Appiah without the pace
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19K
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almost 17 years
Starting XI
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2.9K
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over 16 years

Braintree Town. He must be good then.

Bevan
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First Team Squad
210
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1.7K
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over 16 years

So the Nix get to pick up the All Whites who are not good enough for Hudson's Colorado?

(although I'd love to be proved wrong on this view)

Legend
7.2K
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15K
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over 16 years

Is he really better than Parkhouse?

Parky, while a terrible defender, is a decent a league squaddie and has moments of capability. Very one footed, and hasn't been the greatest finisher. However, quick, can dribble, can counter, can cross sometimes and the left peg is a decent one. 

What have we seen of Monty at A-league or above?

Marquee
4K
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5.5K
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almost 12 years

Sorry, but Parkhouse is very limited - how he has got this far as a winger whose job is to cross a ball with effectively one leg is beyond me.

Playing him on the left just helped him to hide the fact - now its know, watch every defender in the league push him onto his right.

Other negatives include: his abiity to butcher golden chances when shooting - inability to header, inability to beat a man, inability to defend and inability to grow a beard.

Patterson, from what I have seen with the AW is a far busier player, better off both feet and technically a lot sharper. The only area he might lack a little is pace - but we have that in the team already, we just need players who can release it. Personally I think he has a lot of parallels to Rojas.

Marquee
2.1K
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8.2K
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about 17 years

martinb wrote:

Is he really better than Parkhouse?

Parky, while a terrible defender, is a decent a league squaddie and has moments of capability. Very one footed, and hasn't been the greatest finisher. However, quick, can dribble, can counter, can cross sometimes and the left peg is a decent one. 

What have we seen of Monty at A-league or above?

Parkhouse is way below a squaddie, he is crap.

valeo
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Legend
4.6K
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18K
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about 17 years

Parkhouse is a known quanity, has never really set the world on fire, Aussie

Patterson still is in the 'potential' bucket, Kiwi

I know which one I'd want.

Lawyerish
1.8K
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4.8K
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over 13 years

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Sorry, but Parkhouse is very limited - how he has got this far as a winger whose job is to cross a ball with effectively one leg is beyond me.

Playing him on the left just helped him to hide the fact - now its know, watch every defender in the league push him onto his right.

Other negatives include: his abiity to butcher golden chances when shooting - inability to header, inability to beat a man, inability to defend and inability to grow a beard.

Patterson, from what I have seen with the AW is a far busier player, better off both feet and technically a lot sharper. The only area he might lack a little is pace - but we have that in the team already, we just need players who can release it. Personally I think he has a lot of parallels to Rojas.

In what way is he parallel to Rojas? He has no pace and haven't seen him dribble past anyone before.

One in a million
4.2K
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9.5K
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about 17 years

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Sorry, but Parkhouse is very limited - how he has got this far as a winger whose job is to cross a ball with effectively one leg is beyond me.

Playing him on the left just helped him to hide the fact - now its know, watch every defender in the league push him onto his right.

Other negatives include: his abiity to butcher golden chances when shooting - inability to header, inability to beat a man, inability to defend and inability to grow a beard.

Patterson, from what I have seen with the AW is a far busier player, better off both feet and technically a lot sharper. The only area he might lack a little is pace - but we have that in the team already, we just need players who can release it. Personally I think he has a lot of parallels to Rojas.

In what way is he parallel to Rojas? He has no pace and haven't seen him dribble past anyone before.

But, apart from that?

Lawyerish
1.8K
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4.8K
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over 13 years
Marquee
4K
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5.5K
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almost 12 years

Patterson routinely took on and beat players at the U20WC and if you read the various article about him when he signed at Ipswich they all talked about his technical ability.

Rojas came from the NZFC - Patterson is at least coming in from a pro environment.

When he has played for the All Whites he has genuinely looked like one of the few players in the team who actually prefers the ball on the deck.

Lawyerish
1.8K
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4.8K
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over 13 years

i really hope you prove correct, 

From what I see of Patterson they are chalk and cheese

Once again I hope I am wrong so let's see

Starting XI
1.8K
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4.1K
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about 17 years

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Sorry, but Parkhouse is very limited - how he has got this far as a winger whose job is to cross a ball with effectively one leg is beyond me.

Playing him on the left just helped him to hide the fact - now its know, watch every defender in the league push him onto his right.

Other negatives include: his abiity to butcher golden chances when shooting - inability to header, inability to beat a man, inability to defend and inability to grow a beard.

Patterson, from what I have seen with the AW is a far busier player, better off both feet and technically a lot sharper. The only area he might lack a little is pace - but we have that in the team already, we just need players who can release it. Personally I think he has a lot of parallels to Rojas.

bang on

Early retirement
3.1K
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34K
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about 17 years

Even if he's shark he's a shark kiwi rather than a shark Australian.  Surely that is an upgrade.

Marquee
1.2K
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5.5K
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over 13 years

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Sorry, but Parkhouse is very limited - how he has got this far as a winger whose job is to cross a ball with effectively one leg is beyond me.

Playing him on the left just helped him to hide the fact - now its know, watch every defender in the league push him onto his right.

Other negatives include: his abiity to butcher golden chances when shooting - inability to header, inability to beat a man, inability to defend and inability to grow a beard.

Patterson, from what I have seen with the AW is a far busier player, better off both feet and technically a lot sharper. The only area he might lack a little is pace - but we have that in the team already, we just need players who can release it. Personally I think he has a lot of parallels to Rojas.

We need more players who meet this criteria

Starting XI
1.8K
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4.1K
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about 17 years

I thought Patterson did ok last night. This is a step up for him, I think he could become pretty decent

RR
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Bossi Insider
9.8K
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34K
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almost 16 years

reg22 wrote:

I thought Patterson did ok last night. This is a step up for him, I think he could become pretty decent

He didn't stink up the joint but didn't see anything to suggest he is more than Watto with a better first touch yet.
Starting XI
1.8K
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4.1K
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about 17 years

i didn't mind watto. like anyone, he needed regular games and some sort of plan around him. but yeah, i agree with your assessment

Marquee
4.4K
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6.8K
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over 13 years

RR wrote:

reg22 wrote:

I thought Patterson did ok last night. This is a step up for him, I think he could become pretty decent

He didn't stink up the joint but didn't see anything to suggest he is more than Watto with a better first touch yet.

I did not see Patterson stray into an offside position last night.

valeo
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Legend
4.6K
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18K
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about 17 years

Patterson lacks the pace to play out wide; a bit concerning.

Marquee
740
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5.2K
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almost 17 years

valeo wrote:

Patterson lacks the pace to play out wide; a bit concerning.

This occurred to me too. When he was chasing the ball most of the time he lost out to the Perth defense. 

Marquee
4K
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5.5K
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almost 12 years

Thought he looked busy and wanted the ball at feet - happy with that.

Starting XI
1.8K
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4.1K
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about 17 years

the pace thing is an interesting one and it does limit his options and the fact that he is right footed probably means that he has to play on the left as an off the shoulder type wide striker, rather than as a winger on his natural side. 

Legend
8.4K
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15K
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over 16 years

he's a striker not a winger yeah?

First Team Squad
1.2K
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1.6K
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over 14 years

RR wrote:

reg22 wrote:

I thought Patterson did ok last night. This is a step up for him, I think he could become pretty decent

He didn't stink up the joint but didn't see anything to suggest he is more than Watto with a better first touch yet.

He was on for 45 minutes and I don't recall a single offside...

In seriousness, I think Watto could have delivered more with consistent game time, same as many of the younger players. Ridenton was one of the lower rated youngsters and through lack of injuries and necessity he has got some good minutes and now look. Hopefully Patterson gets similar chances.

Marquee
2.7K
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7.2K
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about 17 years

I thought Monty worked really hard, but I'm not convinced he is suited to play where he was deployed.  Then again, he's not really a big target man either, so it's up to the coach to find him a spot where he can score or create chances for others.

Phoenix Academy
88
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260
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over 6 years

theprof wrote:

he's a striker not a winger yeah?

He actually prefers to play behind the striker or on the wing. Basically in the 3 of a 3-1 

Marquee
3.3K
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5.1K
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about 13 years

Confirmation that he has been released by Ipswich http://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town-release-m...

valeo
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Legend
4.6K
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18K
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about 17 years

Can't see us signing him...Did OK in the last game prior to injury though.

Marquee
4K
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5.5K
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almost 12 years

He's cheap, a kiwi and better than parkhouse

One in a million
4.2K
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9.5K
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about 17 years

MetalLegNZ wrote:

He's cheap, a kiwi and better than parkhouse

I agree with the kiwi part of it

Lawyerish
1.8K
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4.8K
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over 13 years

I'm going to go back in this thread and find out whom when he was signed compared him to Rojas 

First Team Squad
2.9K
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1.9K
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almost 7 years

He did okay for about 30 minutes when he played centrally as an attacking mid, but just looked slow and definitely didn't seem up to standard

First Team Squad
520
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1K
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over 10 years

Going from almost scoring in a match against Crystal Palace in the FA cup to playing semi pro football and now he is released in the same season.

Starting XI
1.8K
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4.1K
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about 17 years

I'd sign him. He has a lot of promise

Starting XI
1.3K
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2.8K
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about 9 years

reg22 wrote:

I'd sign him. He has a lot of promise

sorry but we don't need (or have time for) players with a lot of promise, we need players that can perform straight away

also from what I've seen of him. I don't agree with you

First Team Squad
1.2K
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1.6K
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over 14 years

reg22 wrote:

I'd sign him. He has a lot of promise

sorry but we don't need (or have time for) players with a lot of promise, we need players that can perform straight away

also from what I've seen of him. I don't agree with you

Regardless of whether Patterson is up to the standard or not, the idea that the Nix should not be signing young New Zealanders that have potential/promise is ridiculous.

Marquee
4.4K
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6.8K
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over 13 years

djtim3000 wrote:

reg22 wrote:

I'd sign him. He has a lot of promise

sorry but we don't need (or have time for) players with a lot of promise, we need players that can perform straight away

also from what I've seen of him. I don't agree with you

Regardless of whether Patterson is up to the standard or not, the idea that the Nix should not be signing young New Zealanders that have potential/promise is ridiculous.

Yes we should be signing Kiwis with good potential but we already have Cacace and Singh in that category. While I have no opinion on Patterson being great or otherwise, I am not sure how many more promising Kiwis we should be signing right now instead of a few more experienced campaigners that we would need to steady our leaky boat.  We cannot be just banking on Kiwi youth alone while we still have the license.  Finishing the season higher than CCM is not a bar I consider high enough for us, regardless of how many seasons we have left.

Marquee
2.1K
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8.2K
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about 17 years

djtim3000 wrote:

reg22 wrote:

I'd sign him. He has a lot of promise

sorry but we don't need (or have time for) players with a lot of promise, we need players that can perform straight away

also from what I've seen of him. I don't agree with you

Regardless of whether Patterson is up to the standard or not, the idea that the Nix should not be signing young New Zealanders that have potential/promise is ridiculous.

I agree - if we won't take a chance on young kiwis I don't know what the point of the Phoenix is

One in a million
4.2K
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9.5K
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about 17 years

james dean wrote:

djtim3000 wrote:

reg22 wrote:

I'd sign him. He has a lot of promise

sorry but we don't need (or have time for) players with a lot of promise, we need players that can perform straight away

also from what I've seen of him. I don't agree with you

Regardless of whether Patterson is up to the standard or not, the idea that the Nix should not be signing young New Zealanders that have potential/promise is ridiculous.

I agree - if we won't take a chance on young kiwis I don't know what the point of the Phoenix is

The point of the Phoenix is to provide a pathway that promising kiwis aspire to

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