Declan Edge - Let Them Play

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over 7 years ago

Yakcall wrote:

As every coach and player in the Chatham Cup final stood in nervous excitement during the penalty shootout, Declan Edge sat almost emotionless on a plastic chair near his dugout.

Each penalty elicited some form of response from those around him, but the Western Suburbs coach and Ole Football Academy technical director sat motionless throughout.

Win or lose at that stage, he didn't care. Penalty shootouts aren't his thing. His team hadn't got the job done in 90 minutes of normal time, or 30 minutes of extra time, so it didn't matter to him who won the lottery from 12 yards.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/domestic/10...

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I'm positive things will go wrong.
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over 7 years ago

Yakcall wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

As every coach and player in the Chatham Cup final stood in nervous excitement during the penalty shootout, Declan Edge sat almost emotionless on a plastic chair near his dugout.

Each penalty elicited some form of response from those around him, but the Western Suburbs coach and Ole Football Academy technical director sat motionless throughout.

Win or lose at that stage, he didn't care. Penalty shootouts aren't his thing. His team hadn't got the job done in 90 minutes of normal time, or 30 minutes of extra time, so it didn't matter to him who won the lottery from 12 yards.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/domestic/10...

It is not a lottery, you still need skills and mental strength to convert.

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over 7 years ago

I can see where Edge is coming from though. At this level (e.g. amateur) he wants to build a team that has the skills and mentality to win during regulation time.

I am one of the few people in NZ who has NO OPINION whatsoever on Ole - but I totally agree with Edge on this point. 

Even when AS Roma or the AWs win on penalties, I always feel a bit cheated.


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over 7 years ago

To be fair we all say that when we lose

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about 7 years ago

Feverish wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

Bruce Holloway has written an article on Declan (Not it is premium but that is easy to get around)

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12230711

can you not link to pay per view stories pls??!!

Well the article isn't anywhere else, its very easy to get around the paywall Greenie. 

I'm an optimistic pessimist. 
I'm positive things will go wrong.
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about 7 years ago

Yakcall wrote:

Feverish wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

Bruce Holloway has written an article on Declan (Not it is premium but that is easy to get around)

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12230711

can you not link to pay per view stories pls??!!

Well the article isn't anywhere else, its very easy to get around the paywall Greenie. 

I'm not quite prepared to go to jail for Declan :)

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about 7 years ago

Feverish wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

Feverish wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

Bruce Holloway has written an article on Declan (Not it is premium but that is easy to get around)

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12230711

can you not link to pay per view stories pls??!!

Well the article isn't anywhere else, its very easy to get around the paywall Greenie. 

I'm not quite prepared to go to jail for Declan :)

lol, just rude to have to pay for certain news items, its information, it should be publically accessible. I object to having to pay for news.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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about 7 years ago

Feverish wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

Feverish wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

Bruce Holloway has written an article on Declan (Not it is premium but that is easy to get around)

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12230711

can you not link to pay per view stories pls??!!

Well the article isn't anywhere else, its very easy to get around the paywall Greenie. 

I'm not quite prepared to go to jail for Declan :)

http://txt.do/1dk91

I'm an optimistic pessimist. 
I'm positive things will go wrong.
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about 7 years ago

Yakcall wrote:

Feverish wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

Feverish wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

Bruce Holloway has written an article on Declan (Not it is premium but that is easy to get around)

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12230711

can you not link to pay per view stories pls??!!

Well the article isn't anywhere else, its very easy to get around the paywall Greenie. 

I'm not quite prepared to go to jail for Declan :)

http://txt.do/1dk91

so it was a shark article anyway? :)

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about 7 years ago · edited about 7 years ago · History

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about 7 years ago

I'd be gutted to have paid $2.50 for that.

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about 7 years ago

Yakcall wrote:

Feverish wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

Bruce Holloway has written an article on Declan (Not it is premium but that is easy to get around)

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12230711

can you not link to pay per view stories pls??!!

Well the article isn't anywhere else, its very easy to get around the paywall Greenie. 

I would love it if someone could teach me how to do so


Auckland will rise once more

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about 7 years ago

Yakcall wrote:

Feverish wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

Bruce Holloway has written an article on Declan (Not it is premium but that is easy to get around)

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12230711

can you not link to pay per view stories pls??!!

Well the article isn't anywhere else, its very easy to get around the paywall Greenie. 

I would love it if someone could teach me how to do so

One way https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/nz-herald-content-customi/ihphdicpkcmbicihgdndhmkffkejbeho

I'm an optimistic pessimist. 
I'm positive things will go wrong.
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about 7 years ago

Yakcall wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

Feverish wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

Bruce Holloway has written an article on Declan (Not it is premium but that is easy to get around)

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12230711

can you not link to pay per view stories pls??!!

Well the article isn't anywhere else, its very easy to get around the paywall Greenie. 

I would love it if someone could teach me how to do so

One way https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/nz-herald-content-customi/ihphdicpkcmbicihgdndhmkffkejbeho

wow that's handy. thank Yakcall

I have an amazing ability to find my way out of mazes. I'm pathological. 
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about 7 years ago

theprof wrote:

Feverish wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

Feverish wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

Bruce Holloway has written an article on Declan (Not it is premium but that is easy to get around)

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12230711

can you not link to pay per view stories pls??!!

Well the article isn't anywhere else, its very easy to get around the paywall Greenie. 

I'm not quite prepared to go to jail for Declan :)

lol, just rude to have to pay for certain news items, its information, it should be publically accessible. I object to having to pay for news.

Fancy having to pay for a news paper or football magazine... unthinkable. What did we do 15 years ago...

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about 7 years ago

theprof wrote:

Feverish wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

Feverish wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

Bruce Holloway has written an article on Declan (Not it is premium but that is easy to get around)

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12230711

can you not link to pay per view stories pls??!!

Well the article isn't anywhere else, its very easy to get around the paywall Greenie. 

I'm not quite prepared to go to jail for Declan :)

lol, just rude to have to pay for certain news items, its information, it should be publically accessible. I object to having to pay for news.

Fancy having to pay for a news paper or football magazine... unthinkable. What did we do 15 years ago...

Read the paper at work, football mags at mates places or the football club rooms typically. 

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about 7 years ago

theprof wrote:

Feverish wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

Feverish wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

Bruce Holloway has written an article on Declan (Not it is premium but that is easy to get around)

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12230711

can you not link to pay per view stories pls??!!

Well the article isn't anywhere else, its very easy to get around the paywall Greenie. 

I'm not quite prepared to go to jail for Declan :)

lol, just rude to have to pay for certain news items, its information, it should be publically accessible. I object to having to pay for news.

Fancy having to pay for a news paper or football magazine... unthinkable. What did we do 15 years ago...

its not about paying for the paper, its about having to pay for specific parts of the paper. Its like buying a magazine and then being asked to pay more for a code to access the centre fold.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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about 7 years ago

theprof wrote:

theprof wrote:

Feverish wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

Feverish wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

Bruce Holloway has written an article on Declan (Not it is premium but that is easy to get around)

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12230711

can you not link to pay per view stories pls??!!

Well the article isn't anywhere else, its very easy to get around the paywall Greenie. 

I'm not quite prepared to go to jail for Declan :)

lol, just rude to have to pay for certain news items, its information, it should be publically accessible. I object to having to pay for news.

Fancy having to pay for a news paper or football magazine... unthinkable. What did we do 15 years ago...

its not about paying for the paper, its about having to pay for specific parts of the paper. Its like buying a magazine and then being asked to pay more for a code to access the centre fold.

Na- it's about having all your journalism cut and pasted from the daily mail or having some local journos.



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over 6 years ago

*sigh* maybe people could read the actual interview before commenting.

Past members have gone on to play for Fulham FC in the English Premier League, in the United States’ Major Soccer League and on scholarships in US college’s NCAA Division 1.

Although I didn't see any mention of Fulham in the transcript put out as well, so I'm not sure where it came from or who he talking about. I believe Simon Elliot may have had a role with Ole in the past but I've no idea if he went there.

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over 6 years ago

wasn't he voted by the fans in recent times as the worst player ever to play for notts county?


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over 6 years ago

wasn't he voted by the fans in recent times as the worst player ever to play for notts county?

No. Only worst overseas signing. Not that a fan vote means much.

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over 6 years ago

martyyn wrote:

*sigh* maybe people could read the actual interview before commenting.

Past members have gone on to play for Fulham FC in the English Premier League, in the United States’ Major Soccer League and on scholarships in US college’s NCAA Division 1.

Although I didn't see any mention of Fulham in the transcript put out as well, so I'm not sure where it came from or who he talking about. I believe Simon Elliot may have had a role with Ole in the past but I've no idea if he went there.

I’d say it is reference to Elliott who Wilson lent an old bmw to over summer back in the day. A stretch..

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over 6 years ago

Feverish wrote:

martyyn wrote:

*sigh* maybe people could read the actual interview before commenting.

Past members have gone on to play for Fulham FC in the English Premier League, in the United States’ Major Soccer League and on scholarships in US college’s NCAA Division 1.

Although I didn't see any mention of Fulham in the transcript put out as well, so I'm not sure where it came from or who he talking about. I believe Simon Elliot may have had a role with Ole in the past but I've no idea if he went there.

I’d say it is reference to Elliott who Wilson lent an old bmw to over summer back in the day. A stretch..

A stretch BMW? nice ;)

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1 day ago
The football careers of six All Whites at this year’s FIFA World Cup – Matt Garbett, Eli Just, Callum McCowatt, Nando Pijnaker, Marko Stamenić and Ryan Thomas – were significantly shaped by former All White Declan Edge, who has returned to New Zealand after seven years coaching in Sweden and wants to help NZ Football plot a way forward with regard to youth development.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360992276/how-former-all-white-declan-edge-helped-produce-six-members-new-zealands-2026-fifa-world-cup-squad
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1 day ago
Great read that article. Well done AV.
Really nice to hear Pragnell has been chatting to Declan about some sort of potential role within NZ Football.

Polarising prickly figure he can be, but you can't deny his great record in developing top technicially gifted NZ talent. Aotearoa is too small not to try harness the best coaching input it can. Maybe Edge has mellowed a bit with those years away in Sweden?

Also alot of the people he clashed with in the past at NZF would have moved on.
Maybe some sort of role about the best U15s talent in NZ, a level at which pure results shouldn't be that important. His mate Danny might be able to get him a role with Auckland FC and their FDP programme around all the Northern Region clubs they have MOUs with.

Maybe he could even come into the Weenix Academy now and again as a sort of hands off advisor. Someone with outside the box ideas, that challenges the standard thinking. Though he was never in the past a big fan of the club.

 
Edge has been back in New Zealand since the end of last year and is looking to return to working in youth development, though he doesn’t see himself taking charge at one club again.

“The world that I’ve been in for 20 years, where I’m doing this work, and then every week you’re having people decide whether that was good work or not, based on a result – that’s not a very nice place to be, it’s quite stressful.

“The question that I'm trying to figure out is how can I be of use to New Zealand Football, and how aware are they of how maybe things aren't going as well as they should be in certain areas.”

When you look at Edge’s contribution to the All Whites’ World Cup squad, it certainly feels as though he could be of greater use, especially as there have only been three players born since 2003 – a cohort now as old as 22 – who have made their national team debuts to date.

When you also consider his work with current All Whites players started a decade ago, it’s also fair to ask if New Zealand Football has missed a trick not making more use of him already.

(Ryan) Thomas certainly thinks there’s a place for him, though he admits it’s not something he’s discussed with his mentor.

"When you’ve got the track record Declan has, it's hard to see why he's not involved, regardless of what job that might be.
“I'm not really sure what discussions have been had between New Zealand Football and Declan, but I'm obviously very biased.
“I would love to see him be involved with New Zealand Football. When he's got the level of players that he's produced, and you see how many guys have been around the All Whites’ first XI, it's quite remarkable.”

Sam Wilkinson, a Football Ferns assistant who has spent time coaching in the academies of Birmingham City and West Bromwich Albion in England, and also worked at Melville from 2016 to 2022, believes Edge absolutely has more to offer.

“Players obviously have a huge input on their own journey, and you can't always attribute it just to one person, but what he did [at Olé], and the influence he had on these players, it can't be by accident.

“As a country, we don't have enough resource and enough high-level thinkers that we can afford to ignore something like that and not tap into that. There has to be some elements of what he did that we can try and use on a grander scale. There's too much that came out of what he did there ... to just disregard his approach.”

NZ Football chief executive Andrew Pragnell said “I’m going to go out on a limb here” – referring to the love-him-or-hate-him reputation Edge has gained from being outspoken and a strident iconoclast – before declaring: “I’m a Declan fan. I’ve had the privilege to catch up with him a number of times in this role and there is absolutely no doubt that he’s achieved some incredible things. He clearly has to take significant credit for a lot of the development of some of the national team players. I personally like the way he challenges what I call orthodox thinking.”

“The question in terms of missing a trick is a really interesting one. The question is – was it possible to systematise, effectively, what he did at a national scale, or was it some inherent skills and capabilities that he held? I've had that conversation with him and it's one we need to continue, but without a doubt, he should watch this team – and I know he will watch this team – and look on and feel really proud.”

"We've got to figure out how we harness that more,” he added, when pushed on Edge being back home and wanting to get stuck in.
Just said in San Diego this week the five Olé products in the All Whites’ World Cup squad probably don’t stop to reflect on their journey over the past decade “as much as we should.”

“I’m sure when we look back, we will probably appreciate it more – just how special it was.”
Being part of a history-making World Cup campaign could be the most special part yet. 
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