Chris Killen (Unattached)

Given the guilty plea, there is likely a deal to have been done around sentancing etc.

It says he was drunk and touched a woman while she slept. This behavior is appalling and is what you'd expect from people in their late teens and early 20s not a grown man. Absolutely disgusting.

No argument from me there. Getting boozed and touching sleeping women isn't okay when you're a teenager either incidentally.

Of course not, when you're younger there is a certain amount of inexperience, peer pressure, the fact that you're off the leash, and simply that your young and dumb. 

The behavior is horrible no matter what. I'm just saying that he should know better at his age whereas someone who is younger doesn't neccesrarily because of the way that society is.

I was just thinking about myself and my friends as a man approximately his age and no one I know would do something like that at our age, I thought 15 years ago someone might - but thinking about it again probably not.

I shouldn't have said anything and I regret it.

I loathe the 'boys will be boys' excuse. It's a failure of society that teenage boys have a poor understanding of consent, and that we excuse their behaviou on the basis of their relative maturity.

I feel sick having read that. He was a real hero of mine. 

Same. I have one of his signed match worn Celtic shirts :(

I have a Killen Celtic shirt too. Not sure what to do with it now.

I wonder if he has a history of such behaviour - not necessarily go into people's house at night but on tour and with booze involved, we will all of seen some guys who are a little bit 'loose' in some of their behaviours. This might not surprise some that know him, I don't know.

Just a grub.

or albino Russian agents hiding out in the Ecuadorian embassy...

But yeah, a lot of us have to reappraise our heroes on the basis of their private lives, especially in this day and age when sexual assault is a bit hard to sweep under the carpet. There's lots of debate on whether Roman Polanski's films are any less great given his Pedobear/hottub shenanigans.

I think with Polanski he's also attracted sympathy/defenders, due to losing most of his family in the Holocaust. Not saying it's right.

obviously not Killen it with the ladies post career

What a scumbag.

The sympathy was from having his wife murdered by the Manson family.

Really !!! would not expect this from anyone regardless of age

We've been over that. Yes it's not appropriate what I said was misunderstood.

Absolutely no excuse for this. Drunk or not, it doesn't matter. Alcohol is not an excuse for horrendous behaviour.

Did I hear correctly - Has escaped a Jail term for interferring with a young lady. But has to sign Sex Predator list and go to counselling

Turns Out I Did.

Plus 200 Hours community service. No indication she was under age in the story, not that it makes a difference but had  seen that mentioned previously.

He's very lucky not to be Chris Killen (Strangeways)

He should be.