FIFA Women's World Cup 2023

Women's World Cup 2023 - Ozealand

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16 Jul 01:01
Has anyone got their tickets for both matches yet got the tickets for the Sunday game but not the Friday game

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

16 Jul 01:26 · edited 16 Jul 02:10 · History
morgenstern12
What do you think the average attendance of the non-NZ non-US group games in New Zealand going to be?. I have a bad feeling that it won't be impressive
This is a 32 team World Cup for the first time, compared to only 24 teams in France in 2019 and outside of Europe and the top handful of teams in Asia, CONCACAF and South America, there is a steep drop-off in ability.
So there are  more weaker teams and more weaker fixtures.
Attendances will be diluted across the two host countries because of this.
Last time in France, the lowest attendance in the tournament was for the Ferns v Cameroon (8,009)
Lowest in other groups: 9354 (Sweden v Thailand),  11,058 (Norway v Nigeria), 11,814 (Spain v China), 12,016 (Italy v Jamaica), 13,188 (England v Scotland)
And all those matches involved European countries who didn't have to travel far to follow their teams. You couldn't really travel further to a World Cup than to NZ from most countries.
Plus the fact that our second most-populated city Christchurch isn't hosting any matches.
And France has over thirteen times our population.
So I would consider 4000 - 5000 at the least attractive matches acceptable considering our small population.
France predictably attracted 28,000 to 45,000 in their three group matches.
But the games in their group not featuring France only attracted 11,000 to 13,000.
Location and how many foreign fans were following their side affected attendances.
Games at the Parc des Princes, Paris not featuring France in the group stage attracted 20,000 to 45,000.
While matches at some stadia in the regions attracted only 8,000 to 12,000.
Nigeria's two group matches in France's group not featuring France were in Reims and Grenoble and attracted only just over 11,000.
Some games in the knockout phase were not well-attended.
Australia v Norway in the Rd. of 16 had only 12,229 
The quarter-finals not featuring France attracted 21,000 to 25,000
Despite France not making the semis, they were both well attended in the women's football hotbed of Lyon (perennial French and European champs);
England v USA:  53,512
Netherlands v Sweden:   48,452
3rd / 4th play-off: England v Sweden (Nice): 20,316
Final: USA v Netherlands (Lyon):    57,900
       _____________________________________________________________________
There will always be poorly attended matches featuring weaker footballing countries in every World Cup.
I'd be more interested to see how many attend NZ's matches, the stronger teams like USA, Netherlands and Spain and the knock-out matches.
Spain, Japan, Costa Rica and Zambia seems an attractive group to me.
But probably not many will go to Costa Rica v Zambia in Hamilton.
The USA has two attractive opponents in the Netherlands and Portugal so even Vietnam's games will have one good team.
But I don't know how many will go to Portugal v Vietnam in Hamilton.
Sweden, Italy, Argentina, South Africa will also have appeal in every match.
Plus a lot of South African expats will get behind their side.
And I noticed at the 2015 FIFA u-20 men's World Cup that African immigrants got behind African countries other than their own too.

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

16 Jul 02:22
Good ongoing preview series with an individual article for each country has been appearing in the Guardian every day for the last month. 
Countries in NZ's group plus Australia here:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/women-s-world-cup-2023--guardian-experts--network?page=2
The article about the Ferns is written by Maree Mahony, the sister of my best mate Chris at Canterbury University in the 1980's.
Chris is a Liverpool fanatic who has resided in England for about 30 years now. 
Maree's from Timaru originally and a former TVNZ reporter.
All other countries previewed here by reporters from around the world:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/women-s-world-cup-2023--guardian-experts--network

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

16 Jul 06:36
That's some awesome analysis thanks Big Pete.

It's tough.  Given the Ferns have a young side that is pretty far down the rankings I wouldn't be overly surprised if attendemces suck a bit.

The Netherlands USA match selling it as quickly as if did is a good sign the cake tin will be pumping.
16 Jul 07:43
Bananas
That's some awesome analysis thanks Big Pete.

It's tough.  Given the Ferns have a young side that is pretty far down the rankings I wouldn't be overly surprised if attendemces suck a bit.

The Netherlands USA match selling it as quickly as if did is a good sign the cake tin will be pumping.

The Ferns (unlike the AWs) are probably FIFA ranked too high in all honesty. And they ain't a young side at all.

16 Jul 09:52
Getting reeeeally sick of the NZ media coverage of the tournament. It's all USA, USA, USA - they always use either a US player (usually Rapinoe to get engagement from reactionaries) or an NZ player. For gods sake there are 14 other damn teams coming to New Zealand, no wonder the sales are struggling when there's been a total lack of willingness to promote teams other than the Football Ferns (not very good) and the USA (polarising). 
16 Jul 10:07
To validate my point, I went to the football section of NZHerald and Newshub websites. This is just going off the cover/preview photo of the articles in view. have left Stuff out because a bit harder to measure with their womens world cup hub and they've just done a better job than the others. 

NZHerald - Football Ferns 8, USA 8, Norway 1, Haiti 1
Newshub - Football Ferns 4, USA 4, Zambia 1, Spain 1
16 Jul 20:53
Big Pete 65
morgenstern12
What do you think the average attendance of the non-NZ non-US group games in New Zealand going to be?. I have a bad feeling that it won't be impressive
This is a 32 team World Cup for the first time, compared to only 24 teams in France in 2019 and outside of Europe and the top handful of teams in Asia, CONCACAF and South America, there is a steep drop-off in ability.
So there are  more weaker teams and more weaker fixtures.
Attendances will be diluted across the two host countries because of this.
Last time in France, the lowest attendance in the tournament was for the Ferns v Cameroon (8,009)
Lowest in other groups: 9354 (Sweden v Thailand),  11,058 (Norway v Nigeria), 11,814 (Spain v China), 12,016 (Italy v Jamaica), 13,188 (England v Scotland)
And all those matches involved European countries who didn't have to travel far to follow their teams. You couldn't really travel further to a World Cup than to NZ from most countries.
Plus the fact that our second most-populated city Christchurch isn't hosting any matches.
And France has over thirteen times our population.
So I would consider 4000 - 5000 at the least attractive matches acceptable considering our small population.
France predictably attracted 28,000 to 45,000 in their three group matches.
But the games in their group not featuring France only attracted 11,000 to 13,000.
Location and how many foreign fans were following their side affected attendances.
Games at the Parc des Princes, Paris not featuring France in the group stage attracted 20,000 to 45,000.
While matches at some stadia in the regions attracted only 8,000 to 12,000.
Nigeria's two group matches in France's group not featuring France were in Reims and Grenoble and attracted only just over 11,000.
Some games in the knockout phase were not well-attended.
Australia v Norway in the Rd. of 16 had only 12,229 
The quarter-finals not featuring France attracted 21,000 to 25,000
Despite France not making the semis, they were both well attended in the women's football hotbed of Lyon (perennial French and European champs);
England v USA:  53,512
Netherlands v Sweden:   48,452
3rd / 4th play-off: England v Sweden (Nice): 20,316
Final: USA v Netherlands (Lyon):    57,900
       _____________________________________________________________________
There will always be poorly attended matches featuring weaker footballing countries in every World Cup.
I'd be more interested to see how many attend NZ's matches, the stronger teams like USA, Netherlands and Spain and the knock-out matches.
Spain, Japan, Costa Rica and Zambia seems an attractive group to me.
But probably not many will go to Costa Rica v Zambia in Hamilton.
The USA has two attractive opponents in the Netherlands and Portugal so even Vietnam's games will have one good team.
But I don't know how many will go to Portugal v Vietnam in Hamilton.
Sweden, Italy, Argentina, South Africa will also have appeal in every match.
Plus a lot of South African expats will get behind their side.
And I noticed at the 2015 FIFA u-20 men's World Cup that African immigrants got behind African countries other than their own too.


The Black Ferns rugby team played a 4 way tournament in Canada recently and their game against Canada had an attendance of 10,000. For a home match against the current world champs, that isn’t a big crowd. We will get proportional crowds to our population base. The sad thing is people will realise after the fact they should have gone and the tickets are sooo cheap. The fifa adverts should show more of the great goals and skills female players have, rather than images of the players that are famous- but not widely known in NZ. The perceived lower skill level is what seemly puts people off watching the games. They are uneducated. 
16 Jul 20:58 · edited 16 Jul 21:01 · History
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Big Pete 65
morgenstern12
What do you think the average attendance of the non-NZ non-US group games in New Zealand going to be?. I have a bad feeling that it won't be impressive
This is a 32 team World Cup for the first time, compared to only 24 teams in France in 2019 and outside of Europe and the top handful of teams in Asia, CONCACAF and South America, there is a steep drop-off in ability.
So there are  more weaker teams and more weaker fixtures.
Attendances will be diluted across the two host countries because of this.
Last time in France, the lowest attendance in the tournament was for the Ferns v Cameroon (8,009)
Lowest in other groups: 9354 (Sweden v Thailand),  11,058 (Norway v Nigeria), 11,814 (Spain v China), 12,016 (Italy v Jamaica), 13,188 (England v Scotland)
And all those matches involved European countries who didn't have to travel far to follow their teams. You couldn't really travel further to a World Cup than to NZ from most countries.
Plus the fact that our second most-populated city Christchurch isn't hosting any matches.
And France has over thirteen times our population.
So I would consider 4000 - 5000 at the least attractive matches acceptable considering our small population.
France predictably attracted 28,000 to 45,000 in their three group matches.
But the games in their group not featuring France only attracted 11,000 to 13,000.
Location and how many foreign fans were following their side affected attendances.
Games at the Parc des Princes, Paris not featuring France in the group stage attracted 20,000 to 45,000.
While matches at some stadia in the regions attracted only 8,000 to 12,000.
Nigeria's two group matches in France's group not featuring France were in Reims and Grenoble and attracted only just over 11,000.
Some games in the knockout phase were not well-attended.
Australia v Norway in the Rd. of 16 had only 12,229 
The quarter-finals not featuring France attracted 21,000 to 25,000
Despite France not making the semis, they were both well attended in the women's football hotbed of Lyon (perennial French and European champs);
England v USA:  53,512
Netherlands v Sweden:   48,452
3rd / 4th play-off: England v Sweden (Nice): 20,316
Final: USA v Netherlands (Lyon):    57,900
       _____________________________________________________________________
There will always be poorly attended matches featuring weaker footballing countries in every World Cup.
I'd be more interested to see how many attend NZ's matches, the stronger teams like USA, Netherlands and Spain and the knock-out matches.
Spain, Japan, Costa Rica and Zambia seems an attractive group to me.
But probably not many will go to Costa Rica v Zambia in Hamilton.
The USA has two attractive opponents in the Netherlands and Portugal so even Vietnam's games will have one good team.
But I don't know how many will go to Portugal v Vietnam in Hamilton.
Sweden, Italy, Argentina, South Africa will also have appeal in every match.
Plus a lot of South African expats will get behind their side.
And I noticed at the 2015 FIFA u-20 men's World Cup that African immigrants got behind African countries other than their own too.


The Black Ferns rugby team played a 4 way tournament in Canada recently and their game against Canada had an attendance of 10,000. For a home match against the current world champs, that isn’t a big crowd. We will get proportional crowds to our population base. The sad thing is people will realise after the fact they should have gone and the tickets are sooo cheap. The fifa adverts should show more of the great goals and skills female players have, rather than images of the players that are famous- but not widely known in NZ. The perceived lower skill level is what seemly puts people off watching the games. They are uneducated. 
This is a good one by the French.
https://twitter.com/AndrewBloch/status/1680493920172556288
 

16 Jul 22:32
I dunno about you guys but I'm fudgeing excited to go watch some live football this week! 
16 Jul 23:01
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Big Pete 65
morgenstern12
What do you think the average attendance of the non-NZ non-US group games in New Zealand going to be?. I have a bad feeling that it won't be impressive
This is a 32 team World Cup for the first time, compared to only 24 teams in France in 2019 and outside of Europe and the top handful of teams in Asia, CONCACAF and South America, there is a steep drop-off in ability.
So there are  more weaker teams and more weaker fixtures.
Attendances will be diluted across the two host countries because of this.
Last time in France, the lowest attendance in the tournament was for the Ferns v Cameroon (8,009)
Lowest in other groups: 9354 (Sweden v Thailand),  11,058 (Norway v Nigeria), 11,814 (Spain v China), 12,016 (Italy v Jamaica), 13,188 (England v Scotland)
And all those matches involved European countries who didn't have to travel far to follow their teams. You couldn't really travel further to a World Cup than to NZ from most countries.
Plus the fact that our second most-populated city Christchurch isn't hosting any matches.
And France has over thirteen times our population.
So I would consider 4000 - 5000 at the least attractive matches acceptable considering our small population.
France predictably attracted 28,000 to 45,000 in their three group matches.
But the games in their group not featuring France only attracted 11,000 to 13,000.
Location and how many foreign fans were following their side affected attendances.
Games at the Parc des Princes, Paris not featuring France in the group stage attracted 20,000 to 45,000.
While matches at some stadia in the regions attracted only 8,000 to 12,000.
Nigeria's two group matches in France's group not featuring France were in Reims and Grenoble and attracted only just over 11,000.
Some games in the knockout phase were not well-attended.
Australia v Norway in the Rd. of 16 had only 12,229 
The quarter-finals not featuring France attracted 21,000 to 25,000
Despite France not making the semis, they were both well attended in the women's football hotbed of Lyon (perennial French and European champs);
England v USA:  53,512
Netherlands v Sweden:   48,452
3rd / 4th play-off: England v Sweden (Nice): 20,316
Final: USA v Netherlands (Lyon):    57,900
       _____________________________________________________________________
There will always be poorly attended matches featuring weaker footballing countries in every World Cup.
I'd be more interested to see how many attend NZ's matches, the stronger teams like USA, Netherlands and Spain and the knock-out matches.
Spain, Japan, Costa Rica and Zambia seems an attractive group to me.
But probably not many will go to Costa Rica v Zambia in Hamilton.
The USA has two attractive opponents in the Netherlands and Portugal so even Vietnam's games will have one good team.
But I don't know how many will go to Portugal v Vietnam in Hamilton.
Sweden, Italy, Argentina, South Africa will also have appeal in every match.
Plus a lot of South African expats will get behind their side.
And I noticed at the 2015 FIFA u-20 men's World Cup that African immigrants got behind African countries other than their own too.


The Black Ferns rugby team played a 4 way tournament in Canada recently and their game against Canada had an attendance of 10,000. For a home match against the current world champs, that isn’t a big crowd. We will get proportional crowds to our population base. The sad thing is people will realise after the fact they should have gone and the tickets are sooo cheap. The fifa adverts should show more of the great goals and skills female players have, rather than images of the players that are famous- but not widely known in NZ. The perceived lower skill level is what seemly puts people off watching the games. They are uneducated. 
Dont get why people continue to expect people to turn up to games if they arnt interested in Football even if it is a World Cup and tickets are cheap. Just maybe if the the process of buying tickets was a little easier not everyone owns a smart phone. Also think they will miss out unless they allow gate ticket sales on the day. Spoke to two people today who were hoping to go Sunday weather dependent however if there are no gate sales they will just stay home  and watch on TV. Im guessing there are many in the same boat.

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16 Jul 23:35
Sarai Bareman from FIFA admits they screwed up the marketing and didn't understand until it was almost too late that what worked in other countries wouldn't work here: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/fifa-womens-world-cup-kiwi-boss-concerned-over-ticket-sales-in-new-zealand/UYVK27WF7JDPLKPUXWJBDNFX2U/

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16 Jul 23:50
Doloras
Sarai Bareman from FIFA admits they screwed up the marketing and didn't understand until it was almost too late that what worked in other countries wouldn't work here: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/fifa-womens-world-cup-kiwi-boss-concerned-over-ticket-sales-in-new-zealand/UYVK27WF7JDPLKPUXWJBDNFX2U/

I feel like I'm missing something in this ticket sales thing, are the sales actually bad? I hate to talk about per capita but I think it really does matter in this instance and on that basis haven't we outsold Australia?

For a country that doesn't even care much about men's football I think we've done bloody well.
17 Jul 00:17
I've been surprised we haven't had flags on all the lamp posts in welly and stuff
17 Jul 00:19
If you go to Aussie football forums, they're looking at us with disgust and contempt for not being able to sell out every game inc. Costa Rica vs Zambia yet - they would have done it easily if the games were in Wagga Wagga rather than Hamilton, to hear them talk. But, they look on NZ with disgust and contempt whatever we do.

But as to the culture issue - I don't think most Kiwis understand that there won't be walk-up sales for these games. You guys know this from Nix games, half the crowd are walk-ups if it's a nice day and they feel like it. It's not Kiwi culture to commit to things in advance.

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17 Jul 00:24
Doloras
If you go to Aussie football forums, they're looking at us with disgust and contempt for not being able to sell out every game inc. Costa Rica vs Zambia yet - they would have done it easily if the games were in Wagga Wagga rather than Hamilton, to hear them talk. But, they look on NZ with disgust and contempt whatever we do.

But as to the culture issue - I don't think most Kiwis understand that there won't be walk-up sales for these games. You guys know this from Nix games, half the crowd are walk-ups if it's a nice day and they feel like it. It's not Kiwi culture to commit to things in advance.

Too true, we don't like committing to events. It's why season tickets aren't such a big thing here.

Frankly most aussies complaining are just salty they don't get to host the whole thing not realizing that with the AFL and NRL it would be literally impossible. I do agree however that a 50/50 split may have been overly ambitious. Maybe two or three groups would have been better for us.

Either way, I'd say the football community here in nz is showing their support very well. Marketing could've been better though.
17 Jul 00:48
Doloras
If you go to Aussie football forums, they're looking at us with disgust and contempt for not being able to sell out every game inc. Costa Rica vs Zambia yet - they would have done it easily if the games were in Wagga Wagga rather than Hamilton, to hear them talk. But, they look on NZ with disgust and contempt whatever we do.

But as to the culture issue - I don't think most Kiwis understand that there won't be walk-up sales for these games. You guys know this from Nix games, half the crowd are walk-ups if it's a nice day and they feel like it. It's not Kiwi culture to commit to things in advance.
LOL. I find that funny considering Aussie had one of the worst pitch invasions in what the last 10 years? At least we won't have any ultras here invading pitches and hitting players over the head with buckets
17 Jul 01:21
Driving through Kingsland this morning and you'd have no idea a major sporting tournament was kicking off around the corner this week. 
17 Jul 01:51 · edited 17 Jul 01:51 · History
Doloras
If you go to Aussie football forums, they're looking at us with disgust and contempt for not being able to sell out every game inc. Costa Rica vs Zambia yet - they would have done it easily if the games were in Wagga Wagga rather than Hamilton, to hear them talk. But, they look on NZ with disgust and contempt whatever we do.

But as to the culture issue - I don't think most Kiwis understand that there won't be walk-up sales for these games. You guys know this from Nix games, half the crowd are walk-ups if it's a nice day and they feel like it. It's not Kiwi culture to commit to things in advance.
   


17 Jul 03:12
anaveragestem
Doloras
If you go to Aussie football forums, they're looking at us with disgust and contempt for not being able to sell out every game inc. Costa Rica vs Zambia yet - they would have done it easily if the games were in Wagga Wagga rather than Hamilton, to hear them talk. But, they look on NZ with disgust and contempt whatever we do.

But as to the culture issue - I don't think most Kiwis understand that there won't be walk-up sales for these games. You guys know this from Nix games, half the crowd are walk-ups if it's a nice day and they feel like it. It's not Kiwi culture to commit to things in advance.
LOL. I find that funny considering Aussie had one of the worst pitch invasions in what the last 10 years? At least we won't have any ultras here invading pitches and hitting players over the head with buckets

To be fair that probably has more to do with us lacking a football league with actual fans in the first place.
17 Jul 03:44
2ndBest
Doloras
If you go to Aussie football forums, they're looking at us with disgust and contempt for not being able to sell out every game inc. Costa Rica vs Zambia yet - they would have done it easily if the games were in Wagga Wagga rather than Hamilton, to hear them talk. But, they look on NZ with disgust and contempt whatever we do.

But as to the culture issue - I don't think most Kiwis understand that there won't be walk-up sales for these games. You guys know this from Nix games, half the crowd are walk-ups if it's a nice day and they feel like it. It's not Kiwi culture to commit to things in advance.
   


Shane Harmon is referring to *popular* sporting fixtures with mass-market coverage. What is the percentage for, as I suggested, your average Nix game?

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17 Jul 04:20
But also it's useful to A) advertise the games more and B) make this information really front and centre.

I honestly didn't even know that.  
17 Jul 04:24
Doloras
2ndBest
Doloras
If you go to Aussie football forums, they're looking at us with disgust and contempt for not being able to sell out every game inc. Costa Rica vs Zambia yet - they would have done it easily if the games were in Wagga Wagga rather than Hamilton, to hear them talk. But, they look on NZ with disgust and contempt whatever we do.

But as to the culture issue - I don't think most Kiwis understand that there won't be walk-up sales for these games. You guys know this from Nix games, half the crowd are walk-ups if it's a nice day and they feel like it. It's not Kiwi culture to commit to things in advance.
   


Shane Harmon is referring to *popular* sporting fixtures with mass-market coverage. What is the percentage for, as I suggested, your average Nix game?
The crowd for that ferns game was 7,236.

You'd be lucky to see more than 10 people queueing at a ticket booth before a phoenix game.
17 Jul 04:31
Well, then, the only reason why sales are awful is that FIFA dropped the ball on marketing.

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17 Jul 05:53
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Doloras
2ndBest
Doloras
If you go to Aussie football forums, they're looking at us with disgust and contempt for not being able to sell out every game inc. Costa Rica vs Zambia yet - they would have done it easily if the games were in Wagga Wagga rather than Hamilton, to hear them talk. But, they look on NZ with disgust and contempt whatever we do.

But as to the culture issue - I don't think most Kiwis understand that there won't be walk-up sales for these games. You guys know this from Nix games, half the crowd are walk-ups if it's a nice day and they feel like it. It's not Kiwi culture to commit to things in advance.
   


Shane Harmon is referring to *popular* sporting fixtures with mass-market coverage. What is the percentage for, as I suggested, your average Nix game?
The crowd for that ferns game was 7,236.

You'd be lucky to see more than 10 people queueing at a ticket booth before a phoenix game.
Sorry thats not really true as someone who gets to Phoenix games early its not very often there are only 10 people queuing to buy tickets some games  a lot more than others especially if its a fine day. Also frankly dont believe it was only 3 to 4% at the recent Warriors game there were a hell of a lot of people  buying tickets at the gate. Despite some of the claims being made scheduling a tournament at a time of year when the  weather isnt normally the best means there going to be people who will wait till the day to decide if they will attend or not.

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17 Jul 10:37
lthomas20
Getting reeeeally sick of the NZ media coverage of the tournament. It's all USA, USA, USA - they always use either a US player (usually Rapinoe to get engagement from reactionaries) or an NZ player. For gods sake there are 14 other damn teams coming to New Zealand, no wonder the sales are struggling when there's been a total lack of willingness to promote teams other than the Football Ferns (not very good) and the USA (polarising). 

Bringing Ardern into it is a death knell
17 Jul 10:45
Doloras
Jazzy Jeff
This off-season is hall of fame already, first a couple of straight old dudes telling the masses what is and isn't homophobia in the academy thread, and now we have a race war lmao
Oh, we ALSO got in this thread "we shouldn't celebrate Pride because maybe normal women are scared away from football by angry lesbians". Not knowing what homophobia is is pretty widespread, it seems.

FFS maybe just play football and dont worry about who is gay,black, one legged, ginger or a dwarf. Celebrate football,not division,and not some desperate agenda.
17 Jul 11:48
17 Jul 14:01
Fingers crossed that she will play in that game.
Doloras
Got my tix for USA v Vietnam. The Littlest Hooligan has a picture book about Megan Rapinoe and will get to see her play in her last World Cup.
17 Jul 20:42 · edited 17 Jul 20:42 · History
Fenix
Doloras
Jazzy Jeff
This off-season is hall of fame already, first a couple of straight old dudes telling the masses what is and isn't homophobia in the academy thread, and now we have a race war lmao
Oh, we ALSO got in this thread "we shouldn't celebrate Pride because maybe normal women are scared away from football by angry lesbians". Not knowing what homophobia is is pretty widespread, it seems.

FFS maybe just play football and dont worry about who is gay,black, one legged, ginger or a dwarf. Celebrate football,not division,and not some desperate agenda.

Says the guy who couldn't resist making a dig at Jacinda Ardern for trying to do something nice. The people who say "no politics, no division" are really saying: "only one kind of politics - MINE! Only one kind of division - against the people I hate!" Fudge off.

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17 Jul 22:28
Isn't the opening game almost a sell out - I don't care who you are, that's huge!
18 Jul 02:37
Fenix
lthomas20
Getting reeeeally sick of the NZ media coverage of the tournament. It's all USA, USA, USA - they always use either a US player (usually Rapinoe to get engagement from reactionaries) or an NZ player. For gods sake there are 14 other damn teams coming to New Zealand, no wonder the sales are struggling when there's been a total lack of willingness to promote teams other than the Football Ferns (not very good) and the USA (polarising). 

Bringing Ardern into it is a death knell

If she helped get us the votes to win the hosting rights that is fine by me, hopefully her status will help get more spectators along to the games.  
18 Jul 04:46
Have run through the bracket and assessed all the sides competing.
Semis will be USA vs Spain and England vs France. USA will win the final 3-2 after extra time against England. 

As for NZ - I think 4 points (Norway loss, Philippines win, Switzerland draw), but it won't be enough to send us through.
18 Jul 07:33 · edited 18 Jul 07:34 · History
In another brilliant piece of scheduling, I just noticed that there are club games on at the same time (or, for all intents and purposes, the same time) as NZ-based WWC matches. 

For instance, here in Auckland we have USA v Vietnam at 1pm. Northern League playing the same day, kicking off 3pm. Assuming a lot of weekend warrior matches on throughout the day. 

Surely it isn't an issue to blank of a Saturday when a WWC is hosted in that region? Aside from juniors - they play in the morning, so no real drama there?
18 Jul 08:14
It certainly hasn't affected ticket sales for USA-VNM, just about sold out

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18 Jul 08:39
Rusty Dunks
In another brilliant piece of scheduling, I just noticed that there are club games on at the same time (or, for all intents and purposes, the same time) as NZ-based WWC matches. 

For instance, here in Auckland we have USA v Vietnam at 1pm. Northern League playing the same day, kicking off 3pm. Assuming a lot of weekend warrior matches on throughout the day. 

Surely it isn't an issue to blank of a Saturday when a WWC is hosted in that region? Aside from juniors - they play in the morning, so no real drama there?

This email sent out by WCR would seem to belie what you say:

Dear club members,
Please note that there are NO GAMES*** this coming weekend the 22nd of Julyas this has been earmarked for all keen football fans to attend the game at Eden Park in the Woman's World Cup.

We will of course be recommencing on the 29th of July as per the schedule.

Enjoy a quiet Saturday or see you all at Eden Park cheering loudly!!
Kind regards
WCR Coaches and Staff
*** This is with the exception of a couple of senior teams who have agreed to play their make up games as per the schedule
18 Jul 08:41
ClubOranje
Rusty Dunks
In another brilliant piece of scheduling, I just noticed that there are club games on at the same time (or, for all intents and purposes, the same time) as NZ-based WWC matches. 

For instance, here in Auckland we have USA v Vietnam at 1pm. Northern League playing the same day, kicking off 3pm. Assuming a lot of weekend warrior matches on throughout the day. 

Surely it isn't an issue to blank of a Saturday when a WWC is hosted in that region? Aside from juniors - they play in the morning, so no real drama there?

This email sent out by WCR would seem to belie what you say:

Dear club members,
Please note that there are NO GAMES*** this coming weekend the 22nd of Julyas this has been earmarked for all keen football fans to attend the game at Eden Park in the Woman's World Cup.

We will of course be recommencing on the 29th of July as per the schedule.

Enjoy a quiet Saturday or see you all at Eden Park cheering loudly!!
Kind regards
WCR Coaches and Staff
*** This is with the exception of a couple of senior teams who have agreed to play their make up games as per the schedule

Is it? Just saw Northern League was on so, with virtually no research, made a sweeping statement.

It may surprise you I am a white male. 
18 Jul 08:50
Doloras
It certainly hasn't affected ticket sales for USA-VNM, just about sold out
Woah!! Lucky you wrote this - bought my tickets now. Thanks!
18 Jul 20:55
Rusty Dunks
Doloras
It certainly hasn't affected ticket sales for USA-VNM, just about sold out
Woah!! Lucky you wrote this - bought my tickets now. Thanks!
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18 Jul 23:41