Glen Moss (Macarthur FC GK Coach | Australia)

The problems are starting further up the park and dont think its right he gets blamed when he pretty much gets hung out to dry.Dont have an issue with his shot stopping just his at times stupid distribution.

His judgement can be pretty poor occasionally too, which isn't a great trait for a keeper.For instance, the handball last night, and the game earlier in the season when he came flying out of his box for the ball but got beaten to it by the striker and we almost conceded (I think it was one of the roadshow games)

Ha. Eating my words a bit after that poor game from Italiano today. 

Hamilton

So: MOSSY is now the designated scapegoat. Got to keep my bingo cards updated.

Is it Krishna's turn next?

Has Glen won any silverware in his club career?

Maybe a final payday and a trophy is what he's after.  Let Glen move and get a new keeper.  Would be good for the Nix with AW games 

Don't know where people are getting the whole scapegoat thing here. All a couple of people said was that they wouldn't go on a hunger strike if Moss were to leave.

And that his distribution and sometimes his decision making aren't top level. Hard to argue with that really. He's had a good career, played for the national team, but let's be honest if he had his shot stopping ability, good distribution and perfect decision making he would have made it somewhere in Europe by now!

Also, I agree with whoever said that for years the Nix's tactic was for the GK to go long - that's a fact. But from the moment Ernie took over that stopped. And I can count how many times Moss has tried to play the ball out from the back in the last couple of seasons. 

Every player should be held accountable for last Saturday. If you were there, you wwould understand because we saw a lot of stuff off the ball, not just on it.

Tend to agree with this. At the risk (certainty) of going off topic, the most concerning thing was how quickly the players heads dropped when that second goal went in - up until then we were dominating. We lost all of our shape and confidence, until we scored our first goal, then we started playing great again...only for their heads to drop again once City scored another. 

I don't know if it's a confidence or a leadership issue or both. But the one thing we really are missing from the 'glory days' is a core group of players who are real leaders - Brown, Siggy etc. 

that is also why calls for Dura to go are a bit naive, he might well be the only one holding everything together. 

If this is everything held together, I'd hate to see what happens if he leaces

Further proof that this season is turning us insane..^^

Dura said to me before the game that he really wanted to be out there for that game. I am glad he wasn't, at least he cannot feel guilty about a performance like that. I can imagine him telling the others to takea long look in a mirror after that.

Trouble is looking in a mirror wont fix any of the problems and some might like what they see looking back at them.Also hasnt Dura been there for some of our other shockers and there has been little thats changed.Think  a bit more required than another Dura rant to get things back on track.

For sure. Jeff and Steve. I wonder if his presence would have made any difference?

Also Moss's perceived deficiencies aren't much of a liability at all if the defence and midfield work. Which we really can't say they have been. 

I just get annoyed with his distribution. A big hoof up the field to anywhere. Why cant he pass it out to a defender or midfielder?

He's off form isn't he? Welll....( i think Kosta's had his share. Lia is now a god among men. Go figure.)

I feel as captain it is his job to try and pressure/charm the ref to try and get us something. I think the dissent call was weak and inconsistent. I think the yellow's are more a sign of him having to take cards as his speed is down. Sorry getting off topic.

I think Mossy generally has his head screwed on and is a very cautious keeper. 

The mistake the other night was an absolute abberation. On the other hand one of the things I criticise him a bit for is slowness to get off his line and not being as a good a sweeper as soem others.

even though he made a mistake on saturday, i'm surprised there is dissatisfaction with our keeper. i think it's one of the only areas of the team where we are up to a-league standards and occasionally well above a-league standards

Because it's probably a team instruction. 

Yeah, we've been caught out a few times this season when trying to play out from the back.

This. People assume that players do what they do because they want to, rather than because it's what the gaffer told them to do.

So then, there really is no plan b because plan a is the same every game.

I think we're getting slightly off-track here, but I find it hard to believe that Ernie, a coach who tried hard to install a possession based mentality at the club, would have instructed the goalkeeper to hoof it up field every single time.

Having seen Mossy play for pretty much a decade, it is more likely a mix between some gaffer instructions, his own preference and his lack of ability to play the ball with his feet. At the end of the day he is a goalkeeper, and few fault him for his shot-stopping abilities.

Whether you want him to stay or aren't fussed about his moving on, it will be interesting to see if the SPL deal materialises. I'd be interested to know what kind of $ the kiwis are on over there. Don't know much about SA or SA football, but I get the feeling they must live a pretty sheltered life with all the crime etc. What I'm saying is playing football there might not be for everyone (especially if you have kids, which I think Mossy does).

They live in compounds.

my preference is for a keeper to mix it up a bit with most passes / throws going to defenders

the benefit of occasionally going long is to open the field up and to make it easier for defenders when you do go short

and if you do go long, ideally you are turning defenders around or hitting a wide target man at least 10 meters inside the opposition half

going long occasionally can help the team's passing game. it's all about using your head

going long too much results in the ball coming back to you too quickly an too often

mossy's not too bad from the ground, so i'm not sure why he's going long so often

It depends where you live in SA, but for me, he would be nuts to take his family with young kids.

I have friends that came from SA, they have said in the last few years it has become even more dangerous than normal. Ask Barry Soper too. Oh and these friends are "Coloureds" from the Cape and from Jo berg. They are not White SA's moaning and bitching. These are good people.

It cant be nice having to live in a compound and not go out at night without precautions.

I got the impression that Ernie would have liked Moss to play out more but pragmatism ruled out over ideology, we are not going to be able to ship off Moss to Torino and bring in a 'keeper from Barcelona.

One of the highest crime rates in the world.

Doesn't Brockie have kids? He seems pretty happy over there.

I'm sure the clubs will protect their foreign players with guarded compounds and special travel arrangements.

senzo meyiwa, the SA national team goalkeeper and captain was shot and killed in a robbery a couple of years ago

Who wants to live like that?

Depends on the pay I guess.