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NZFC Problems (now with answers - Page10)

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NZFC Problems (now with answers - Page10)
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Have heard from a number of sources one of the teams in the league is struggling financially and might not be able to stay in the league - has anyone else heard about this?
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I've heard many rumors along those lines but none confirmed.
 
Begs the question why they didn't sell the league to a company run by the clubs when they had a chance?
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i have also heard of a north island team struggling as they mis spent fund money and had to pay a large sum back
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It doesn't look goos.

Otago playing on a Paddock
Canterbury barely survived last season
TW in financial strife (according to rumour)
Youngheart have no players.
Hawkes Bay seem okay
Waikato, playing on a Paddock, but chucking some money around

Auckland and Waitak basking in World Club Cup money.

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Sounds like a top quality league if you ask me!
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Hard News wrote:
It doesn't look goos.

Otago playing on a Paddock with no players, inadequte coach, no players, no money etc
Canterbury barely survived last season
TW in financial strife (according to rumour)
Youngheart have no players.
Hawkes Bay seem okay
Waikato, playing on a Paddock, but chucking some money around

Auckland and Waitak basking in World Club Cup money.
 
I've alway said based on the winter season Otago should be one of the top 4 clubs in the country.
 
Dunedin Technical made the cup final while finishimg 3rd in the soccersouth league.
Caversham won the the league and roslyn came 2nd and those two teams represented us in the south island champioship semi finals where cavey beat nomads and roslyn travelled to Nelson and beat a team who had not lost at home in three years and whose only loss this season was to ECB, final score 2-0. So to get to the point Dunedin football is strong, Otago United Football is badly, badly weak.
 
There are good players that are more than capable of playing nat league but you'll never see at least 1/2 of them.
 
Add to them a few GOOD imports and you've got a resonable team.
 
Painful thing is (like otago winning the log) it's never gonna happen
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I agree with you Otago fan, Dunedin does have some strong teams... if they can get the majority of the top players in the league i.e. Otago Player of the Year - Sean Brand and the likes - it should be a positive season for them.
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HAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
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feedback wrote:
Have heard from a number of sources one of the teams in the league is struggling financially and might not be able to stay in the league - has anyone else heard about this?
 
Hopefully if this is the case they will have put one of the interested Auckland parties on stand-by to replace them. But I bet they haven't and it will become a seven team league.
And again I'll say, if it is Wellington, give the franchise to Terry and let them be the Nix reserve side.
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.

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Yeh well why didnt NZ football release the clubs so they could all be privatly owned - makes more sense like that
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Sean Brand isn't close to NZFC level

Normo's coming home

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i couldnt agree with you more james dean. i believe feedback may have been taking the micky
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Taking the micky yes.... although how does he get player of the year?
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a fair bit of roslyn came into play as every coach voted as well as another 2 men involed in soccersouth and the media who are both roslyn men. As is why either the last 5/6 or 6/7 players of the yr have been roslyn players and the team itself aint won alot
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Was surprised with the decision, enjoyed the Cavvie-Roslyn final.

Cavvie made a few of the Roslyn players look like journeymen.
If Otago Utd have a new coach this year please make it Fleming, the style and fluid nature of the football his teams play is worth the ticket price.
 
Wish there was at least some news? 
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As Rab Smith says, why hasn't Fleming been given a crack, he's been very succesful, he integrates young players really well and his sides play good football? 
 
Sorry, missed the sarcasm on Sean
 
In my view the problem with the Otago Franchise is that they are determined to do everything on the cheap, and almost pride themselves on doing things without spending the money "those flash Norf Island clubs do" (or at least that was the attitude inherent when the franchise was being established when I was involved peripherally as a club representative).  There are good players in the league but to attract good players down and supplement them there which is necessary to compete there needs to be a more professional attitude.  And Terry needs to step up and look outside the states as that little experiment has not worked. 

Normo's coming home

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feedback wrote:
Have heard from a number of sources one of the teams in the league is struggling financially and might not be able to stay in the league - has anyone else heard about this?
 
i heard dave wilson is throwing away western suburbs to put his money into team wellington? huge accusations - but thats whats being said out there. and no, no source.
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james dean wrote:
As Rab Smith says, why hasn't Fleming been given a crack, he's been very succesful, he integrates young players really well and his sides play good football? 
 
Sorry, missed the sarcasm on Sean
 
In my view the problem with the Otago Franchise is that they are determined to do everything on the cheap, and almost pride themselves on doing things without spending the money "those flash Norf Island clubs do" (or at least that was the attitude inherent when the franchise was being established when I was involved peripherally as a club representative).  There are good players in the league but to attract good players down and supplement them there which is necessary to compete there needs to be a more professional attitude.  And Terry needs to step up and look outside the states as that little experiment has not worked. 
 
 
From what i gather the Otago franchise have invested a lot more money this year and have more than trippled the weekly wage of last season.  They are getting in imports from germany, iceland and norway and the team is going to be a strong mix of local players and overseas imports.  Otago will do well this season - Watch this space
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I believe Otago hasn't yet started pre season training, there are as yet no imports confirmed, i will be watching this space.

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Waitakere and Auckland have been training for weeks and both teams played matches last weekend. Auckland beat a Brisbane team 2-0 and Waitakere beat Eastern Suburbs 7-0 (Suburbs finished 2nd in the Northern Region).

Apparently both sides played well so can't read much into it but it does highlight the professionalism of these two sides compared to all other NZFC sides. If teams have not started training yet or even put together their squads then they will once again be behind the two jauggernauts of Auckland.
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The Auckland sides have O-League commitments before the league starts though (well, Auckland does).

How's my driving? - Whine here

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hb pre season training has been going for 2weeks now and i also believe next week they have a mid week game organised with the Phoenix so things look positive on that front. hope they can improve again this season
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Marama wrote:
If teams have not started training yet or even put together their squads then they will once again be behind the two jauggernauts of Auckland.
 
Couldn't agree more. To hear that Hawke's Bay have been training for a few weeks doesn't surprise me; they are a club that does things properly. And we know that Manawatu have been doing something - OK they got whipped in one friendly but at least they are active.
Really? Otago haven't even started training? well, if that's true then they can't really expect to hit the ground running, can they?
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.

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In all fairness the last game for the two top teams was just recently. No off season for the good.
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Here's the real problem: No NZFC on the telly!

I let my guitar speak for me

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and today the  DomPost runs the headline
 
Team Wellington are one of several franchises struggling to secure their financial future and there is a real chance, if they cannot raise the additional funds needed in the coming days, that they won't make the start-line when the season kicks off early next month.
 
 
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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dairyflat wrote:
and today the  DomPost runs the headline
 
Team Wellington are one of several franchises struggling to secure their financial future and there is a real chance, if they cannot raise the additional funds needed in the coming days, that they won't make the start-line when the season kicks off early next month.
 
 
 
 
Tourets2008-10-13 21:28:41
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Well the Canty Utd board have all resigned and are handing it over to Mainland (the governing body of football top of the south) to run.
 
Good to see smooth sailing for clubs in NZFC!!!!  And NZ football in general I suppose.

I let my guitar speak for me

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i like i said team wellington will be saved by dave wilson - and western suburbs wont exist next year
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Thats a huge call...dont particularly know if thats a good thing or not...

Allegedly

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Ole Madrids anyone?
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i think your on the money there dkp22 - remember how much he wanted it, if what people are saying is anywhere near true looks like he could get his wish -
 
could be one to watch this space!!!
 
but intresting rumors
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DKP22 wrote:
Ole Madrids anyone?
 
Hope he doesn't go with that stupid f**king name tho'

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Hard News wrote:
The Auckland sides have O-League commitments before the league starts though (well, Auckland does).


?????
Auckland play Waitak in O-League one week before NZFC season starts easy to find the fixture
and its only one week before NZFC starts

Do you know what nemesis means

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Tourets wrote:
dairyflat wrote:
and today the  DomPost runs the headline
 
Team Wellington are one of several franchises struggling to secure their financial future and there is a real chance, if they cannot raise the additional funds needed in the coming days, that they won't make the start-line when the season kicks off early next month.
 
 
 
Thats what happens when the board does f**k all for 6 months of the year.


Er no thats what happens when you have an aussie team in your town!!

Do you know what nemesis means

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Yes, because there is so much overwhelming evidence that is the case... how does it explain Waikato's financial troubles ?  or Manawatu's ? or Otago's ? 

I also don't remember City or Waitakere (or their predecessors) struggling due to the Kingz or the Knights...

Quite simply wrong.



Hard News2008-10-10 21:30:18

How's my driving? - Whine here

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It doesn't do much for the profile of the sport to have this sort of stuff going on so close to the start of the competition. FFS - the draw is out and now there is talk of reducing it to two rounds. They've got to be taking the p*ss.
Ranks right up ther with the shambles around how teams qualified for the OCL which was decided upon after the competition had begun and Auckland's court action which delayed the playoffs - both from a couple of seasons ago.
It must have other codes just falling about laughing (although on reflection, probably not as most of them aren't any better!)

We Still Love You Colin We Do!

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Hard News wrote:
Yes, because there is so much overwhelming evidence that is the case... how does it explain Waikato's financial troubles ?  or Manawatu's ? or Otago's ? 

I also don't remember City or Waitakere struggling due to the Kingz or the Knights...

Quite simply wrong.




Just a coincidence eh?
And would be a bit difficult for the kingz to of affected Auckland City or Waitakere as they
had long since died before NZFC started
but hey dont let facts get in the way of the truth
put your head back in the sand with  the rest of your ostrich phoenix friends

Do you know what nemesis means

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Someone's forgotten to take their pills again.

We Still Love You Colin We Do!

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