Weird to compare relative values with this Huijsen bloke as he's 'yet to play for his national team' when his national team is spain. Not to mention 15 first team apps for juve last season
Weird to compare relative values with this Huijsen bloke as he's 'yet to play for his national team' when his national team is spain. Not to mention 15 first team apps for juve last season
Yeah definitely apples verus oranges. Huijsen made his Serie A apperances for Roma (on loan from Juve), but there is no way you can compare a Spanish age group player to a NZ one. Paulsen only has 1 NZ senior cap, and is coming from a low profile league.
Plus outfield players are always more expensive than keepers.
Perhaps the Nix could have waited until post Olympics to test the market for Paulsen. Maybe that could have garnered a bigger fee. Maybe. But don't forget the potential add ons, if AP does quickly end up an EPL keeper.
By putting suitors off until after the Olympics you also risk an injury to the player scuppering any deal. Maybe they took the approach of one in the hand and all that.
You cant just pick and choose which laws to follow. Sure Id like to tape a baseball game without the express written consent of major league baseball, but thats just not the way it works.-Hank Hill
Pretty sure Shaun Gill on the podcast spoke about having to acknowledge our place in the scheme of things when it comes to what they can ask? The ALM doesn't have the pedigree yet to slap these massive prices on players.
ALM transfer fees are getting bigger and the more players head overseas and do well, the higher the fees for the next batch of players will be. The record transfer fee has been broken multiple times the last couple seasons.
Hujsen was on loan with Roma last year (from Jan IIRC). Scored a goal and played a couple of games but then had a massive blunder that cost us a game and wasn't sighted since. I like the kid who's still very young. I think in terms of pedigree, he's head and shoulders above AP (was already at Juve and played in the Serie A while AP played for the Nix in the A-League), but I agree it is border line impossible to compare young players like that, especially when playing in different positions
Like RR says, we have to have some ralism about where the Aleague sits in the global scheme of things. A young player dominating here isnt necessarily gonna do the same in Europe. Sure the scouts are looking, but they are looking for a bargain. It's like NZ playing the pacific nations, on paper at 6-0 we look like giants, but put us against a decent US team and our giants look timid.
I'm sure this will put the height debate to bed once and for all - someone's put that he's 6 ft 4 on his Wikipedia page! He doesn't have a player profile on the Bournemouth website as yet though
I'm sure this will put the height debate to bed once and for all - someone's put that he's 6 ft 4 on his Wikipedia page! He doesn't have a player profile on the Bournemouth website as yet though
Interesting to see that Paulsen has an official profile on the Bournemouth website, while other keepers on their Wikipedia page aren't there. No squad number as yet though.
Interesting to see that Paulsen has an official profile on the Bournemouth website, while other keepers on their Wikipedia page aren't there. No squad number as yet though.
Yeah radio silence from everywhere on whether he'll be involved in preseason, or is even with Bournemouth right now following the Olympics. Not in match-day squad as Bournemouth defeat Rayo Vallecano 1-0 (second-choice Mark Travers started).
Heard a rumour of a proposed loan move to Serie A, but I can't verify this at all even after scouring through Italian media
Hopefully fans will understand that if this happens it wont have been his choice.
Hard disagree. Best keeper in the league last season, playing in the Olympics etc. He could have had a move in L1, L2 or below. Or elsewhere in Europe. I'm unhappy as a Nix fan but even more as an AW and ultimately AP fan. What is this move going to achieve? Nothing. You want to play in front of your friends and family? Play Sunday league. Being a pro isn't about that.
Also, explain to me how this is allowed to happen? I thought it went against regulations. I read somewhere that "clubs want to review the Caceres rule". What clubs? Surely only the ones owned by huge funds like ACFC and City!
Hopefully fans will understand that if this happens it wont have been his choice.
Hard disagree. Best keeper in the league last season, playing in the Olympics etc. He could have had a move in L1, L2 or below. Or elsewhere in Europe. I'm unhappy as a Nix fan but even more as an AW and ultimately AP fan. What is this move going to achieve? Nothing. You want to play in front of your friends and family? Play Sunday league. Being a pro isn't about that.
Also, explain to me how this is allowed to happen? I thought it went against regulations. I read somewhere that "clubs want to review the Caceres rule". What clubs? Surely only the ones owned by huge funds like ACFC and City!
In the replies to this comment Vince clarifies that based on conversations he's had it is a reasonable possibility that the fa won't change the rule.
The Phoenix also note the rule hasn't changed in their press release.
Heads will roll in Auckland if Football Australia keep the status quo.
They've strong-armed the Caceres Rule review process by making this announcement, and the FA will not want to appear soft or pushovers on the matter - Especially when it's not even an Australian club at the heart of it.
Would be terrible for Alex and his ability to move elsewhere as well. I'm not across all the ins and outs of the rules, but with European leagues having kicked off, or about to kickoff their seasons, it would make a move to another club more problematic than it needs to be.
Can someone clarify something for me please as am too lazy to look into it. Are players that are loaned into the A-League restricted to the salary cap i.e. if a player has x salary and is loaned to a small feeder club, with an agreement that said feeder club would cover only 40% of the players salary while the parent club covers the rest, is the Cap hit for the full salary or just the percentage that the smaller club is paying? - hope this makes sense
Apparently the fa hasn't approved the rule change and there's a reasonable likelihood that they wont
Yes is interesting that it is Football Australia that will rule on whether the ‘Caceres Clause' is removed or not. I imagine the FA will just look at it ,as does the Clause stymie development of young Australian players. Yes or No? They won't give a toss about the 2 NZ clubs, which honestly is fair enough - or even the integrity of the A League which they no longer run.
The update: Clubs supported the motion to adapt the clause for the current player registration period, which will include player registration and salary cap treatment guardrails that balance development of the Isuzu UTE A-League while ensuring competition integrity.
At the end of every season, the APL reviews the Player Contract Regulations and Competition Policies and Regulations in line with feedback from key stakeholders.
Any rule change is subject to approval by Football Australia as part of the formal review process of the Player Contract Regulations and Competition Policies and Regulations with the APL that occurs ahead of each season.
Can someone clarify something for me please as am too lazy to look into it. Are players that are loaned into the A-League restricted to the salary cap i.e. if a player has x salary and is loaned to a small feeder club, with an agreement that said feeder club would cover only 40% of the players salary while the parent club covers the rest, is the Cap hit for the full salary or just the percentage that the smaller club is paying? - hope this makes sense
I would imagine that whatever the portion of his salary that AFC have to pay is what is considered as being under the cap. So if the agreed loan has Bournmouth fuunding 80% of his salary then AFC's cap would be impacted by 20%.
I follow Ice Hockey and Vegas are notorious for being ruthless and always riding the line with what is technically legal but morally grey. I imagine things are going to get worse from here, Paulson might just be them dipping theirs toes in the water to see what they can do to win. Really concerning if theyre able to circumnavigate the cap - would urge people to look into what Mark Stone does every year so they can exceed cap space. Scary prospect for the league. theprof
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Can someone clarify something for me please as am too lazy to look into it. Are players that are loaned into the A-League restricted to the salary cap i.e. if a player has x salary and is loaned to a small feeder club, with an agreement that said feeder club would cover only 40% of the players salary while the parent club covers the rest, is the Cap hit for the full salary or just the percentage that the smaller club is paying? - hope this makes sense
I would imagine that whatever the portion of his salary that AFC have to pay is what is considered as being under the cap. So if the agreed loan has Bournmouth fuunding 80% of his salary then AFC's cap would be impacted by 20%.
Lol- I know it won’t happen, but imagine if the ruling came back that they had to cover his whole salary and Auckland couldn’t make any more transfers.
And now we know the character of the people we are dealing with we should be checking all their transfers and payments to ensure everything is declared for the salary cap.
I follow Ice Hockey and Vegas are notorious for being ruthless and always riding the line with what is technically legal but morally grey. I imagine things are going to get worse from here, Paulson might just be them dipping theirs toes in the water to see what they can do to win. Really concerning if theyre able to circumnavigate the cap - would urge people to look into what Mark Stone does every year so they can exceed cap space. Scary prospect for the league. theprof
Joey Johns
Can someone clarify something for me please as am too lazy to look into it. Are players that are loaned into the A-League restricted to the salary cap i.e. if a player has x salary and is loaned to a small feeder club, with an agreement that said feeder club would cover only 40% of the players salary while the parent club covers the rest, is the Cap hit for the full salary or just the percentage that the smaller club is paying? - hope this makes sense
I would imagine that whatever the portion of his salary that AFC have to pay is what is considered as being under the cap. So if the agreed loan has Bournmouth fuunding 80% of his salary then AFC's cap would be impacted by 20%.
Interesting. Foley did say he would be bringing some staff from the Golden Knights organisation to Auckland.
Can someone clarify something for me please as am too lazy to look into it. Are players that are loaned into the A-League restricted to the salary cap i.e. if a player has x salary and is loaned to a small feeder club, with an agreement that said feeder club would cover only 40% of the players salary while the parent club covers the rest, is the Cap hit for the full salary or just the percentage that the smaller club is paying? - hope this makes sense
I would imagine that whatever the portion of his salary that AFC have to pay is what is considered as being under the cap. So if the agreed loan has Bournmouth fuunding 80% of his salary then AFC's cap would be impacted by 20%.
That's pretty problematic in a multi club model where the parent club, that doesn't have a salary cap, can absorb all the cost for the child club that does.
Can someone clarify something for me please as am too lazy to look into it. Are players that are loaned into the A-League restricted to the salary cap i.e. if a player has x salary and is loaned to a small feeder club, with an agreement that said feeder club would cover only 40% of the players salary while the parent club covers the rest, is the Cap hit for the full salary or just the percentage that the smaller club is paying? - hope this makes sense
I would imagine that whatever the portion of his salary that AFC have to pay is what is considered as being under the cap. So if the agreed loan has Bournmouth fuunding 80% of his salary then AFC's cap would be impacted by 20%.
That's pretty problematic in a multi club model where the parent club, that doesn't have a salary cap, can absorb all the cost for the child club that does.
Which is why the Caceres rule is so crucial to be upheld. City and AFC with their EPL club links can (and will) take full advantage of this if the FA allow it.
