Ryan Nelsen (Unattached FC Coach)

 was this where Smith and Boxall were?

Smith was at Toronto from memory

Vancouver Whitecaps for Boxall.

Jared Smith to return to Toronto?

Hmmmmm...Toronto or Wellington.....

Reading the QPR forums whilst they don't want to see him go and the general consenus is that he has been the best player season, they really seem to understand his decision a d wish him well. I don't know if our forum members would have been so forgiving.

Opening home game this season for montreal impact is march 16th vs toronto fc at the olympic stadium. I will be there and especially with 2 canadian teams, there should be over 50000 persons like last season

Actually I am a season ticket holder of Montreal Impact. But still I get regularly news about other canadian teams

qpr will be screwed without him, he's been outstanding for them and in the words of the EPL commentators over the weekend he's been 'by far the best performer for qpr this season'

plenty of time for management ryan and let's face it managing in the MLS is not exactly a huge thing - gavin wilkinson had a spell in charge of portland this season after all (tongue in cheek)

The announcement is early tomorrow morning, could be many people waiting to hear it.

 So there it is.Head coach of TFC.

This is going to be interesting.Might have to get down to Toronto for a game or two this season.

But may still play a part with QPR for the remainder of season.... strange announcement.

time for me to eat some humble pie...

Toronto FC names Ryan Nelsen it's new head coach 

While this is great for Nelsen there's no doubt QPR are getting shafted here. If the MLS season starts on March 9 then he will be required in Canada well before then. The only reason QPR are playing nice at all is because they know the threat to retire is real. It would be one thing for him to break a contract because he genuinely couldn't carry on playing, but to break it just to take another job?

I also can't wait it hear JD's reaction to this as a leading member of the cult of Ryan and remembering his reaction to the Chris Greenacre appointment. What kind of recruitment process did Toronto follow? What coaching experience and qualifications does Nelsen actually have? Sounds like "jobs for the boys" to me!

Toronto could yet be the one's who are shafted here. If QPR keep him for the rest of the season under his contract (as mentioned in Fred Woodcock's article) and TFC have to start without him it is far from ideal for them. Of course TFC will get him in the long term but if you're trying to turn around a bottom-of-the-table side that would be a terrible way to start the season off. In fact it would be less than ideal for any club let alone a struggling one that is 'rebuilding' after an exodus of players/management.

The way this has been done is completely bizarre. Surely you try and close doors before you open new ones? Is this going to result in a bit of a shit fight for Nelsen?

Here's Fred Woodcock's article:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/8157043/Ryan-Nelsen-introduced-as-Toronto-FC-coach 

Yeah, raises a few good questions.

Apparently we don't need to worry about his lack of coaching experience because he's been thinking about being a coach since he's 21!

I've been thinking about playing bass in the Stone Roses since I was 21 Ryan, it didn't make any fucking difference though.

The fact that he hasn't even communicated with NZF yet should raise a few eyebrows. It sounds as though this has been rushed through, we none of QPR, Toronto or NZF having any communication with each other at all. Don't think Ryan has handled this overly well.

No doubt Nelsen will be great at inspirational team talks at Toronto and his man management and motivation will be fine, plus he his good with the media. Its just that coaching is a whole lot more than that. Tactics, recruitment substitutions etc etc are all a huge part of being a successful coach. It is an entirely different game observing from the touch lines and having to make crucial decisions than being a player on the pitch.Huge gamble by Toronto...

.Just about everything I have read about coaching states that good players don't automatically make good coaches....often they totally fail. In our back yard we took on Greenacre....who by his own admission is finding the transition to coaching a huge learning curve. From what I have seen of his efforts with the Academy boys I would totally agree with that. 

Toronto fans don't seem to excited about Nelsen signing.

http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2013/01/ryan-nelsen-named-head-coach

Feels like when I take over a team on Football Manager

Interesting listening to talkback. Its blindsided NZF. 

Since when have NZF ever been a master of communication or organisation? Things have not improved under the new CEO thats for sure.

Sack McKavanagh

Come on JV, Nelsen has to take the lion's share of the responsibility for NZF not being in the loop.

At best, he just didn't think it was that important.

At worst, he's actually enjoying seeing them a little embarrassed.

Either way, it doesn't reflect too well on him. A courtesy call anytime in the past couple of days would have taken 5 mins.

He doesn't give a rats about NZ footy

If John Aloisi can do a semi-decent job here , then Nelsen can do one in the US/Canada.

Think they should make Winston captain. We've got enough good players, we just need to put the performances together. Will we miss him? Yes. Does it mean we don't have quality at the back? No. I think we are missing Elliot in the mids (even hoping we could get Lia in!) and we will miss the leadership, but there are players of quality who now have a chance to step up.

We do have a bit of a generation gap between Nelsen and Elliot and Tommy/Woodsie/Marco/Winnie...Only really Siggie there....

There's a difference between leadership qualities and footballing skill. None of us (I assume) know these players personally, so the decision on who is more suitable for captain should be left up to those that do. Reid is the better footballer, but those in charge at NZF obviously think Smith is a better leader. 

Agree he should have reached out totally and it kinda does add a large dollop of what he thinks about our national setup if not even to give 1 of the Ricki/Fred/Grant/Frank group a call.

It would not surprise me if this was the 'Well you fucked Mick Waite so allow me to retort' message (although Mick Waite would probably not have lasted much longer anyway)

 When did it become compulsory to ring up NZF and tell them your latest footballing move ??

Never. Being the AW captain, you would assume that it would come with the territory though right?

This.