Kiwi Players Elsewhere

Glen Moss (Macarthur FC GK Coach | Australia)

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about 9 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

We could get an import keeper too. Presumably at least one of our imports won't be here next season.

If we have an import slot open, how about this guy? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alireza_Haghighi

Looks pretty decent, played for Iran at the World Cup and Asian Cup.

signing an import keeper is dumb

Unless it's David De Gea :)

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about 9 years ago

2nd goal, his fumble and he was lucky to still be alive as the striker went in feet first. Kinda surprised the referee didn't give a foul but then the match officials were abysmal at best aka usual A League standard. 3rd goal caught off his line but to be fair it was a terrific shot.

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about 9 years ago

If he does go hopefully it'll work out better than his time in Romania

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about 9 years ago

It will be sad to see him go

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about 9 years ago

Well he doesn't exactly seem happy with the situation here does he? Would be very surprised if he sticks around

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about 9 years ago · edited about 9 years ago · History

He's a senior player and is in charge of organising the defense on the park, yet he's complaining that players aren't doing what they're supposed to. 

The problems with the team start from the top and as much as I like players like Durante and Lia and think they should be allowed to retire at the club, the whole leadership team, including Moss, needs to take their share of the responsibility. 

People are attacking Morrison right now, but he's just the chairman of the board and as such would normally not be involved in the day to day running of the business, even Dome has said that he doesn't go to the training very often. The football team is firmly the responsibility of the footballing department and therefore the questions about the team and their performance need to be asked of Greenacre, Buckingham, Gill, and Durante and the rest of the senior players, including Moss.

As good as Moss is I wouldn't mind getting someone with a bit of mongrel between the sticks.

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about 9 years ago

Ryan wrote:

As good as Moss is I wouldn't mind getting someone with a bit of mongrel between the sticks.

That would be fine if I had any confidence that would be the outcome.  The odds of getting someone better than Moss would be less than even the way Moss has been playing this season.

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about 9 years ago

Ryan wrote:

As good as Moss is I wouldn't mind getting someone with a bit of mongrel between the sticks.

what does this even mean

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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about 9 years ago

Ryan wrote:

He's a senior player and is in charge of organising the defense on the park, yet he's complaining that players aren't doing what they're supposed to. 

The problems with the team start from the top and as much as I like players like Durante and Lia and think they should be allowed to retire at the club, the whole leadership team, including Moss, needs to take their share of the responsibility. 

People are attacking Morrison right now, but he's just the chairman of the board and as such would normally not be involved in the day to day running of the business, even Dome has said that he doesn't go to the training very often. The football team is firmly the responsibility of the footballing department and therefore the questions about the team and their performance need to be asked of Greenacre, Buckingham, Gill, and Durante and the rest of the senior players, including Moss.

As good as Moss is I wouldn't mind getting someone with a bit of mongrel between the sticks.

Agree about the leadership team, disagree about Morrison and Dome. As senior managers/executives, if a core part of your business has obvious systemic issues then you need to step in and address them. It's not good enough for the senior management of a football club to say they won't get involved in football matters when the team is an obvious shambles

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about 9 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

Ryan wrote:

As good as Moss is I wouldn't mind getting someone with a bit of mongrel between the sticks.

what does this even mean

Someone that will organise the backline and not take anyones shark. If people aren't doing their job then we need on field leadership that will make them.

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about 9 years ago · edited about 9 years ago · History

Ryan wrote:

He's a senior player and is in charge of organising the defense on the park, yet he's complaining that players aren't doing what they're supposed to. 

The problems with the team start from the top and as much as I like players like Durante and Lia and think they should be allowed to retire at the club, the whole leadership team, including Moss, needs to take their share of the responsibility. 

People are attacking Morrison right now, but he's just the chairman of the board and as such would normally not be involved in the day to day running of the business, even Dome has said that he doesn't go to the training very often. The football team is firmly the responsibility of the footballing department and therefore the questions about the team and their performance need to be asked of Greenacre, Buckingham, Gill, and Durante and the rest of the senior players, including Moss.

As good as Moss is I wouldn't mind getting someone with a bit of mongrel between the sticks.

Agree about the leadership team, disagree about Morrison and Dome. As senior managers/executives, if a core part of your business has obvious systemic issues then you need to step in and address them. It's not good enough for the senior management of a football club to say they won't get involved in football matters when the team is an obvious shambles

They obviously need to hire new people, but they don't know how to manage a team - that's why they employee football people.

I know there was a story going around that Terri stepped in when there was a bit of a player revolt against Ricki, and I have no doubt that Morison would do the same thing (if he hasn't already), but they aren't in the business of motivating sports people and probably don't have that skillset.

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about 9 years ago

Ryan wrote:

Ryan wrote:

He's a senior player and is in charge of organising the defense on the park, yet he's complaining that players aren't doing what they're supposed to. 

The problems with the team start from the top and as much as I like players like Durante and Lia and think they should be allowed to retire at the club, the whole leadership team, including Moss, needs to take their share of the responsibility. 

People are attacking Morrison right now, but he's just the chairman of the board and as such would normally not be involved in the day to day running of the business, even Dome has said that he doesn't go to the training very often. The football team is firmly the responsibility of the footballing department and therefore the questions about the team and their performance need to be asked of Greenacre, Buckingham, Gill, and Durante and the rest of the senior players, including Moss.

As good as Moss is I wouldn't mind getting someone with a bit of mongrel between the sticks.

Agree about the leadership team, disagree about Morrison and Dome. As senior managers/executives, if a core part of your business has obvious systemic issues then you need to step in and address them. It's not good enough for the senior management of a football club to say they won't get involved in football matters when the team is an obvious shambles

They obviously need to hire new people, but they don't know how to manage a team - that's why they employee football people.

I know there was a story going around that Terri stepped in when there was a bit of a player revolt against Ricki, and I have no doubt that Morison would do the same thing (if he hasn't already), but they aren't in the business of motivating sports people and probably don't have that skillset.

Yep, but they need to show the fans/public, who are ultimately the customers of their business, that they have recognised the problem and are addressing it. Because at the moment they are losing customers because of this mess, and they've made no public indication that they even see it as a mess. In fact the refusal to accept Ernie's resignation and the hiring of his assistants comes across as a bit head in the sand about the whole thing. Fine, that might not be an accurate representation of what is going on behind closed doors but they need to understand that their silence is being perceived that way. Their business model needs loyal fans, so give those fans a sign that their loyalty might some day be rewarded. 

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 9 years ago

TBH I expect better from an ownership group that rate themselves as top businessmen. It is just basics if you are in a service/entertainment industry you have to provide what your customer wants. If you don't they either go elsewhere and get what they want, or they simply do without it. If you fail to take into account what your customer wants, its very simple - you lose customers and you go bust. Running a pro football club is no different to running any other business.

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about 9 years ago

They do also run other businesses, political parties etc etc...so the Phoenix can't take all their time.



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Plus they own shares in the Hurricanes and have other sporting/entertainment ventures like Melbourne Cup winning horses, but don't really own entertainment businesses. For the most part they own things like Oil / Gas exploration companies, airports, buses, old folks homes, power stations, etc. They're mostly money people who invest, install management teams, and drive the overall direction rather than hands on managers.

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about 9 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

Ryan wrote:

As good as Moss is I wouldn't mind getting someone with a bit of mongrel between the sticks.

what does this even mean

He wants a keeper who'll rush out and clobber players?


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about 9 years ago

Doloras wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

Ryan wrote:

As good as Moss is I wouldn't mind getting someone with a bit of mongrel between the sticks.

what does this even mean

He wants a keeper who'll rush out and clobber players?

Theo might be available...

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about 9 years ago

Ryan wrote:

Plus they own shares in the Hurricanes and have other sporting/entertainment ventures like Melbourne Cup winning horses, but don't really own entertainment businesses. For the most part they own things like Oil / Gas exploration companies, airports, buses, old folks homes, power stations, etc. They're mostly money people who invest, install management teams, and drive the overall direction rather than hands on managers.

Then really, they are no better qualified to run a football club than many people running amateur clubs in NZ. Looks like their ownerships/management are all of things/places with captive markets and some propped up by subsidies. So let's stop showing them any business-mogul like reverence when we talk about them. Their football management resume is pretty poor I think.
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about 9 years ago

They are obviously good businessmen. I also know that they aren't doing this as a business but as an almost philanthropic endeavor for Wellington and New Zealand.

I don't know what you're getting at with your comment, without welnix there is no team to get so upset about. So instead of looking at angles to attack perhaps first be a little appreciative that they are spending their own money to entertain you.

This isn't the UK where clubs survive multiple ownership changes, these are franchise deals and if someone isn't paying the bills the club dies.

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about 9 years ago

Then really, they are no better qualified to run a football club than many people running amateur clubs in NZ. Looks like their ownerships/management are all of things/places with captive markets and some propped up by subsidies. So let's stop showing them any business-mogul like reverence when we talk about them.

I think that is totally bonkers.

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about 9 years ago · edited about 9 years ago · History

aitkenmike wrote:

Then really, they are no better qualified to run a football club than many people running amateur clubs in NZ. Looks like their ownerships/management are all of things/places with captive markets and some propped up by subsidies. So let's stop showing them any business-mogul like reverence when we talk about them.

I think that is totally bonkers.

Only too happy to hear your considered view.
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about 9 years ago

Ryan wrote:

They are obviously good businessmen. I also know that they aren't doing this as a business but as an almost philanthropic endeavor for Wellington and New Zealand.

I don't know what you're getting at with your comment, without welnix there is no team to get so upset about. So instead of looking at angles to attack perhaps first be a little appreciative that they are spending their own money to entertain you.

This isn't the UK where clubs survive multiple ownership changes, these are franchise deals and if someone isn't paying the bills the club dies.

Firstly, I don't believe that old chestnut about philanthropy; just PR spin. If it were true they would be doing a lot more to make the club an on-field success and feed the masses by way of bread and circuses, rather than let the club wither on the vine while they try and convince others to keep them I the league.

Secondly, it a bit of a stretch to call what the current team is doing - 'entertainment'.

I also think you're losing sight of the fact that no one [on this forum anyway] seems to begrudge the fact that without them the club would have died but what a lot of us are saying is that they are not doing a good enough job to make this team competitive, to grow their support base and to keep the fans that they had in the beginning. An extension of that view is that some are saying [and I'm one] if you're not going to be serious about either of those 2 points - then get out and let someone else have a go. In reality they haver buggered up any chance in allowing that to happen because who is going to want to buy the club, when all they have to do is wait a few years and the club will be gone or up for grabs because Welnix have failed to meet the metrics they negotiated with the A League. And they will have failed because they haven't been prepared to spend the money to do so. 

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about 9 years ago

They don't actually run the team but hire people to do it for one

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about 9 years ago

Ryan wrote:

They don't actually run the team but hire people to do it for one

Semantics
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Ryan wrote:

They are obviously good businessmen. I also know that they aren't doing this as a business but as an almost philanthropic endeavor for Wellington and New Zealand.

I don't know what you're getting at with your comment, without welnix there is no team to get so upset about. So instead of looking at angles to attack perhaps first be a little appreciative that they are spending their own money to entertain you.

This isn't the UK where clubs survive multiple ownership changes, these are franchise deals and if someone isn't paying the bills the club dies.

Firstly, I don't believe that old chestnut about philanthropy; just PR spin. If it were true they would be doing a lot more to make the club an on-field success and feed the masses by way of bread and circuses, rather than let the club wither on the vine while they try and convince others to keep them I the league.

Secondly, it a bit of a stretch to call what the current team is doing - 'entertainment'.

I also think you're losing sight of the fact that no one [on this forum anyway] seems to begrudge the fact that without them the club would have died but what a lot of us are saying is that they are not doing a good enough job to make this team competitive, to grow their support base and to keep the fans that they had in the beginning. An extension of that view is that some are saying [and I'm one] if you're not going to be serious about either of those 2 points - then get out and let someone else have a go. In reality they haver buggered up any chance in allowing that to happen because who is going to want to buy the club, when all they have to do is wait a few years and the club will be gone or up for grabs because Welnix have failed to meet the metrics they negotiated with the A League. And they will have failed because they haven't been prepared to spend the money to do so. 

I used to do business with one of the Welnix people until I changed jobs, he told me it was philantropy. The current squad is also supposed to be the most expensive in the clubs history, it's clear to me that Ernie and co thought we'd be challenging for the title this year, hence the resignations and overall disapointment from everyone.

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about 9 years ago

Bring back Tony Pignata I tell ya. He would have this all sorted out within a month.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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almost 9 years ago

With all the talk about Moss going to South Africa (though haven't heard anymore since), this was in the Newcastle Herald.

Yakcall wrote:
It is understood club management have drawn up a list of potential recruits which includes 31-year-old Socceroo Mark Milligan, who is halfway through a two-year contract at Baniyas SC in the United Arab Emirates, and former Jets forward Nathan Burns.

Also mentioned as possible targets are 28-year-old Wanderers midfielder Mitch Nichols, Victory’s 31-year-old Spanish centre back Alan Baro, Adelaide midfielder Marcelo Carrusca and former Wellington Phoenix keeper Glenn Moss.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4653904/kantarov...

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I'm positive things will go wrong.
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almost 9 years ago

Yakcall wrote:

With all the talk about Moss going to South Africa (though haven't heard anymore since), this was in the Newcastle Herald.

Yakcall wrote:
It is understood club management have drawn up a list of potential recruits which includes 31-year-old Socceroo Mark Milligan, who is halfway through a two-year contract at Baniyas SC in the United Arab Emirates, and former Jets forward Nathan Burns.

Also mentioned as possible targets are 28-year-old Wanderers midfielder Mitch Nichols, Victory’s 31-year-old Spanish centre back Alan Baro, Adelaide midfielder Marcelo Carrusca and former Wellington Phoenix keeper Glenn Moss.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4653904/kantarov...

I actually thought Ernie might go for him. He has an Aussie passport too right?

Interesting that it says "former Wellington Phoenix keeper"...

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almost 9 years ago

Yakcall wrote:

With all the talk about Moss going to South Africa (though haven't heard anymore since), this was in the Newcastle Herald.

Yakcall wrote:
It is understood club management have drawn up a list of potential recruits which includes 31-year-old Socceroo Mark Milligan, who is halfway through a two-year contract at Baniyas SC in the United Arab Emirates, and former Jets forward Nathan Burns.

Also mentioned as possible targets are 28-year-old Wanderers midfielder Mitch Nichols, Victory’s 31-year-old Spanish centre back Alan Baro, Adelaide midfielder Marcelo Carrusca and former Wellington Phoenix keeper Glenn Moss.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4653904/kantarov...

I actually thought Ernie might go for him. He has an Aussie passport too right?

Interesting that it says "former Wellington Phoenix keeper"...

Not 100% sure but assume so seeing as he has played for Victory and Gold Coast before and doubt would have been signed as visa spot.

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I'm positive things will go wrong.
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almost 9 years ago

Moss definitely has an Aussie passport.

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almost 9 years ago

Heard there haven't been any concrete offers from SA. 

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almost 9 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

Heard there haven't been any concrete offers from SA. 

Can confirm no offers from SA from what I've heard as well.

Valley FC til I die?

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almost 9 years ago

Nelfoos wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

Heard there haven't been any concrete offers from SA. 

Can confirm no offers from SA from what I've heard as well.

I can confirm this also!!

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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almost 9 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

Heard there haven't been any concrete offers from SA. 

Can confirm no offers from SA from what I've heard as well.

I can confirm this also!!

I can't confirm this. 

I'm an optimistic pessimist. 
I'm positive things will go wrong.
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almost 9 years ago

I will also confirm that thus far, no concrete offers. My balls my word.



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almost 9 years ago

At least no one's denying it

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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almost 9 years ago

I can confirm I'm not denying it

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almost 9 years ago

HZA wrote:

I can confirm I'm not denying it

I can confirm that he has confirmed that he isn't denying it (HZA)

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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almost 9 years ago

I can also conform.

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