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And Messi is the best striker in the world. Not Drogba.

Three for me, and two for them.

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Buffon II wrote:
And Messi is the best striker in the world. Not Drogba.
 
I think you'll find it's a matter of opinion...
 
Like Downey, I was more relieved at the final whistle than anything. We should've put Pompey away by half-time. When we hit the woodwork four times and Kalou missed that sitter, I had a bad feeling it wasn't going to be our day. That was only enhanced when Pompey got the penalty but Cech did what he had to do (although it was an awful penalty to be honest).
 
Dindane could easily have been sent off. The challenges he made on Ballack and Ash were late and dangerous. I actually thought Ballack was playing really well up until he had to go off (and it's not often I say that).
 
I thought Lamps' penalty was far too casual but it turns out that it didn't matter. Finally, after 105yrs, us blues can say we've done the double. And add to that the Community Shield and FA Youth Cup, as Jose's Dog said, it's been a fantastic season for us. Bring on 10/11!

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bit hard getting up for work this morning after a fair few celebratory guinness' with the old man last night

still on a high, cant believe we have won the double



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PaulSG wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
And Messi is the best striker in the world. Not Drogba.
 
I think you'll find it's a matter of opinion...
 
 
I think you'll find it's a matter of Messi being World Player of the Year.

Three for me, and two for them.

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Buffon II wrote:
PaulSG wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
And Messi is the best striker in the world. Not Drogba.

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I think you'll find it's a matter of opinion...

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I think you'll find it's a matter of Messi being World Player of the Year.
Drogba isn't even the best in the EPL.
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Messi over Brogba any day of the week.
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Michael wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
PaulSG wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
And Messi is the best striker in the world. Not Drogba.

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I think you'll find it's a matter of opinion...

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I think you'll find it's a matter of Messi being World Player of the Year.
Drogba isn't even the best in the EPL.


Please tell me you're not serious? You think that because someone is voted Player of the Year that it's not up for debate?! Ryan Giggs got the Player's Player of the Year for the Premiership last season but you'd struggle to find a lot of people who agree with it.

Everyone sees football in a different way and it's a game of opinions - always has been. And I don't need any award for someone to tell me who I think the best forward is.

At the end of the day, everyone is entitled to an opinion. There is no right or wrong answer.

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37 goals says to me that Drogba has been by far the best striker in the EPL this year.  You can't argue with the stats.  Rooney had a good season but who else was there? 
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gutted for ballack, he must be devastated

those tackles dindane was throwing in were horrid, his one on ash was very similar to the one that saw ribery sent off in the ucl semi, dindane didnt even get a second yellow
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Michael Brown's tackles were worse. The dirty thug.

Three for me, and two for them.

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oh was boateng with the tackle on ballack
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Buffon II wrote:
Michael Brown's tackles were worse. The dirty thug.

 
yes very much so, cant stand that weedy little prick
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Don't forget the number of assists drogba had over rooney.

I think it is a bit mental how they don't pick player of the year after the seasons finishes.

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well the season finishes 5 months into a new year, so the player of the year award was for 2009, the voting is over by christmas AFAIK
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Ballack out of WC, all spiced by the fact Boateng might play for Ghana - team that plays with Germany in one group in WC. Not mentioning another from Boateng's family playing for...Germany.
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deco possibly heading to brazil
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http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/19052010/58/premier-league-chelsea-owe-abramovich-726m.html
Roman Abramovich is still owed �726 million by Chelsea despite reports that he had written off the loan.
 
This financial stuff loses me...
dairyflat2010-05-20 11:40:04
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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he isnt owed anything. a statement was released on the club website saying its all bullsh*t and what not and chelea dont owe anyone anything
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Downey26 wrote:
deco possibly heading to brazil


Apparently he's recently had a meeting with Fluminense but they're unsure as to whether they can afford him or not. He's very keen to go back to Brazil (his land of origin) so I reckon a deal will be done in the best interests of everyone.

As for the club's money situation, the company accounts show a neat balance with no debts. Abramovich wrote off all outstanding loans he had made to the club and its parent company. There are simply sections of the British media that love to hate us. Happens all the time...

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PaulSG when do the away shirts get released and how long does malouda have left on his contract?
 
i cant be bothered searching for these answers and just kinda presume you know?
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Downey26 wrote:

PaulSG when do the away shirts get released and how long does malouda have left on his contract?�i cant be bothered searching for these answers and just kinda presume you know?


No worries, Downey.

Malouda signed for four years before last season (I guess we should start calling it that???) so he has three years to go as it stands. Good timing by all accounts.

With regards to the away shirt, there is no word coming from the club just yet. However it looks as though we won't have to wait too long as all the current away strips have been reduced which is always a sure-fire sign. Also, all three kits tend to change annually nowadays so I think pre-season would be a realistic release date as it gives breathing space between it and the new home kit release last week.

Hope this helps...

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I thought new home kit had already been released? The one worn in FA Cup final?
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PaulSG wrote:


As for the club's money situation, the company accounts show a neat balance with no debts. Abramovich wrote off all outstanding loans he had made to the club and its parent company. There are simply sections of the British media that love to hate us. Happens all the time... [/QUOTE]
 
Hates you? LoL get the chip off your shoulder. 
 
 
In any case it's a good read. [quote]

It is true that the loans from the holding company to Chelsea FC plc were fully converted to shares last year. However Abramovich's loan to Chelsea Limited, the holding company which owns Chelsea FC plc, was not. That loan remains owing; in fact it increased from �701m, because Abramovich loaned another �25m in a year when Chelsea's extravagant spending, and the dismissal of Luiz Felipe Scolari and his coaching team, produced losses of �47m.

The accounts of Chelsea Limited (whose name was changed during the year to Fordstam Limited), show that loan still outstanding: �726m, owed to Abramovich.

A spokesman for the club confirmed that yesterday: "Recapitalisation of loans happened at the level of Chelsea FC plc, not the holding company (Fordstam), therefore making the football club debt free."

 
The other question that really needs answering is the one about Roman Abramovich's money....  but we won't go there will we.... 
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
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I thought new home kit had already been released? The one worn in FA Cup final?


That's correct Simon. That's why I say that I think the club will delay any new away strips until pre-season so as to allow a gap between that and the home shirt release last week. It's just a way of, in theory, allowing fans to buy all three strips without splashing out in one go.

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PaulSG wrote:
I thought new home kit had already been released? The one worn in FA Cup final?


That's correct Simon. That's why I say that I think the club will delay any new away strips until pre-season so as to allow a gap between that and the home shirt release last week. It's just a way of, in theory, allowing fans to buy all three strips without splashing out in one go.
 
 
I read it bad. Was skimming over your post and thought it said new home kit release next week. Must get my eyes checked!!
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
first ballack out now essien, gutted for them both
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Apparently Chelsea lining-up to sign Darijo Srna.
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Joe Cole's contract request declined and apparently targeting Benayoun for 6m.
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Looks as though Joey's gone. Man Utd are heavily rumoured to be the club he's agreed a deal with in light of Harry Redknapp's statement yesterday. It's a huge shame but he was never going to get that sort of dough at Chelsea given the season he's just had (although injury accounts for a large portion of it). It's almost certain that Benayoun will be his replacement as things stand.

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
that will be a real shame if we lose joey, i really think he could be outstanding next season without an injury

i also dont believe benayoun will be good for us at all
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Cole and Ballack definitely leaving:
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2067102,00.html

http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2067096,00.html
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Cole and Ballack definitely leaving:
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2067102,00.html

http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2067096,00.html


cant believe joe leaving, another bad decision

good about ballack tho

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Whilst Joey is a quality player, he's now 28 and his last two season's (albeit largely affected by injury) haven't been too great. I think the rumoured demands by his agent would have played a big part in him being released as Roman was apparently pretty hacked off at their militant stance.

Ballack simply doesn't have the legs to be playing in the Premiership anymore, given his preferred central midfield role. But he's had spells where he's done very well for us since his arrival.
 
Belletti has now been added to the list of free agents. Again, he was reliable when called upon but he was never more than a squad player since he joined from Barca.
 
Good luck to all three, and there will undoubtedly be others following them out the door, but it'll be exciting to see who they're replaced with.
PaulSG2010-06-10 04:24:46

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i wish all 3 the best of luck
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Read today Mourinho thinks about offering Ballack a contract in Real M. Not sure whether Ballack still thinks about this kind of football for him at his age, or just about earning good money somewhere before he ends his carrer - read one of Arabic leagues.
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Yep, have heard he might join Cannavaro at Al-Ahli.
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I had read about the Madrid link and, this morning, he's also being linked with Steve McClaren at Wolfsburg. To be honest, I think he could still possibly do a job at Real Madrid as the pace of the game in Spain is generally a lot slower than the Premier League. The warmer weather would probably help prolong his top-flight career too.

Whilst I've also read the report linking him with the Middle East, I think he will have to make a tough choice to make. He's been saying he still wants to play for Germany so that would definitely rule out a move to the UAE. Time will tell...PaulSG2010-06-10 19:37:02

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These should both be confirmed very shortly:

* Miroslav Stoch has signed a 4yr deal with Fenerbahce in Turkey. I really don't understand that one as I thought he had a bright future ahead of him at the club. I'd assume it means Scott Sinclair, Jack Cork and Ryan Bertrand will make their loan moves permanent soon too.

* Joe Cole has signed for Arsenal for slightly less money (�80k pw apparently) but the deal is laden with incentives.

And so it would appear that the size of the cull this summer is going to be far greater than we all anticipated. Deco rumoured to be next.

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For Joe Cole . . .Arsenal would be a mistake, he's English and wouldn't get on the field. . . .

Anyway Tottenham Hotspurs are linked as well. There are all sorts of reports saying this and that for Spurs, Arsenal and both Manchester Clubs that it is silly to suggest it has decided until after the World Cup.

He has commented that he prefers the other london clubs (I think to avoid moving) and Harry Redknapp was his former manager at former club in West Ham United for many years. So Spurs has the inside running. There is a better chance of a starting line up with Spurs plus he gets to play with more of his England National Teammates at the club. [At Arsenal there is only 4 English players in the 29 man squad and none of which are in the regular starting line-up, with Theo Walcott being in and out of the line-up]. He will enjoy being at Spurs rather than Arsenal. A mistake going to Arsenal. It would better if he had even gone back to West Ham United than turn up at Arsenal IMHO.AllWhitebelievr2010-06-11 05:17:21
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