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Post World Cup Friendies Angst

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terminator_x wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Ard Choille wrote:
I can't see how they can argue about the need for a match in Dorkland based on population.


Well we are the home of NZF for a start.
 
Home is where the heart is though Buffy


Now you're getting cryptic

Three for me, and two for them.

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Are you Jim Kayes?
Are you Jim Kayes?
Are you Jim Kayes in disguise?
Are you Jim Kayes in disguise?
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Buffon II wrote:
Well we are the home of NZF for a start.


Having the NZF based in Dorkland, Does that make more people turn up to an AW match?

Who gives a fk where NZF is based.
Having the NZRFU based in Wellington doesn't make them have rugby tests here.
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But Wellington usually get a rugby test every year. What a retarded statement.

Three for me, and two for them.

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Buffon II wrote:
But Wellington usually get a rugby test every year. What a retarded statement.



And so does Auckland and Christchurch? The three main centers get a rugby test every year. It's because of the amount of games the All Blacks actually play in New Zealand is significantly higher than that of the All Whites.
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Read his post.

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Can�NZF please just allocate this game so it can end??????
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My head is about to explode.
As soon as they announce it the arguing will stop. And the angst will begin.


I think CHCH deserve it more, purely based on how many more chances Aucks have had to prove themselves. I'd rather go to Hamilton or Auckland though.
You know we belong together...

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Dorkland? You want to call us Jaffa's yet?
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Better than Smellington or Christdouche (Yeah, that's the best I could come up with).
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I prefer Village of the Damned.

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Crimechurch is still the best
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this thread is the equivalent of a family going on a holiday to disneyland, and then the kids fighting over who gets top bunk in the hotel.
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Paulinho wrote:
terminator_x wrote:
[Really? Worse than Invercargill? Worse than Palmerston North? Hey, let's all try and get to Gisborne on a Tuesday f**king night. That's clearly a better option than Wellington.
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Hey, at least we have experience of holding All White friendlies in Invercargill.

Fark Palmy, even if we did win.

"Sharing rewards the weak"- Steven Colbert

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Just a question:

The 9000 that turned up to the Tron for the pre-season game recently. Was that beyond expectations?

Hamilton is 1 hour from Auckland right? Did many Aucklanders go to this game?

I know that if the 'Nix were playing 1 hour drive away from Dunedin, even pre-season, even against the Oamaru Old Boys XI, I'd go but hey that's just me. So just wondering if the Tron game drew Aucklanders on the back of the World Cup hype and result?

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ahmad wrote:
Just a question:

The 9000 that turned up to the Tron for the pre-season game recently. Was that beyond expectations?

Hamilton is 1 hour from Auckland right? Did many Aucklanders go to this game?

I know that if the 'Nix were playing 1 hour drive away from Dunedin, even pre-season, even against the Oamaru Old Boys XI, I'd go but hey that's just me. So just wondering if the Tron game drew Aucklanders on the back of the World Cup hype and result?


I'm not the best person to ask. I drove from Thames to Auckland to pick up my brother, only to find he had gone out with his girlfriend. So I talked my dad into joining me (not a hard sell) and we headed down to Hamilton. So I drove for more than 3 hours for the game.

I'm not too sure how many Aucklanders made the trip down, but I'd be surprised if the entire 10,000-odd crowd was from Hamilton. The game was hardly advertised outside of Hamilton though, so probably only staunch fans made the trip.
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ahmad wrote:
Just a question:

The 9000 that turned up to the Tron for the pre-season game recently. Was that beyond expectations?

Hamilton is 1 hour from Auckland right? Did many Aucklanders go to this game?

I know that if the 'Nix were playing 1 hour drive away from Dunedin, even pre-season, even against the Oamaru Old Boys XI, I'd go but hey that's just me. So just wondering if the Tron game drew Aucklanders on the back of the World Cup hype and result?


I didn't go. I had my own football. So did many others.

Three for me, and two for them.

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I have decided to allocate the AW's Honduras game to......
 
 
Saxon Fields, NELSON.
 
 
Smack bang in the middle of the country.
 
 
Thread OVER!!!
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ahmad wrote:
Just a question:

The 9000 that turned up to the Tron for the pre-season game recently. Was that beyond expectations?

Hamilton is 1 hour from Auckland right? Did many Aucklanders go to this game?

I know that if the 'Nix were playing 1 hour drive away from Dunedin, even pre-season, even against the Oamaru Old Boys XI, I'd go but hey that's just me. So just wondering if the Tron game drew Aucklanders on the back of the World Cup hype and result?


Buff makes a good point, but it is in Hamiltons favour aswell, 10,000 showed on a saturday at 2.00pm in football season. I know a number of teams whose opposition refused to postpone so couldn't go, and thats definitely the target market.
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Prob should have been Auckland and ChCh to be absolutely fair...nothing against Welly but you guys did get the Bahrain game and also have the Phoenix...hard to argue that you haven't earned to right to host the Paraguay game though based on your support for football...

Seems NZF are in a bit of a lose-lose position and will end up pi$$ing someone off. Would like to think that the Honduras game will go to Auckland purely based on how many $$ NZF suck out of the junior player base up here in fees.
 
 
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343 - you do realise that $15 has the same value in Auckland compared to the rest of the country.  It's the clubs in Auckland that are taking the piss by charging a large fee for juniors.
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2ndBest wrote:
343 - you do realise that $15 has the same value in Auckland compared to the rest of the country.  It's the clubs in Auckland that are taking the piss by charging a large fee for juniors.
 
Was referring to total amount extracted based on Junior player base in Auckland.
 
Federations also take a cut from fees and you'll find that the pi$$-taking clubs are generally the ones that use a portion of their junior fees to subsidise payment of senior players as opposed to investing in club infrastructure and education...
ThreeFourThree2010-08-13 10:19:11
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Still waiting Steve Kilgalon's article investigating why juniors of a North Shore club pay $100-$120 more than juniors in Wellington.  What a ridiculous article that was.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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I think you'll find the comparison was made to Rugby League fees in Auckland , not the cost of playing football for Juniors in Wellington...
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2ndBest wrote:
343 - you do realise that $15 has the same value in Auckland compared to the rest of the country.  It's the clubs in Auckland that are taking the piss by charging a large fee for juniors.
 
Was referring to total amount extracted based on Junior player base in Auckland.
 
Federations also take a cut from fees and you'll find that the pi$$-taking clubs are generally the ones that use a portion of their junior fees to subsidise payment of senior players as opposed to investing in club infrastructure and education...
agree with most of this.  But your orginal post suggested it was NZF who were taking juniors for a ride.
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I think you'll find the comparison was made to Rugby League fees in Auckland , not the cost of playing football for Juniors in Wellington...
 
Yes, but the angle was how much New Zealand football were ripping kids off which quite clearly wasn't the case once the numbers were published.  A more interesting article would be why they charge the other $145.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Agree with both of you - sorry if original post was a bit vague. 
 
Not saying that $15 is a great deal of money but given the amount of $$ that NZF does get from its Auckland Junior player-base, it would be a nice gesture to allocate an All Whites game here...
 
ThreeFourThree2010-08-13 10:57:08
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Just give it to Auckland to shut them up. Then their footballing destiny is in their own court... if they dont show its their own fault.
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AJ13 wrote:
Just give it to Auckland to shut them up. Then their footballing destiny is in their own court... if they dont show its their own fault.

Part of me is with you there.

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Part of me is too, however I'd like to see both games and if one is in Auckland I'll only be able to make the Wellington one. 
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AJ13 wrote:
Just give it to Auckland to shut them up. Then their footballing destiny is in their own court... if they dont show its their own fault.
 
And it would be nice to think if we do make it a success that the rest of the country will get the chip off their shoulder.
 
Dreams are free though.  
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What is the "contractual obligation" NZF have to North Harbour? Sorry but I still don't think I've heard a clear answer here. Does it mean that they have to play Honduras at North Harbour? Why didn't they play Paraguay there when it was initially mooted that a single game would be played?

Is this just some kind of gentleman's agreement because that doesn't = contractual obligation.

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ahmad wrote:
What is the "contractual obligation" NZF have to North Harbour? Sorry but I still don't think I've heard a clear answer here. Does it mean that they have to play Honduras at North Harbour? Why didn't they play Paraguay there when it was initially mooted that a single game would be played?

Is this just some kind of gentleman's agreement because that doesn't = contractual obligation.


I think it is just for Auckland games.
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Footpaul wrote:

ahmad wrote:
What is the "contractual obligation" NZF have to North Harbour? Sorry but I still don't think I've heard a clear answer here. Does it mean that they have to play Honduras at North Harbour? Why didn't they play Paraguay there when it was initially mooted that a single game would be played?

Is this just some kind of gentleman's agreement because that doesn't = contractual obligation.
I think it is just for Auckland games.

Really? Because if that is so then that's completely a red herring in this discussion??

I'm not saying that if this is the "contractual obligation" that it means the game should be in Christchurch - I'm just saying that if this is all the "obligation" is then it should not enter the equation in terms of where to hold it (except in terms of how many seats the stadium at NH would hold).

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NZF have booked rooms at a large Christchurch hotel around the time of the Honduras game..
 
I wonder why that is??
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Can you confirm this?

Three for me, and two for them.

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NZF have booked rooms at a large Christchurch hotel around the time of the Honduras game..
 
I wonder why that is??


Great news for chch fans if true...
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
NZF have booked rooms at a large Christchurch hotel around the time of the Honduras game..
 
I wonder why that is??


Sauce?
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Doesn't necessarily mean anything.

Maybe they have also made reservations in Auckland just so they aren't caught out after they make a decision?

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I would like to see Moss start in atleast one of the games.
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