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Coliseum Sports - EPL Overlords

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History

I think the idea sky were shocked is naive. Broadcasting is changing rapidly.

Netflix is already hurting their Movies business.

EPL was an obvious target, given their large number of simultaneous games in the 3pm Sat slot, even a sat broadcaster like Sky is poorly placed to meet this demand.

Note that one large rights package to Indonesia, NZ, and the pacific islands was sold, the rights were sub-sold to Coliseum in NZ.

I suspect the wider idea is we are a test market to look at how large market sports rights are sold direct without the bundling of all the other crud on sports channels.

As i have already said - it makes news corp recent exit highly dubious.

over 12 years ago

Here is a good summary: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=10906681

I am procrastinating over this.

Pros

can watch Toon and Spurs on demand - at civilised times
Telecom gives 15% discount (plus already has increased data cap)
if I watch the games then I get out of mowing the lawns

Cons

finding time to watch two more games of footy, in addition to Nix games
it will cost $127.50, as opposed to me finding some free dodgy stream at 3 am on a Sunday or Monday morning (which in reality has only happened a handful of times)

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

over 12 years ago

Ubbergunner, doesn't all of that still make it a good thing? Its all a lot better than we had previously. The renewal of the bid will be interesting for sure.

Allegedly

over 12 years ago

andyandysole wrote:

paulm wrote:

As I said before, for the fairweather fan this is great news. For the more serious fans, nothing has changed.

it is good news cos some of us cannot afford both sky and plp. to call people fairweather because they dont get it, you are clearly a ....

I can re-work $10 extra a month through our budget, and we're on one (not large) income with kids (well, one kid and one on the way). Serious fans go to these lengths.

over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History

Sorry for implying that others aren't serious fans, just saying that I am, and having all these channels is critical for my wellbeing!

over 12 years ago

paulm wrote:

I can re-work $10 extra a month through our budget, and we're on one (not large) income with kids (well, one kid and one on the way). Serious fans go to these lengths.

$10 extra a month doesn't pay for it. what school did you go to??

over 12 years ago

I'm on Telecom, so it's $127.50 for a year = 10.63 per month

over 12 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

Here is a good summary: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=10906681

I am procrastinating over this.

Pros

can watch Toon and Spurs on demand - at civilised times
Telecom gives 15% discount (plus already has increased data cap)
if I watch the games then I get out of mowing the lawns

Cons

finding time to watch two more games of footy, in addition to Nix games
it will cost $127.50, as opposed to me finding some free dodgy stream at 3 am on a Sunday or Monday morning (which in reality has only happened a handful of times)

Umm, surely this is reason enough?!

over 12 years ago

Fitzy wrote:

Has there been any discussion on the fact that Sommet says they will be broadcasting live on their website as well?

From the 'About' section of sommetsports.co.nz -

"Sommet Sports is launching a free to air sports channel on the Kordia terrestrial Freeview platform. If you are outside of this coverage area or wish to watch the channel on a computer, tablet or smart phone we will be streaming video of our channel live on the internet at this website."

This is huge.

over 12 years ago

paulm wrote:

I'm on Telecom, so it's $127.50 for a year = 10.63 per month

thanks for clearing that up. take the 63 cents out of the kids piggy abnks, they'll never know.

over 12 years ago

They won't notice the 3 cents at least.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

over 12 years ago

to be fair my decision is all based around time. 3 small kids doesn't leave much time on the weekends to watch a full epl game, and I cant be arsed getting up at 5am to 'make time'.

so sky, highlights and footytube is the way for me to go at the moment.

over 12 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

They won't notice the 3 cents at least.

knowing paulm he will round it down rather than up

over 12 years ago

El-Pistolero wrote:

Junior82 wrote:

Here is a good summary: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=10906681

I am procrastinating over this.

Pros

can watch Toon and Spurs on demand - at civilised times
Telecom gives 15% discount (plus already has increased data cap)
if I watch the games then I get out of mowing the lawns

Cons

finding time to watch two more games of footy, in addition to Nix games
it will cost $127.50, as opposed to me finding some free dodgy stream at 3 am on a Sunday or Monday morning (which in reality has only happened a handful of times)

Umm, surely this is reason enough?!

Personal cost:benefit analysis is very promising

Family cost:benefit not so much

Also a budgeting thing as well. Nix season tickets, AW 20 Nov game, travel/accomm for Napier game. All certainties so spending another $127 although very cost effective per game is not a "no-brainer" decision. Other things like rates and school fees/activities tend to push out these luxuries.

I've been without English footy since the days of Big League Soccer and free-to-air FA Cups. Surprisingly I have got by and the sun still rises in the mornings (mostly).

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

over 12 years ago

andyandysole wrote:

to be fair my decision is all based around time. 3 small kids doesn't leave much time on the weekends to watch a full epl game, and I cant be arsed getting up at 5am to 'make time'.

so sky, highlights and footytube is the way for me to go at the moment.

farken kids. I vowed never to watch delayed, ever. What a silly short-sighted vow that was. I'm already watching probably 50% of Arsenal games delayed and the number of kids is still growing.

over 12 years ago

andyandysole wrote:

to be fair my decision is all based around time. 3 small kids doesn't leave much time on the weekends to watch a full epl game, and I cant be arsed getting up at 5am to 'make time'.

so sky, highlights and footytube is the way for me to go at the moment.

Pretty sure all PLP games can be watched delayed at least once within a week.

over 12 years ago

So is Telecom doing a deal with Coliseum. Read something in local rag today. I'm with Vodafone. Sharing the pass with my old man but my connection is great and his is rather pants.

over 12 years ago

Ok n mind its all over the net. duh

over 12 years ago

Just remember if sharing a pass, you can only log in on one device at a time

over 12 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

El-Pistolero wrote:

Junior82 wrote:

Pros

can watch Toon and Spurs on demand - at civilised times
Telecom gives 15% discount (plus already has increased data cap)
if I watch the games then I get out of mowing the lawns

Umm, surely this is reason enough?!

Personal cost:benefit analysis is very promising

Family cost:benefit not so much

I've been without English footy since the days of Big League Soccer and free-to-air FA Cups. Surprisingly I have got by and the sun still rises in the mornings (mostly).

I meant the part about getting out of the lawns! Honestly though, English football is really not that great. I'd say you're better off without the extra cost, to be honest. Going to the Nix/ AW games is much, much better than paying money which you don't necessarily have all the time for some game on the other side of the world. In my opinion, of course.

over 12 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

El-Pistolero wrote:

Junior82 wrote:

I am procrastinating over this.

Pros

if I watch the games then I get out of mowing the lawns

Umm, surely this is reason enough?!

Personal cost:benefit analysis is very promising

Family cost:benefit not so much

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History

El-Pistolero wrote:

Going to the Nix/ AW games is much, much better than paying money which you don't necessarily have all the time for some game on the other side of the world. In my opinion, of course.

Yep - fully agree.

Emotionally Spurs and Toon will always come before the Nix for me, but the NIx is a family thing for us.

Edit: And of course nothing beats live footy. Except more live footy.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

over 12 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

El-Pistolero wrote:

Going to the Nix/ AW games is much, much better than paying money which you don't necessarily have all the time for some game on the other side of the world. In my opinion, of course.

Yep - fully agree.

Emotionally Spurs and Toon will always come before the Nix for me, but the NIx is a family thing for us.

"It will be hosted in Wellington. My balls my word"

3/7/2013

"McGlinchey is ours ! My balls my word."

5/8/2014

over 12 years ago

OK guys, lets get to work here.

Please email plpsupport@neulion.com and tell them you want HD quality streaming. They said if there is enough interest they will make it happen.

WE WILL NOT FAIL, WE WILL NOT FALTER !!!!!

thank you.

"It will be hosted in Wellington. My balls my word"

3/7/2013

"McGlinchey is ours ! My balls my word."

5/8/2014

over 12 years ago

nufc_nz wrote:

OK guys, lets get to work here.

Please email plpsupport@neulion.com and tell them you want HD quality streaming. They said if there is enough interest they will make it happen.

WE WILL NOT FAIL, WE WILL NOT FALTER !!!!!

thank you.

"I got all my sisters with me."

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

over 12 years ago

lol

"It will be hosted in Wellington. My balls my word"

3/7/2013

"McGlinchey is ours ! My balls my word."

5/8/2014

over 12 years ago

So who has sent them an email ?

I got a reply saying they are listening to feedback etc.......

"It will be hosted in Wellington. My balls my word"

3/7/2013

"McGlinchey is ours ! My balls my word."

5/8/2014

over 12 years ago

Might do later. It'd be interesting if they offer something similar to sky's HD ticket

Allegedly

over 12 years ago

nufc_nz wrote:

OK guys, lets get to work here.

Please email plpsupport@neulion.com and tell them you want HD quality streaming. They said if there is enough interest they will make it happen.

WE WILL NOT FAIL, WE WILL NOT FALTER !!!!!

thank you.

Done. C'mon guys, send a quick email. Could make all the difference!

over 12 years ago

I've sent an email.

over 12 years ago

Incidentally, the new iSKY is launching this weekend and they appear to have some new magic DRM on sky sports 1&2, which means it doesn't fookin work on linux (firefox) anymore on those sports channels. That's useful. eeeeediots. (It doesn't seem happy on chrome either.)

At least PLP does (yay!)

over 12 years ago

sent an email. also asked them to clarify if all content can be viewed on demand or if it has to be viewed live

over 12 years ago

250 can be viewed multiple games. The rest can be viewed once - live or on demand.

According to their FAQs

Allegedly

over 12 years ago

michaelme wrote:

sent an email. also asked them to clarify if all content can be viewed on demand or if it has to be viewed live

Yea man this has been covered. Every game can be viewed once, live or otherwise (but has to be viewed within a week I think). Plus 60% or so of the games will also be available 'on demand' to be watched as often as you like.

over 12 years ago

Tegal wrote:

250 can be viewed multiple games. The rest can be viewed once - live or on demand.

According to their FAQs

Techno-luddite question: If you view games on-demand (i.e. not live) - will the viewing be more reliable (won't cut out)?

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

over 12 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

Tegal wrote:

250 can be viewed multiple games. The rest can be viewed once - live or on demand.

According to their FAQs

Techno-luddite question: If you view games on-demand (i.e. not live) - will the viewing be more reliable (won't cut out)?

Possibly, depending on how they set things up. It's likely that it will be faster as it will be able to load into the future, like YouTube does.

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

over 12 years ago

If so, that makes it more appealing.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

over 12 years ago

The Asian trophy game I watched seemed to be set up like that and didnt cut out once. It is something I worried about. The first live game will be interesting

Allegedly

over 12 years ago

Has anyone got this to work on an iPad/Apple Tv yet?

over 12 years ago

I think they're making an app for it, not sure if they've released it yet, anyone know?

Allegedly