New Zealand Men's U-20s

oh if only

You can only grind your teeth for so long before you have to start telling people to Fuck Off for being ignorant cocks.

You guys make me laugh... They must be doing something right to get selected in the under20s, Phoenix, passed age group sides etc etc

Tad naive mate. People still play favourites. The best kids/young players arent always selected. Politics etc. It has improved in recent years years with the advent of youth league etc

I remember being a part of a selection team which beat the 1999 under 17 side 4-0 prior to the world cup and we were their age and not "good enough"

Its more to do with the way the coaches want to play.. like last time chettleburgh or however you spell his name missed out because he didnt fit the style of play

What did he say, I actually like to pass the ball and have possession, not simply kick it to the other team and chase.

Not a fan of Milicich and can see us playing quite a direct style of football. I hope not, but wouldn't be surprised. Watson of top and a pacy striker off him. Similar to Woods and Barbarouses I guess.

I liked Edge for the u17's. Thought he was one of the stand out players. Good touch and pass and seemed to look like he belonged which a few others did not. Would be disappointed if he's fallen away.

I was secretly hoping to see the new Rufers name there... not that i have ever seen him play. But someone wrote in the paper that he's an excitment machine, which sounds so un NZ its a good enoughedorsement for me : )

Can't see players like Yanomoto coming in after qualifiers. If he's vailable now, pick him now. The players to miss out will be replaced by young guys overseas or maybe a U17 kid who does well aka Payne.

If they played like that mate they would of gotten killed 5-6 nil. Milicich plays the way he does to combat not getting beaten so badly. hence why they drew 1 all with Uruguay and Cameroon and lost 2 nil to the finalist Portugual 

Yeah rufer could come through indeed. Milicich is a bit limited. 2011 side was awfully frustrating to watch. Ah well

He was the only under20 coach to get a point at the world cup

No doubt but argh that uruguay game. Shoulda woulda coulda

Should make a play for mitch cooper. Wasnt part of australias afc under 19 side

Trip, that is a silly comment, you slag the selectors for not picking a local player that you watch regularly and then offer an alternative of an Aussie who has missed out on selection but you haven't seen play.

Joel will impress, good kid who loves to play. In some camps Joel was rated a better player than Cam, Cam made the u17s and Joel missed out, sometimes you just need a bit if luck.

They need Watson to mix it with the big island boys. He will need to be a platform to play off.

Joel Stevens looks decent when Ive seen him.

Was Steven Carmicheal not available? Also David Browne could have been an inclusion. Would be good off the bench

JV, you are coming across like you dont shit at all...

Thanks. Promising talent, hopefully he can go places.

Right I've had enough of both of you.

Consider this a warning JV. No need to talk to people like this. Tripvincent - that goes for you too.

Who will be captain??

I saw Cooper play for Gold Coast United and I saw him in Mexico as well. Haven't obv seen him with Jets Youth this season but he has ties to NZ and we're light in MF so why not. I'd previously discounted him due to him playing for Australia but hey.

Carmichaels around he's just in the queue. Brownes a good wee player

Adams or Howieson

Browne is from PNG

indeed but how longs he been here?

2 years. Im pretty sure hes in the PNG under20s

aight

David Browne has been capped at age group international level by Papua New Guinea already.

Also, the chances of David being capped by the All Whites sometime in the future may be compromised by the fact that when he turned out for Papua New Guinea U-17, he wasn't eligible for New Zealand selection as a dual national.

Of course, as we've seen before, FIFA eligibility regulations change every now and then over time, so I wouldn't rule out anything in the long run.

As it stands, he's not eligible for New Zealand, as far as I am aware.

Aight. 

ha!

Well I hope he sticks with PNG anyway. Don't like us pinching the top Island players.

Some good chat in here. There are a couple of Wellington boys who I had hoped would be in the mix, but they haven't been playing ASBP so I guess that rules them out.

Some might say that's because the Phoenix Academy kids were shoehorned into Team Welly at the expense of other (better?) local kids. But I couldn't possibly comment. Some of them maybe owe Gareth Morgan a thank you card.

Football's a funny old game. You get picked for one thing, meaning you can't be left out of the next thing. Etc and so on.

 Pity we don't have the funds to organise an alternate U20 side and put them up against team Milicich.

Who'd you have in their news?

 Rory Turner ;-)

Watson boyd fenton basalaj are auto picks surely. Only solomons & gulley a tad contencious? Who were you hoping for?

Boom!

Suggestions?

The team is fine, all the kids(not boyd,fenton or overseas players) that are being spoken about went to camp and had their chance.

Watson, Biss, Gulley, Solomons and Rory Turner all had equal opportunity to show what they can do.

Some performed some didnt.

Its so like nzf to base selection around a 'camp' id like to think its based on form and on a season than said 'camp'