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Glen Moss (Macarthur FC GK Coach | Australia)

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
If one on ones were the only aspect of a keepers performance then maybe I would rate him more highly. 
 
Potentially they are the high stakes part of a keeper's performance (unless yours truly was the striker ), but unconvincing marshalling of defence, flapping at crosses, lack of physical presence (does Moss ever give you the impression that he would take out his own defenders head if it got in the way? - best keepers take no prisoners, including their own in my experience) are other aspects that I am still unconvinced about.
 
However, the boy done good other night.   
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Admittedly, he hadn't before, but when he made the two fisted punch early in the first half v Perth he came out for that like he was going thru' anything which got in front of him. Maybe he's learning from his previous games. Everybody talks, quite rightly, about a keeper giving his defenders confidence but I'm sure it works the other way as well. he's a good keeper and I'm sure he'll get even better.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

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about 9 years ago

Congratulations on making it to 200 A-League games

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about 9 years ago

Must be contract negiation time....

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about 9 years ago

Let him go, Italiano did well in the first half and Sail did alright in the second on Tuesday. Time to move on and not let emotion rule.

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about 9 years ago

Lonegunmen wrote:

Let him go, Italiano did well in the first half and Sail did alright in the second on Tuesday. Time to move on and not let emotion rule.

Marinovic is off contract in June, bring him back to NZ

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about 9 years ago

Lonegunmen wrote:

Let him go, Italiano did well in the first half and Sail did alright in the second on Tuesday. Time to move on and not let emotion rule.

Marinovic is off contract in June, bring him back to NZ

He should be aiming to get another gig in Europe surely



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about 9 years ago

Lonegunmen wrote:

Let him go, Italiano did well in the first half and Sail did alright in the second on Tuesday. Time to move on and not let emotion rule.

Italiano has looked very shaky whenever he's played in the A-League.

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about 9 years ago

martinb wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

Let him go, Italiano did well in the first half and Sail did alright in the second on Tuesday. Time to move on and not let emotion rule.

Marinovic is off contract in June, bring him back to NZ

He should be aiming to get another gig in Europe surely

Hard to break into the first team for a club at a decent level as a keeper - and he's playing German 4th tier at the moment. A League wouldn't exactly be a step down.

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about 9 years ago

anybody has to be better than moss at the moment - his form has been below par all season, he has made some great one off saves but has yet to play a dominant role in any game!

Queenslander 3x a year.

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about 9 years ago

5-1. Not all Moss's fault though. But cover the friggen back post.

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about 9 years ago

It's funny how quickly people forget, just a few games ago we were praising how good our defense is and thinking Moss was in career best form.

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about 9 years ago

Moss was fine tonight.  Can't think of one goal he could possibly have saved.

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about 9 years ago

He should have organized his back post protection for starters.

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about 9 years ago

I thought the 2nd goal was the death knell, and that was Moss' fault - rookie error stepping outside the box to concede the free kick. Hasn't been good this year, but no one has.

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about 9 years ago

Moss has saved our bacon so many times this year with top quality saves. He's always been a little fragile in the air and that's generally where he will make the odd mistake, but for me it's a reasonable trade-off for all the good stuff he does. Compare him with the other A League keepers and ask yourself who you'd rather have instead. Not many names spring to mind.

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about 9 years ago

Moss is deceptively shark. His shot stopping is blinding us. His organisation is poor, distribution shocking, and is shaky in the air. Compare him with Vuko or Galokovic and you will understand.

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about 9 years ago
I would rather velapi and he is shark
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about 9 years ago

pierre wrote:

Moss is deceptively shark. His shot stopping is blinding us. His organisation is poor, distribution shocking, and is shaky in the air. Compare him with Vuko or Galokovic and you will understand.

so so soooooo this, add theo into that mix. our too longest standing keepers have never really been that good at organising the defence, hence we have shipped goals from corners alot and free kicks. Neither Moss or Paston are/was that good at managing their 6 yard box IMO.

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about 9 years ago · edited about 9 years ago · History

How often is the ball passed back to him and all he does is a wild hoof up the field - usually out of play? Sorry but he is a good shot stopper but as an organiser or encourager of our new young defenders, it has been a fail. He and Durante can often be seen arguing after we concede yet another goal. Duro probably wanting to know why he was not called into position by Moss.

Ps; Fixed up most of the shark spelling. Fudge I hate touch screen keyboards.

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about 9 years ago

Lonegunmen wrote:

How often is the ball passed back to him and all he does is a wild hoof up the field - usually out of play? Sorry but he is a good shot stopper but as an organiser or encourager of our new houseoung d3fenders, it has been a fail. He qnd Durante can often be seen arguing after we concede yet another goal. Duro probably wanting to know why he was not called into position by Moss.

You cant say that according to some that dosnt happen you must be imagining it.

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about 9 years ago

nobody has ever said you can't say that. I'll disagree with you, but that doesn't mean I'm saying you can't say it. 

A couple of rounds ago he was one of the best keepers in the league. Literally just last week he was voted in a landslide as our best keeper in Phoenix history, and now he's the worst? A lot of goalkeeping experts around. 


Allegedly

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about 9 years ago

FFS thought this was a forum where people could express their views.This place is full of people who think they are experts at everything nothing new about that.


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about 9 years ago · edited about 9 years ago · History

wtf. I literally said you could. You're allowed your view, I'm allowed to disagree with it. Somebody disagreeing with you is not the same thing as somebody saying you're not allowed to have that opinion. 

I do find the "he doesn't organise his defence" criticism interesting being as we can't actually hear what he is saying on the field. 


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about 9 years ago

ballane wrote:

FFS thought this was a forum where people could express their views.This place is full of people who think they are experts at everything nothing new about that.

So everyone thinks they're an expert except you? And no one can express an opinion except you? Because you're literally getting mad at a post saying you can express your opinion but people don't have to agree to it.

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about 9 years ago

Gents Moss has to go along with Dura Lia and quite a few others but in Mossys  defence look whats in front of him a defence  that can't defend in fact the whole team are poor when they loose the ball. Moss never has time to settle.I agree his distribution is weak. Been a good servant but he needs to move on.

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about 9 years ago

Tegal wrote:

nobody has ever said you can't say that. I'll disagree with you, but that doesn't mean I'm saying you can't say it. 

A couple of rounds ago he was one of the best keepers in the league. Literally just last week he was voted in a landslide as our best keeper in Phoenix history, and now he's the worst? A lot of goalkeeping experts around. 

we've only had 2 long term goalkeepers though, so getting voted best ever Nix keeper isn't a huge deal. 

I voted for Vukovic....

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about 9 years ago

I for one won't be crying if Mossy moves on to SPL. Never been a massive fan - always preferred Paston to him personally.

He's a good shot stopper but terrible distribution (and hasn't really improved over the years) and terrible under pressure.

Question is, who would we get to replace him? Italiano isn't up to it from what I've seen from him when he played for WeeNix in the past.

I wonder if the likes of Sail/Spoonley (always rated him) etc will get a look in if Mossy does indeed not renew his contract.


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about 9 years ago · edited about 9 years ago · History

I wouldn't be too heartbroken if Moss left for SA, he's earned the right to a good pay day over there if he chooses. Think we are quite blessed with goalkeepers currently. Italiano is a good shot stopper, and will only get better in other areas. 


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about 9 years ago

I do find it odd that he's copping flak for poor distribution when kicking it long has clearly been a coaching instruction pretty much from day 1 of the Nix's history. I get just as frustrated as everyone else at the futility of the pass-it-back-kick-it-long 'tactic' but it's not up to Moss to make a wholesale change, it's the responsibility of the coach, and it says something about the tunnel vision of successive coaches that this has never been addressed.

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about 9 years ago

Outpost wrote:

I do find it odd that he's copping flak for poor distribution when kicking it long has clearly been a coaching instruction pretty much from day 1 of the Nix's history. I get just as frustrated as everyone else at the futility of the pass-it-back-kick-it-long 'tactic' but it's not up to Moss to make a wholesale change, it's the responsibility of the coach, and it says something about the tunnel vision of successive coaches that this has never been addressed.

his long kicking isn't very accurate though

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about 9 years ago

Outpost wrote:

I do find it odd that he's copping flak for poor distribution when kicking it long has clearly been a coaching instruction pretty much from day 1 of the Nix's history. I get just as frustrated as everyone else at the futility of the pass-it-back-kick-it-long 'tactic' but it's not up to Moss to make a wholesale change, it's the responsibility of the coach, and it says something about the tunnel vision of successive coaches that this has never been addressed.

his long kicking isn't very accurate though

Not only that though expecting the likes of Kosta Roy and WeeMac to win aerial battles and players not giving decent options means its a tactic that is set up to fail

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about 9 years ago · edited about 9 years ago · History

I've always found that odd in football, but it seems to be a worldwide tactic for keepers to kick it long. So I'm thinking there must be a reason for it. 

Is it just not worth the risk to be under pressure if they press you in a short pass from the keeper? If they do press on the keeper is it that you're better off playing the numbers advantage down the field so knocking it long is more sensible than playing it short and being under pressure? 

It'd be interesting to ask a coach that actually, because I have always wondered. 


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about 9 years ago

Outpost wrote:

I do find it odd that he's copping flak for poor distribution when kicking it long has clearly been a coaching instruction pretty much from day 1 of the Nix's history. I get just as frustrated as everyone else at the futility of the pass-it-back-kick-it-long 'tactic' but it's not up to Moss to make a wholesale change, it's the responsibility of the coach, and it says something about the tunnel vision of successive coaches that this has never been addressed.

his long kicking isn't very accurate though

it is deadly accurate. He always manages to puck out opposing teams 6'10" centreback who is marking our 5'3" strikers. Or the sideline.
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about 9 years ago

People should take a look at this weekends SS Premiership  highlights when they go up and reconsider if Italiano is better than Moss.

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about 9 years ago

Tegal wrote:

nobody has ever said you can't say that. I'll disagree with you, but that doesn't mean I'm saying you can't say it. 

A couple of rounds ago he was one of the best keepers in the league. Literally just last week he was voted in a landslide as our best keeper in Phoenix history, and now he's the worst? A lot of goalkeeping experts around. 

we've only had 2 long term goalkeepers though, so getting voted best ever Nix keeper isn't a huge deal. 

I voted for Vukovic....

Ditto. I judged in on what he does and doesn't do or offer on the field. I will do the same with the rest of the choices too. Vukovic is the better 'Keeper in my opinion as a non qualified opinion holder.

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about 9 years ago

Vuko isn't on our books any more though!

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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about 9 years ago

Vuko isn't on our books any more though!

And?? He and Reddy were damn good keepers for us in the short stays. Ignore the off field issues with drinking for Reddy, between the sticks he was great.

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about 9 years ago

The fact of the matter in the A-League is that you can't spend sharkloads of money on your goalkeeper. For all of Moss's apparent shortcomings, he's still a solid A-League goalkeeper compared to rest of the league. 

I'd have Moss at the club over a player like Kennedy/Izzo/Bouzanis etc anyday.


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about 9 years ago

Moss has weaknesses but he also has strengths and it's bit silly to spend salary cap on a top top level keeper when we have more pressing issues in other places on the field.

If another regular A-League keeper came up on our radar and we could get him in for something around what Moss was getting then it might be worth it as Italiano aint up to it.

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