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Official 2010 Fever Tour to SAfrica

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Of course I'm not naive enough to that you can ever completely eradicate racism, thus I used the phrase "much of the problem."

I also don't quite understand where you got the idea that I thought Racism was confined to white people or what relevance that has to South African situation for that matter?  Mr_Incredible2010-07-08 21:06:02
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liverpoolfan1 wrote:
I also lost count of the number of times I saw a white guy driving a ute with black guys sitting in the tray

This.  Smithy has a photo of a twin cab with 3 spare seats while a handful of black guys sitting in a cage on the back of the ute.
Like JD I only ever saw one white person working in a service type job. And she was about 16.
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Mr_Incredible wrote:
One of the things I'm curious about (particularly after watching the loltastic piece the daily show did, and because I'm reading "More than a game" which is a book about the FA set up on Robben Island) is were the racial issues of the past obvious at any stage?


Funnily enough I just read a blog entry about it a couple days ago, written by a member of the Canadian broadcast team for the WC. He talks with a former Robben Island inmate who was part of the football scene there. Good read, might be worth checking out

http://good4sports.wordpress.com/2010/07/06/soccer-behind-bars/
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Mr_Incredible wrote:

Of course I'm not naive enough to that you can ever completely eradicate racism, thus I used the phrase "much of the problem."I also don't quite understand where you got the idea that I thought Racism was confined to white people or what relevance that has to South African situation for that matter?�

I was just making a point. The blacks in SA are made up of many tribes and for hundreds of years they have not really liked esch other. In fact they don't speak the same language.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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Mr_Incredible wrote:
Of course I'm not naive enough to that you can ever completely eradicate racism, thus I used the phrase "much of the problem."

I also don't quite understand where you got the idea that I thought Racism was confined to white people or what relevance that has to South African situation for that matter? 
 
Without getting into too much detail, I think one of the biggest issues is that black or white, your chances in life are pretty much defined by the family you are born into.  In most cases, white people are wealthy and occupy the top of society so that will perpetuate and the same for african.  If your family has influence you will be favoured, if they don't you don't have much of a shot.  That's not really an issue of racism but you would say that it is a hangover from apartheid.  Basically it is a massive problem

Normo's coming home

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I met a young white guy (early-20s?) in SA who was quite resentful towards the law which says if both job applicants are equal, and one is white, the other black; then you must hire the black person.
Also that black ownership is required in companies (I'm not sure of the exact details of this)

His point was that the law was only supposed to be for five-eight years after the end of apartheid.
He said there has now been 18 years since it, so the generation since will not be institutionally disadvantaged (by worse schooling, etc) therfore the law should be rescinded.
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so you were talking politics whilst everyone else was getting hammered?

Founder

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Feverish wrote:
so you were talking politics whilst everyone else was getting hammered?


He was pretty god damned hammered at the Polokwane game.

"Sharing rewards the weak"- Steven Colbert

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Traitor wrote:
 


He was pretty god damned hammered at the Polokwane game.

Weren't we all? I lost the bus. Probly the most scared I felt the whole trip

End of an era.  Vinnie - It's over.

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I <3 Nix wrote:
Traitor wrote:
�He was pretty god damned hammered at the Polokwane game.


Weren't we all? I lost the bus. Probly the most scared I felt the whole trip


Didnt know it was a competition.
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tomrewi wrote:
I <3 Nix wrote:
Traitor wrote:
 He was pretty god damned hammered at the Polokwane game.


Weren't we all? I lost the bus. Probly the most scared I felt the whole trip


Didnt know it was a competition.
I'd rather friendly competition than all the hating that goes on here

End of an era.  Vinnie - It's over.

If anyone cares for my inane babbling follow @iluvnix17 on the Twitter.

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I <3 Nix wrote:
tomrewi wrote:
I <3 Nix wrote:
Traitor wrote:
�He was pretty god damned hammered at the Polokwane game.


Weren't we all? I lost the bus. Probly the most scared I felt the whole trip
Didnt know it was a competition.


I'd rather friendly competition than all the hating that goes on here


Did you end up catching the Porcelain Bus?

"Sharing rewards the weak"- Steven Colbert

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Anybody know where I can get hold of a big Phoenix Flag from?  And don't say Ryos or the Phoenix shop cause they don't have them.
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Try Football Central in Cuba mall.  BTW phoenix questions do in the Phoenix forum.
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Has anyone seen the Wolfman with Benicio Tel Toro?  I thought it was ok, but a bit long.

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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Can we please have another World Cup tour next year. Don't care where to or when but I need another beer/football fueled holiday. I could possibly hold out until Brazil confeds.

Its no longer a problem.

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Toffeeman wrote:
Can we please have another World Cup tour next year. Don't care where to or when but I need another beer/football fueled holiday. I could possibly hold out until Brazil confeds.
Better yet we could organise to meet at the Backbencher prior to a nix game and organise a Bus, get a local taxi driver that looks like John (Our SA bus driver) to drive it cos it would take him 2-3 hours to negotiate how to get to the stadium, tell people we have FIFA accreditation, get dropped off at platform 9 cos they wont accept our accreditation. We know greeny would probably wanna throw up down the side of the bus, smithy has probably got some rib shack red wine left, we could sit back and watch Trotter get slapped by Hone, sing a few songs and will be just like we never left.
 
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make sure the bus has a dodgy stereo so I need to hook up an ipod using three cables and four adapters

Founder

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gerry atrix wrote:
Toffeeman wrote:
Can we please have another World Cup tour next year. Don't care where to or when but I need another beer/football fueled holiday. I could possibly hold out until Brazil confeds.
Better yet we could organise to meet at the Backbencher prior to a nix game and organise a Bus, get a local taxi driver that looks like John (Our SA bus driver) to drive it cos it would take him 2-3 hours to negotiate how to get to the stadium, tell people we have FIFA accreditation, get dropped off at platform 9 cos they wont accept our accreditation. We know greeny would probably wanna throw up down the side of the bus, smithy has probably got some rib shack red wine left, we could sit back and watch Trotter get slapped by Hone, sing a few songs and will be just like we never left.
 
that's a freakin fabulous idea!!!
Noticing Trotter and Hone got capital letters. Are Greeny and Smithy not worthy?

End of an era.  Vinnie - It's over.

If anyone cares for my inane babbling follow @iluvnix17 on the Twitter.

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Maybe could also arrange for Red Badge to push everyone out of the stadium after the match?

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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what's happened to Smithy, didn't he come back from SA?
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Toffeeman wrote:
Can we please have another World Cup tour next year. Don't care where to or when but I need another beer/football fueled holiday. I could possibly hold out until Brazil confeds.


We could hold it in Wellington. It would be a lot cheaper.
(though missing out on the excitement of a foreign country)
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Feverish wrote:
so you were talking politics whilst everyone else was getting hammered?


Nope, was driving in a car at the time; not somewhere I usually like to drink. But anyway:

Let's sit, let's talk - politics goes so good with beer ...

[kudos to whoever recognises that quote!]
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I <3 Nix wrote:
gerry atrix wrote:
Toffeeman wrote:
Can we please have another World Cup tour next year. Don't care where to or when but I need another beer/football fueled holiday. I could possibly hold out until Brazil confeds.
Better yet we could organise to meet at the Backbencher prior to a nix game and organise a Bus, get a local taxi driver that looks like John (Our SA bus driver) to drive it cos it would take him 2-3 hours to negotiate how to get to the stadium, tell people we have FIFA accreditation, get dropped off at platform 9 cos they wont accept our accreditation. We know greeny would probably wanna throw up down the side of the bus, smithy has probably got some rib shack red wine left, we could sit back and watch Trotter get slapped by Hone, sing a few songs and will be just like we never left.
 
that's a freakin fabulous idea!!!
Noticing Trotter and Hone got capital letters. Are Greeny and Smithy not worthy?
Haha no just crap typing on my part ...lol. All we need now is a decent Shabeen....
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Hard News wrote:
Oceanic6 wrote:
what's happened to Smithy, didn't he come back from SA?


He has foresaken forum life for his own sanity...
Looks to me like he has replaced forum life with facebook life?

End of an era.  Vinnie - It's over.

If anyone cares for my inane babbling follow @iluvnix17 on the Twitter.

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Hard News wrote:
No, that was always that sad.
it's intense...I thought I was bad, but i got nothing on Smithy

End of an era.  Vinnie - It's over.

If anyone cares for my inane babbling follow @iluvnix17 on the Twitter.

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Heard 'White Noise' on the radio today...Ahhh the memories

End of an era.  Vinnie - It's over.

If anyone cares for my inane babbling follow @iluvnix17 on the Twitter.

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I <3 Nix wrote:
Heard 'White Noise' on the radio today...Ahhh the memories
Lol, me too. I even sang along like on the bus trips (out of tune and out of time) :-) My 2 1/2 year old said "Daddy, stop singing" :-(

Its no longer a problem.

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Our friend Drunk Ian on the receiving of a belly buster:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z03iNIy11ZU

Its no longer a problem.

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