it's a non-issue
just like the Slovakian call
we want linesman calling for the attacking side
officials must support goalscoring opportunities
the last thing the beautiful game needs is less goals
I'm still not convinced there was a touch.
That was Seb Ryall's defence!
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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I'm still not convinced there was a touch.
That was Seb Ryall's defence!
Referees decisions aside, Wood was unlucky not to win it for us at the end. Thanks must also go to the TAB for ensuring my belief in the mighty All Whites has been suitably rewarded.
studsuplads2010-06-21 13:06:16
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Lets face it, we played pretty ugly but what a massive result. Pasty should have silenced his knockers by now and unfortunately, I don't think Moss will get a game now.
Would love to have been there. Just a shame the vuvuzela's drown out all the chants because I'm sure the White Noise would have seen the irony and been chanting "we're playing all the football"
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I went most of the morning feeling robbed, not just about the penalty but about Italy's disgusting tactics in general and the ref who bought them. With every New Zealand possession it was only a matter of time before the ref would find something to call up. With the extra possession, who knows?
But then I was walking through town, wearing my shirt and scarf, and I realised New Zealand just drew with Italy at the Football World Cup. Please, say it out loud. "New Zealand just drew with Italy at the Football World Cup." Sounds good, doesn't it?
So while it is easy to wonder about what might have been, just remember New Zealand just drew with Italy at the Football World Cup. How f**ken awesome is that?
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Was Smeltz offside? I don't think the ball touched Reid making Smeltz onside.
Super questionable, even on the slo-mo replay its hard to tell if Reid even touches it, it wasn't obvious like the Slovakian goal that didn't get called for offside...good no-call imo.
Yeah it's not worth getting too worked up about, but if you watch the slomo replay over, you can see a slight change in the rotation of the ball. Don't look for the touch, watch the ball and you'll see it. Agree, too hard for lino to call from the side, would have looked fine...
Classic, probably been posted, but the stats from ESPN. 72% possession and couldn't score w/out a penalty given to them lol...
Match Stats
Italy VS New Zealand
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I don't reckon that possession is right. We did have periods where we held it for quite a while even if we never created a chance.
FIFA Stats:
Italy (ITA)StatisticsNew Zealand (NZL)23Shots37Shots on goal11Goals Scored111Fouls Committed2523Fouls Suffered1015Corner kicks012Free kicks Shots (scored)31 / 1Penalty Kicks (Goals/Shots)0 / 01Offsides10Own goals00Yellow cards30Second yellow card and red card00Red Cards042Actual playing time3257%Possession (%)43%
FIFA Stats:
Italy (ITA)StatisticsNew Zealand (NZL)23Shots37Shots on goal11Goals Scored111Fouls Committed2523Fouls Suffered1015Corner kicks012Free kicks Shots (scored)31 / 1Penalty Kicks (Goals/Shots)0 / 01Offsides10Own goals00Yellow cards30Second yellow card and red card00Red Cards042Actual playing time3257%Possession (%)43%
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Strange feelings last night which remain today.I note that the country is over-joyed by this draw, but am I the only one feeling miffed?That penalty was bullsh*t. Sorry but it's not that often you will have a chance to actually WIN against the reigning champion at the World Cup. Probably not again in my lifetime.I feel GUTTED and I'm sure the lads also feel this too (while still celebrating the result).Or am I totally out of line?
Don't understand all the angst about the penalty (well, I do, but think it's misguided somewhat) - if you grab hold of an opponents' shirt, it's a foul. If you do it in your own penalty box, it's a penalty. De Rossi certainly milked it for all its worth, but he had been fouled. Simple as that.
Totally correct - and after the free kick in the Slovenia friendly I'm beginning to suspect people in NZ (especially Dewhurst) think shirt grabbing is legal.
It's a real shame, as De Rossi wasn't going to get to the ball so it was a silly penalty to give away. And given the position of the players, even if the ref misses it the linesman has line of sight.
Top result and superb effort from NZ. If only Wood had got his 85th minute shot a few inches to the left. Whatever happens now, those that said NZ didn't deserve to be there have got a whole lot of humble pie to eat!
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Here's a video of Italy practising, you may have seen it but it explains a lot about their style.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ukFUEI5qz8&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ukFUEI5qz8&feature=player_embedded
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Is Chiellini the world's only ugly Italian man?
Two words: Pierluigi Collina.
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The celebration was cool but what happened about the super secret "Youll have to wait til we score against Italy.." celebration?? I was looking forward to it, or did they just not show it on the US feed?
Didn't notice it in NZ. I daresay they were too excited to remember!
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So while it is easy to wonder about what might have been, just remember New Zealand just drew with Italy at the Football World Cup. How f**ken awesome is that?
Repeated for truth.
Hey you bastards I'm still here.
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QUESTION
If any of our guys sitting on a yellow card (3) get another card against Paraguay, do they miss the next game? Thanks for your help.
If any of our guys sitting on a yellow card (3) get another card against Paraguay, do they miss the next game? Thanks for your help.
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QUESTION
If any of our guys sitting on a yellow card (3) get another card against Paraguay, do they miss the next game? Thanks for your help.
If any of our guys sitting on a yellow card (3) get another card against Paraguay, do they miss the next game? Thanks for your help.
Yes. Assuming there is a next game. Fingers crossed.
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QUESTION
If any of our guys sitting on a yellow card (3) get another card against Paraguay, do they miss the next game? Thanks for your help.
If any of our guys sitting on a yellow card (3) get another card against Paraguay, do they miss the next game? Thanks for your help.
Yes. Assuming there is a next game. Fingers crossed.
Thanks for your reply. Kia Kaha ALL WHITES!!!!!!!!
Thanks for your reply. Kia Kaha ALL WHITES!!!!!!!!
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Is Chiellini the world's only ugly Italian man?
Two words: Pierluigi Collina.
And after posting this I remembered Attilio Lombardo too.
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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The falling over, the exaggerated pain, the screaming protests, the howls of indignation when a card wasnt given.....
Yes. I am describing me watching the game, that's how it would have looked that if you peered through the window
I'm also talking about how Italy play, and how we knew they would play and had to be alert to. Generally we coped well with it, just a bit of inexperience by Smith up against a wily Italian.
Dont blame him for that though, the shirt pulling in and around the box is inconsistently penalised, it is a lottery depending on the referee (and you couldnt depend on this particular one ...)
Yes. I am describing me watching the game, that's how it would have looked that if you peered through the window
I'm also talking about how Italy play, and how we knew they would play and had to be alert to. Generally we coped well with it, just a bit of inexperience by Smith up against a wily Italian.
Dont blame him for that though, the shirt pulling in and around the box is inconsistently penalised, it is a lottery depending on the referee (and you couldnt depend on this particular one ...)
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Reid, Lochhead, Fallon and Nelsen all have cards, so we can ill-afford to have any of these guys missing for the second round (should we make it). But I know and the AWs know they won't leave anything in the locker room against Paraguay.
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4 of the lads made the BBC team of the day
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8750355.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8750355.stm
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Check the keepers expression, as shocked as we were I suspect!
LOLZ
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Smeltz just gave the Italian keeper a prostate exam and is showing off his finger to prove it.

Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads
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4 of the lads made the BBC team of the day
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8750355.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8750355.stm
And they are Paston, Vicelich, Nelsen and Smeltz
Bonza
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Incredible night. I was in shock again when the goal went in, made such a dramatic leap that the cat exited the house taking the whole catflap including mechanism with him - didn't appear back for a few hours either. Fook me, thought i was still in bed dreaming.
Italy played smart, they made the ref aware of Fallons waggling elbows nice and early and fell over at the merest hint of a tug. Thats their style and anyone who was surprised hasn't been watching football for the last 20 years. Saying that I was impressed how we kept our shape and Pasty had a blinder. Our goal was offside but thats Karma, some you win, some you lose. The penalty was softer than a soft thing but no surprise, another ref might have booked the italian, its just unlucky and any contact in the penalty box is dangerous. Unbelieveable though and massive congrats to the boys for keeping the faith and working as a team - that was very evident.
Not like France eh ?
There were lots of lights on when we got up and heaps of people making noise - incredible, been here for 13 years and never ever ever thought football would be this big, brilliant.
Italy played smart, they made the ref aware of Fallons waggling elbows nice and early and fell over at the merest hint of a tug. Thats their style and anyone who was surprised hasn't been watching football for the last 20 years. Saying that I was impressed how we kept our shape and Pasty had a blinder. Our goal was offside but thats Karma, some you win, some you lose. The penalty was softer than a soft thing but no surprise, another ref might have booked the italian, its just unlucky and any contact in the penalty box is dangerous. Unbelieveable though and massive congrats to the boys for keeping the faith and working as a team - that was very evident.
Not like France eh ?
There were lots of lights on when we got up and heaps of people making noise - incredible, been here for 13 years and never ever ever thought football would be this big, brilliant.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/champions-stunned-as-smeltzs-sweet-strike-turns-world-on-its-head-2006144.html
love the headline -
Champions stunned as Smeltz's sweet strike turns world on its head
love the headline -
Champions stunned as Smeltz's sweet strike turns world on its head
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
20/5/20
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
20/5/20
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quote]As the final whistle in the Mbombela Stadium neared, New Zealand's
fans
stripped to the waist like southern-hemisphere Geordies acclaimed
perhaps the greatest result in their history.[/quote]


Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
20/5/20
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
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ROUND OF 16 BABY!
Or at least that's what FIFA says!
I'm hoping they know something we don't!
http://bit.ly/a69kCy
ahmad2010-06-21 14:22:53
Or at least that's what FIFA says!
I'm hoping they know something we don't!

http://bit.ly/a69kCy
ahmad2010-06-21 14:22:53

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4 of the lads made the BBC team of the day
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8750355.stm
And they are�� Paston, Vicelich, Nelsen and Smeltz Bonza
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8750355.stm
Vicelich included as Centre-back.
Good to see they watched the game.
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Second place I've seen that today.
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Check the keepers expression, as shocked as we were I suspect!
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LOLZ
Even better is the sheer look of horror on the faces of Cannavaro, Chiellini and Marchetti as they watch Wood's shot going towards the goal (can be seen from one of the replays of the chance).
If only it had gone in.
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As the final whistle in the Mbombela Stadium neared, New Zealand's
fans
stripped to the waist like southern-hemisphere Geordies acclaimed
perhaps the greatest result in their history.

Being associated with Geordies isn't really something to be proud of.
Three for me, and two for them.
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Fallon needs to find some way of jumping up but without elbowing guys in the face. Italy knew it was coming and they made the most of it. You'd think he would try and mix up his approach in the hope of finding something that works but doesn't result in fouls.
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Smeltz just gave the Italian keeper a prostate exam and is showing off his finger to prove it.
LOL
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The celebration was cool but what happened about the super secret "Youll have to wait til we score against Italy.." celebration?? I was looking forward to it, or did they just not show it on the US feed?
Didn't notice it in NZ. I daresay they were too excited to remember!
Lucky enough to have Siggy's mobile number and texted him to ask what happened - he replied they keep getting too excited and forget all about the "dance"
I reminded him they should be used to scoring now (this world cup stuff is easy) and better not forget next time!
keefy_NZ2010-06-21 14:33:25
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Being associated with Geordies isn't really something to be proud of.
Doloras2010-06-21 14:34:04Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads
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As the final whistle in the Mbombela Stadium neared, New Zealand's
fans
stripped to the waist like southern-hemisphere Geordies acclaimed
perhaps the greatest result in their history.

Being associated with Geordies isn't really something to be proud of.
...treading on thin ice now...

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what a great result.... last night was just so good....
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The celebration was cool but what happened about the super secret "Youll have to wait til we score against Italy.." celebration?? I was looking forward to it, or did they just not show it on the US feed?
Didn't notice it in NZ. I daresay they were too excited to remember!
Lucky enough to have Siggy's mobile number and texted him to ask what happened - he replied they keep getting too excited and forget all about the "dance"
I reminded him they should be used to scoring now (this world cup stuff is easy) and better not forget next time!
Right on mate, didn't know you had access to the inside info, appreciate it...
Hopefully they pull it out of the hat against Paraguay!
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Being associated with Geordies isn't really something to be proud of.
Cool, complete with limited edition 'Sid The Sexist" label.
I'm thirsty...
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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