same time in these games?

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By picking�Fitzgerald and Rowe would it suggest a change in formation away from the back 3?�


Christie is injured. They named an extended squad, which will have five U-20 players added, so they can keep the same squad throughout the year. Which is why the injured guys were also named. I don't think it suggests a change in formation, it's just a matter of having players in positions we lack depth. Vicelich may not make it, but he was great at the world cup. Elliott has been one of the top AW in the past year. Has to be there.
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Is there anyone 'of note' who has missed selection?


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Dougie Rydal wrote:
Is there anyone 'of note' who has missed selection?


No.
Steven Old, Dan Keat, James Musa, Sean Lovemore, Jacob Spoonley were all unlikely at best.
Throw in the retired duo of Andy Barron and James Bannatyne. So no-one of 'note'. remember Christie, Bertos and Paston are injured.Luis Garcia2011-03-09 12:16:25
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Stefan Marinovic
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Dougie Rydal wrote:
Is there anyone 'of note' who has missed selection?


Only a certain WYNYRS-alumnus goalkeeping prodigy from the bench in the German third divison!!!

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Gotta feel for Dan Keat. Surely that is a mistake???


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Us goalkeepers think alike huh Doloras?
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tripvincent wrote:
Gotta feel for Dan Keat. Surely that is a mistake???

Pretty sure he is injured.
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2ndBest wrote:

tripvincent wrote:
Gotta feel for Dan Keat. Surely that is a mistake???
Pretty sure he is injured.


Pretty sure Paston, Christie and Bertos are too.


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Luke Rowe Birmingham City, never heard if him.   What's his form?
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edward l wrote:
Luke Rowe Birmingham City, never heard if him.   What's his form?


He's an academy player. Right-back. Apparently in NZ U-20s
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tripvincent wrote:
Gotta feel for Dan Keat. Surely that is a mistake???


Maybe they feel it is better for him to stay with the Galaxy than disrupt that at this stage?

Yeh was looking for his name with our aging midfield...


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bad luck for stefan but well done to jake

I am pleaed to see that herbert is going with youth and also looking at the bigger picture - the olympic team
 
great selection of rowe and fitzgerald (positions where we need depth and someone comin through)

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who ever was the munter who changed my signature can you change it back or I will sue you

Auckland will rise once more

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Think ability, and not luck, had more to do with it.
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Excited by this squad, now when team selection happens... prepare for complaining.

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Luis Garcia wrote:
edward l wrote:
Luke Rowe Birmingham City, never heard if him.   What's his form?


He's an academy player. Right-back. Apparently in NZ U-20s


Left. Right back still a problem.

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I agree with hardnews on this one
 
One or both should have gone
 
I dont really see the logic in taking boxall (where we have lots of centrebacks) and not taking Keat

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Thank god we have locked Marco in to play for NZ.  Take that Chile.
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AucklandPhoenix wrote:
who ever was the munter who changed my signature can you change it back or I will sue you
 
It wasn't me, but I'm curious.  Sue him/her for what?

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2ndBest wrote:
Thank god we have locked Marco in to play for NZ.  Take that Chile.

What was the chance though, of him playing for Chile, I never saw it as a real threat.
Chile have loads of players with agility and technical ability already under their noses.

Anyone want to have a stab at a line-up for China game? Or who of the 8 will be cut to make the 22
linds22011-03-09 13:28:19

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martinb wrote:
tripvincent wrote:
Gotta feel for Dan Keat. Surely that is a mistake???


Maybe they feel it is better for him to stay with the Galaxy than disrupt that at this stage?

Yeh was looking for his name with our aging midfield...
 
maybe galaxy wouldn't release him?
 
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So does this mean Neil Emblen is being groomed for the Olympic team job.
 
Wouldn't be a bad shout.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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linds2 wrote:
Excited by this squad, now when team selection happens... prepare for complaining.
 
+1
 
now who ain't going to make the 22?
 
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linds2 wrote:


2ndBest wrote:
Thank god we have locked Marco in to play for NZ.� Take that Chile.
What was the chance though, of him playing for Chile, I never saw it as a real threat.Chile have loads of players with agility and technical ability already under their noses.Anyone want to have a stab at a line-up for China game? Or who of the 8 will be cut to make the 22


You've missed 2B's snipe at another member of this forum - the point is these friendlies don't lock Marco in for the All Whites.
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el grapadura wrote:
linds2 wrote:


2ndBest wrote:
Thank god we have locked Marco in to play for NZ.  Take that Chile.
What was the chance though, of him playing for Chile, I never saw it as a real threat.Chile have loads of players with agility and technical ability already under their noses.Anyone want to have a stab at a line-up for China game? Or who of the 8 will be cut to make the 22


You've missed 2B's snipe at another member of this forum - the point is these friendlies don't lock Marco in for the All Whites.


Oh I see

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I am assuming this first group of players will be in the 22
Glen MOSS (Gold Coast United, Australia � 16/0)
Jake GLEESON (Portland Timbers, USA � 0/0)
Andrew BOYENS (Chivas, USA � 16/0)
Tony LOCHHEAD (Wellington Phoenix � 33/0)
Ryan NELSEN (Blackburn Rovers, ENG � 45/9)
Winston REID (West Ham, ENG � 8/1)
Ben SIGMUND (Wellington Phoenix � 16/1)
Tommy SMITH (Ipswich Town, ENG � 7/0)
Jeremy BROCKIE (Newcastle Jets, AUS � 21/0)
Tim BROWN (Wellington Phoenix � 27/0)
Aaron CLAPHAM (Canterbury United � 2/0)
Simon ELLIOTT (Chivas, USA � 68/8)
Michael MCGLINCHEY (Central Coast Mariners, AUS � 7/0)
Marco ROJAS (Wellington Phoenix � 0/0)
Ivan VICELICH (Auckland City � 71/7)
Kosta BARBAROUSES (Brisbane Roar, AUS � 1/0)
Rory FALLON (Plymouth Argyle, ENG � 11/3)
Chris KILLEN (Shenzhen Ruby, CHN � 36/18)
Shane SMELTZ (Gold Coast United, AUS � 34/18)
Chris WOOD (West Bromwich Albion, ENG � 14/1)
 
Which only leave room for 2 more which I am guessing will be
Michael FITZGERALD (Albirex Niigata, JAP � 0/0)
Craig HENDERSON (Mjallby, SWE � 0/0)
 
On the basis
Michael  BOXALL (Vancouver Whitecaps, CAN � 0/0) (too many other more accomplished centre backs)
Luke ROWE (Birmingham City, ENG � 0/0) (Lochead will be ahead and Smith is also likely to be used at left back)
Jeremy CHRISTIE (Tampa Bay, USA � 26/1) (injured)
Cole PEVERLEY (Charleston Battery, USA � 1/0) (Ricki knows him and he isn't good enough to demand selection)
David MULLIGAN (Auckland City � 25/3) (Ricki knows him and he isn't good enough to demand selection, if henderson isn't good enough then Mulligan would probably be next in)
Kris BRIGHT (Budapest Honv�d, HUN � 4/1) (far too many more accomplished forwards)
Mark PASTON (Wellington Phoenix � 28/0)  (injured)
Leo BERTOS (Wellington Phoenix � 39/0) (injured)
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Smithy wrote:
So does this mean Neil Emblen is being groomed for the Olympic team job.
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Wouldn't be a bad shout.


That was my thought as well, seeing him on the list. I would be pretty happy with that.
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Smithy wrote:
AucklandPhoenix wrote:
who ever was the munter who changed my signature can you change it back or I will sue you

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It wasn't me, but I'm curious.� Sue him/her for what?


Even if successful, what would the damages be?
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Yeah, yeah, the judge would send it back for mediation first, so even if you "won" then you split the costs....
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What worries me is Japan at number 17.
I have seen them play and they really try hard.
So much so, they almost trip themselves up.
If we concentrated on possession, I suspect that could be their undoing.
Not sure where mainland China is at with their footie.
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rjmiller wrote:
I am assuming this first group of players will be in the 22
Glen MOSS (Gold Coast United, Australia � 16/0)
Jake GLEESON (Portland Timbers, USA � 0/0)
Andrew BOYENS (Chivas, USA � 16/0)
Tony LOCHHEAD (Wellington Phoenix � 33/0)
Ryan NELSEN (Blackburn Rovers, ENG � 45/9)
Winston REID (West Ham, ENG � 8/1)
Ben SIGMUND (Wellington Phoenix � 16/1)
Tommy SMITH (Ipswich Town, ENG � 7/0)
Jeremy BROCKIE (Newcastle Jets, AUS � 21/0)
Tim BROWN (Wellington Phoenix � 27/0)
Aaron CLAPHAM (Canterbury United � 2/0)
Simon ELLIOTT (Chivas, USA � 68/8)
Michael MCGLINCHEY (Central Coast Mariners, AUS � 7/0)
Marco ROJAS (Wellington Phoenix � 0/0)
Ivan VICELICH (Auckland City � 71/7)
Kosta BARBAROUSES (Brisbane Roar, AUS � 1/0)
Rory FALLON (Plymouth Argyle, ENG � 11/3)
Chris KILLEN (Shenzhen Ruby, CHN � 36/18)
Shane SMELTZ (Gold Coast United, AUS � 34/18)
Chris WOOD (West Bromwich Albion, ENG � 14/1)
 
Which only leave room for 2 more which I am guessing will be
Michael FITZGERALD (Albirex Niigata, JAP � 0/0)
Craig HENDERSON (Mjallby, SWE � 0/0)
 
On the basis
Michael  BOXALL (Vancouver Whitecaps, CAN � 0/0) (too many other more accomplished centre backs)
Luke ROWE (Birmingham City, ENG � 0/0) (Lochead will be ahead and Smith is also likely to be used at left back)
Jeremy CHRISTIE (Tampa Bay, USA � 26/1) (injured)
Cole PEVERLEY (Charleston Battery, USA � 1/0) (Ricki knows him and he isn't good enough to demand selection)
David MULLIGAN (Auckland City � 25/3) (Ricki knows him and he isn't good enough to demand selection, if henderson isn't good enough then Mulligan would probably be next in)
Kris BRIGHT (Budapest Honv�d, HUN � 4/1) (far too many more accomplished forwards)
Mark PASTON (Wellington Phoenix � 28/0)  (injured)
Leo BERTOS (Wellington Phoenix � 39/0) (injured)
I have to agree with this: I think that peverley would be chosen ahead of clapham because there are only 2 defensive midfielders. Also I am really surprised that Keat hasn'y been selected even if he is back from injury. At least he has a contract with la galaxy which is not the case of Boxall..
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Must admit, Samurai Blue is quite a cool name for a footie team.
Which brings us to colours.  They have a blue home kit, we sometimes play in blue away.
Are we going to switch to black or stick with white.
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edward l wrote:
What worries me is Japan at number 17.
I have seen them play and they really try hard.

So much so, they almost trip themselves up.

If we concentrated on possession, I suspect that could be their undoing.

Not sure where mainland China is at with their footie.


That's hardly the strength of any All White team, is it?

I reckon if you had a drinking game along the lines of 'every time the AWs string three passes together, have a double-shot of absinthe' no-one would be drunk by the end of the 90 minutes.
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Dougie Rydal wrote:
Is there anyone 'of note' who has missed selection?

Indian Premier League scoring machine Kayne Vincent?
(I'm not being completely serious here)
 
Also, whatever happened to Jack Pelter post-Sunderland?


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