Vs Mexico 2nd Leg Wed 20th 7:00pm SS1

All Whites XI (Heard on Radio)

Moss

Roux - Durante - Smith(c) - Tuiloma

Rojas - McGlinchey - James - Barbarouses

Brockie - Smeltz

Attack! Attack! Attack!

Surprised Siggy is not starting. 

Tora, Tora, Tora

Good squad. Would like to see Henderson and/or Clapham get some game time too.

Yes! Love the starting line up! 

Regardless of the result it will be great to see some attacking football in NZ against a top ranked side.

COYAW!!!!!

Flying in to Wellington good and early, see you at the Ave!

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I thought literally it meant Tiger, Tiger, Tiger - but was code word for attack, attack attack, anyways, hoping to see loads of goals tomorrow night!

i like the line up and personally would have liked to have seen a similar shape in mexico bar for a couple personal changes as I think this system better reflects the squad we have now.

As mention earlier, with some of the other young NZ players around at the moment this is beginning to look like a nice team for the future.

Only down side is, we wont have any money to organise internationals for them after this.

Like this lineup and similar to the one I called for in the first leg. Only I would have played Wood instead of Brockie and replaced Smeltz at half time with Fallon. As it is Brockie should only get half a game at best, he's not good enough and I'd prefer Fallon in his place. The reason we didn't go for this at the Azteca is down to Herbert's innate fear and conservatism. Mind there were also a number on this forum saying we must go for old experience legs over youth and we ended up being torn apart.

If this lineup pulls off a better result than the Azteca then Herbert should walk into the night and not look back - please.

Fuck it,who cares if we are staring defeat in the eye.Give it death boys.COYAW  (size 1000 font)

You mean you're predicting worse than the 5-1 thrashing at the Azteca? I see your reasoning as Ricki's desperate to shift the blame but I really don't think this younger attacking lineup will fare worse than Dad's Army at the Azteca. Even if we do we're bloodying new talent. I fancy a 2-2 draw.

'Bloodying new talent'

Another 5-1 would do that ;)

I bet he hangs on every word JV. I do wonder if behind the scenes pressure has forced Ricki's hand. This is not his natural team.

I'd rather lose 5-1 with this new lineup as they'll learn from it. Throwing on players whose careers were over does little moving forward.

In light of this would prefer Siggy to Durante who is not of international standard.

I remember reading in 1969, Brazil were having a few poor performances and a journalist was always getting stuck into them...so eventually the Brazilian Football Federation gave him the coaching job for Brazil!  He turned it around, brought in many of the players which eventually won the 1970 world cup...so ya never know, someone on the forum here might have a chance :)

menstruating new talent

Honduras. You're right. He was.

He wants to play football not hoofball.

I think its highly unlikely we can come back from the 1-5 and qualify, so is the team selection part of RH's re-application for the AWs job?

Wrong thread? But good point. If we go down with all guns blazing, he'll have shown he's able to reinvent the wheel. So maybe he'll next be seen sporting a grin and a blond mohawk and we'll be hearing he's both the public and the NZF favourite among the next applicants

If the New Zealand All Whites needed a reminded that 
Miracles can happen in sport, they only need to look at 
the USA Ice Hockey team that beat the mighty Russians 
for the Gold Medal in 1980.

What the All Whites need though is beyond a miracle, 
if they were too beat Mexico 4-0 and qualify for the 
world cup, nothing in our sporting history would come 
close, I would say it would go down as the biggest 
sporting upset THE WORLD has ever seen or will seen.

To qualify for Brazil before the first leg would've been a 
massive upset, perhaps in the top ten sporting upsets of 
all time.

To win the second leg 4-0 and qualify, would be the biggest 
thing that has ever happen in the history of sport.

That is why it won't happen.

Reality rules over the dreamers.

At around 930pm Wednesday night, kiwis wont be 
jumping for joy, we wont be setting trends on twitter, 
we wont be txting family and friends around the world, 
about how the All Whites did it.

We will be very proud, that we put up a better effort, we 
will talk about the future of NZ Football and who should 
lead us, but this will be no miracle on ice.

Let the 37 thousand kiwis have fun, let us sing and chant, 
let us admire the Mexicans, let there be talk before the 
match that IF we get a early GOAL, things could go our 
way, but deep down know, it's just too big of a hill to 
climb.

We're not going to Brazil, a Miracle on Ice is just that, 
a Miracle that only happens once in History.

But that's okay, as long as we play like a football 
team should.

Here's hoping that we do.

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We may have, secretly. According to some Mexican media reports that suggest their Federation in league with their powerful TV networks paid the All Whites off to get that result - actually that would explain some of Herbert's strange selections such as Christie and the way we sat back and "prepared our anus."  They could easily afford to pay us more than we would have got for qualifying because they stood to lose hundreds of millions of dollars.

If NZ Football mysteriously come by some money to finance internationals & programs over the next few years, you'll know where it's coming from.

I think it's far-fetched and Herbert was just incompetent. Mexico is so corrupt, conspiracy theories are always flying around and their fans are very disillusioned with their federation, so they believe them capable of anything.

But anything is possible...

This report from a Mexican paper suggests the President, who has shares in media giant Televisa and so stands to lose a lot of pesos if Mexico don't qualify, and Televisa, may have been involved in paying NZ off:

http://www.jornada.unam.mx/2013/11/17/opinion/008a1pol

"A photograph of false euphoria of Enrique Peña Nieto, his wife and close to the triumph of the national team against New Zealand has a whiff of the typical corrupt arrangements that usually characterize football. If something is held in the tested image, rather than the victory of a mediocre selection, but the relief that both invested in Televisa broadcasting rights of the World Cup....

If Pena Nieto bought the election that brought him to the Presidency, if the Treasury Department bought its expenditure budget for 2014 with prices ranging between 10 and 24 million pesos per member, and the big oil lobbyists buy at the price is feathers and consciences in order to approve your energy reform , why not Televisa would buy a football match that for the selection of New Zealand meant absolutely nothing?"

Maybe Brockie doesn't travel well. He's a strange one, I haven't been impressed with what I've seen of him this year, but he does score the odd good goal in the A League.

Far fetched? They'd only have to pay off Ricki and he simply puts our Dad's Army and hey presto! How else can anyone logically explain Christie and Lochhead's selection? A billion dollars was at stake and we could have spoiled it all. I'm not saying it happened, but when the stakes are high enough anything is possible. Remember Charlie Dempsey and his infamous Fifa vote and Germany getting the World Cup.

An old editor once said to me "always follow the money".

Anybody have good Spanish to translate the speech bubble? Popular image doing the rounds amongst Mexico fans:

(something about his "anus being fully protected"?)

It's funny how the All Whites talk like they show what they can do at tomorrows game. Sorry guys, but you already should doen that last week. A 4:0 won't happen, pretty delusional to think we still can make it. Even with bad performance of the Mexicans, we hardly have a hance to win with one goal.