"I haven’t had a chance to talk to the coach or the chairman of New
Zealand Football, and I'll be talking to them very soon," said Nelsen.
When did it become compulsory to ring up NZF and tell them your latest footballing move ??
There's a difference between leadership qualities and footballing skill. None of us (I assume) know these players personally, so the decision on who is more suitable for captain should be left up to those that do. Reid is the better footballer, but those in charge at NZF obviously think Smith is a better leader.
When did it become compulsory to ring up NZF and tell them your latest footballing move ??
When did it become compulsory to ring up NZF and tell them your latest footballing move ??
what a load of BS fellas. You captain your country and are in an important year - you would give them a heads up/discussion that you were (planning to) retire. If you don't then cleary it's beacuse you dont care about playing for your country.
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When did it become compulsory to ring up NZF and tell them your latest footballing move ??
what a load of BS fellas. You captain your country and are in an important year - you would give them a heads up/discussion that you were (planning to) retire. If you don't then cleary it's beacuse you dont care about playing for your country.
When did it become compulsory to ring up NZF and tell them your latest footballing move ??
what a load of BS fellas. You captain your country and are in an important year - you would give them a heads up/discussion that you were (planning to) retire. If you don't then cleary it's beacuse you dont care about playing for your country.
When did it become compulsory to ring up NZF and tell them your latest footballing move ??
what a load of BS fellas. You captain your country and are in an important year - you would give them a heads up/discussion that you were (planning to) retire. If you don't then cleary it's beacuse you dont care about playing for your country.
Maybe he didn't call because nothing was concrete until the announcement was made. The guy has far more important things to worry about and I would be surprised if NZF didn't know he was thinking about retiring/career change.
Inclined to agree with Feverish about this.
Less than professional by Nelsen, who normally prides himself on being just that.
This move raises massive questions over his international future in a very important year for the All Whites.
Angst. Honking even. But you've got to look after #1 I spose.
If he didn't he certainly shouldve told NZF IMO. But players were hinting at his retirement in CHCH anyway so...
I think the depth at centre back is absolutely fine. Reid, Smith, Sigmund, Boxall. Dura I dunno. I'm in two minds about that.
Andy Boyens FTW?
Regardless of how it he communicated it, I'll be gutted if he is out for Nov games. Even if NZF just said look skip March (we really should be ok without him there) and any friendlies please just show up for 2 weekends in Oct/Nov even if he's not playing club stuff. The WC is just so important and he is that important to the team for mine.
Regardless of how it he communicated it, I'll be gutted if he is out for Nov games. Even if NZF just said look skip March (we really should be ok without him there) and any friendlies please just show up for 2 weekends in Oct/Nov even if he's not playing club stuff. The WC is just so important and he is that important to the team for mine.
Sooner or later we were going to have to get use to him not being around, its just come earlier than a lot of us (all of us) had hoped.
The only saving grace is, atleast he plays in a position we are reasonably well stocked in, if her were a midfielder, we'd be even more screwed!!
With Durante coming in, I'm comfortable with our options in defence, but I will miss Nelsen.
Hopefully he takes a couple NZ bos with him to Toronto.
We assume Durante will be coming in. Nothing is a given until he says 'I'm elligible and want to be picked'
Grumpy old bastard alert
Why are people funny about Andrew Durante playing for NZ but fine with Tommy Smith and Michael McGlinchey doing the same?
I think it's because Smith and MacGlinchey never accepted a call up to their other national teams, Durante did.
I think it's because Smith and MacGlinchey never accepted a call up to their other national teams, Durante did.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
I think it's because Smith and MacGlinchey never accepted a call up to their other national teams, Durante did.
I don't think we can't be too precious about this. One of the major reasons (apart from Ryan) why the all whites performed so well at the world cup were Reid, Smith and to a lesser extent Fallon (who however got them there). No one has a bad thing to say about them now apart from the mugs who bash Fallon( from what I can see due to his religious beliefs). All played for other countries at age group level and it is fair to say those countries were probably their first choice (if they had got picked or had qualified for the world cup). Durante has done his time in Wellington and I believe is applying for citizenship - He appears an honourable man and if he believes his heart is here, that is more then good enough for me.
I'm very happy to have Dura the Kiwi
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
I don't think we can't be too precious about this. One of the major reasons (apart from Ryan) why the all whites performed so well at the world cup were Reid, Smith and to a lesser extent Fallon (who however got them there). No one has a bad thing to say about them now apart from the mugs who bash Fallon( from what I can see due to his religious beliefs). All played for other countries at age group level and it is fair to say those countries were probably their first choice (if they had got picked or had qualified for the world cup). Durante has done his time in Wellington and I believe is applying for citizenship - He appears an honourable man and if he believes his heart is here, that is more then good enough for me.
Three for me, and two for them.
Why are people funny about Andrew Durante playing for NZ but fine with Tommy Smith and Michael McGlinchey doing the same?
Grumpy old bastard alert
Why are people funny about Andrew Durante playing for NZ but fine with Tommy Smith and Michael McGlinchey doing the same?
Heard a quote from Ben Sigmund on the news saying he believes Durante is interested. But agree about waiting to hear it from Durante.
We dont know that Nelsen is officially out of this years games yet either.
a swag of current all whites have accepted calls to play for other nations, albeit at youth level
smith and fallon (england), mcglinchey (scotland), reid (denmark)
herbert wasn't taking calls when veitch tried to talk to him
he's being made a fool of and i can't help but think that ryan's having a wee chuckle about this
ryan wasn't going to last much longer anyway. he rarely trains and is constantly on the verge of breaking down permanently.
herbert wasn't taking calls when veitch tried to talk to him
he's being made a fool of and i can't help but think that ryan's having a wee chuckle about this
Sadly, this. More likely is that he just doesn't care that he has dropped NZF in it but I think a good chunk of the latter as well.
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The more I read about this the more it reflects really poorly on Nelsen. According to his mouthpiece (I mean journalist) he was able to speak to him last night but he hasn't been able to get hold of Herbert or Van Hattum. I wonder if he asked how hard he had tried? Pretty confident than Herbert or people within NZF would have been pretty keen to get a call from him yesterday.
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Why are people funny about Andrew Durante playing for NZ but fine with Tommy Smith and Michael McGlinchey doing the same?
LOL
Why are people funny about Andrew Durante playing for NZ but fine with Tommy Smith and Michael McGlinchey doing the same?
Wouldn't announcing that you want to retire from playing and accepting a coaching position indirectly advise NZF that you won't be available to play international football. Surely NZF wouldn't be stupid enough to A. wonder whether he still wants to play or B. even select him considering he is no longer playing at club level.
I agree that he should have told them out of courtesy but the whole appointment to Toronto appears to have been a whirlwind process and was probably number 1 on his mind.
Wouldn't announcing that you want to retire from playing and accepting a coaching position indirectly advise NZF that you won't be available to play international football. Surely NZF wouldn't be stupid enough to A. wonder whether he still wants to play or B. even select him considering he is no longer playing at club level.
I agree that he should have told them out of courtesy but the whole appointment to Toronto appears to have been a whirlwind process and was probably number 1 on his mind.
Should have been a matter of Courtesy really..... Yes a busy time but how long would this have taken...
"Hi Ricki, Ryan here
I have had an opportunity come up to Manage in the MLS, and unfortunately will result in bringing forward retirement effective immediately.
At the Airport right now about to get on a plane but will be in touch soon.
Cheers"
About a minute including dialling I reckon.