New record for an A-League round.. 93, 500
2012/13 A-League attendances
Round 1:
Melbourne vs Heart - 42,032
Wellington vs Sydney - 12,057
Western Sydney vs Central Coast - 10,458
Newcastle vs Adelaide - 14,868
Perth vs Brisbane - 14,085
Round 1 total: 93,500 (Rd.1 2011/12: 79,850)
Round 1 average: 18,700 (Rd.1 2011/12: 15,970)
Season total: 93,500
Season average: 18,700
Round 2:
Adelaide vs Western Sydney -
Sydney vs Newcastle -
Brisbane vs Melbourne -
Heart vs Wellington -
Central Coast vs Perth -
Attendances 2012 / 13 season
No GCU will gaurantee a higher average crowd this season.
Was it the podacst or JD who was saying that the WSW crowd needed to be big to be sustainable?
Podcast, was something like "if they don't beat our opening crowd they might as well pack it in then and there"
Was it the podacst or JD who was saying that the WSW crowd needed to be big to be sustainable?
Saleable
wonder what the percentage of people for the nix game bought tickets but got scared away by the sudden shit weather?
Small kiddies is understandable, but if I'd shelled out close to $30 (inc ticketek rort) for a ticket I'd go along*. Regardless I am very disappointed with this turnout on our first game of the season.
Bunch of Wgtn b******d pussies.
We've got people like C-Diddy making real sacrifices to get to the game (including keeping his pants on in G4L's car) from Wherthewhuckami up north, Kiwi Hatter dragging himself off his deathbed to drink beer and stand fully clothed in the FZ (another sacrifice take note). 60 Nelsonians enduring a jaunt over the Cook Strait to see their lad NOT score and I read in 442 that one brave soul came over from Wainuiomata.
Wellingtonians - you disgust me, you could almost be Aucklanders with your apathy. Sometimes I wish I was from Canterbury (FFS!)
*(obviously the slight flaw in my argument is that I do go along)
Podcast, was something like "if they don't beat our opening crowd they might as well pack it in then and there"
it was Smithy. I'd prefer not to be lumped in with him.
WSW crowd was only a few hundred below Melbourne Heart's first ever game.
Small kiddies is understandable, but if I'd shelled out close to $30 (inc ticketek rort) for a ticket I'd go along*. Regardless I am very disappointed with this turnout on our first game of the season.
Bunch of Wgtn b******d pussies.
We've got people like C-Diddy making real sacrifices to get to the game (including keeping his pants on in G4L's car) from Wherthewhuckami up north, Kiwi Hatter dragging himself off his deathbed to drink beer and stand fully clothed in the FZ (another sacrifice take note). 60 Nelsonians enduring a jaunt over the Cook Strait to see their lad NOT score and I read in 442 that one brave soul came over from Wainuiomata.
Wellingtonians - you disgust me, you could almost be Aucklanders with your apathy. Sometimes I wish I was from Canterbury (FFS!)
*(obviously the slight flaw in my argument is that I do go along)
Wellingtonians are notoriously bad for walking up at the last minute and buying a ticket, we wait to see what the weatehr is like before we turn up. The last minute storm probably killed a good 3-4k people bothering. I got to the station at 6:40pm on saturday and the queue for tickets was massive.
Yep, can't disagree with you, but:
- We have had a very stable off-season, with some great pre-season form.
- We have recruited well
- We have the most affordable ticket prices (gate or season) in a long time
- We have had a reasonable PR build up (and a good one via the Dom Post)
- Our first game had ADP as a draw card (yes - limited reach to most but it does generate publicity and curiosity)
There's very little to complain about leading up to the game.
What's going against this?
- The weather (and that we're a bunch of pussies)
- Wgtn is in more of a recession than many other places
- We only turn up for finals footy?
If any of these are significant factors then we might as well pack football in for Wgtn - shift it to ChCh. They seem to be a bit more like Melbournians and support their sports (of all codes).
Melbourne vs Heart - 42,032 Population 4,170,000 = 1%
Wellington vs Sydney - 12,057 Population 397000 = 3%
Western Sydney vs Central Coast - 10,458 Population 4,627,000 = less than 1%
Newcastle vs Adelaide - 14,868 Population 553,000 = 2%
Perth vs Brisbane - 14,085 Population 1,739,000 = less than 1%
Is our crowd so bad - All blacks playing over night.
Bums on seats or lucrative sponsorship/tv deals = saleable/sustainable.
Last year was 10k to break even which we didn't. Our opening game pulls in a large-ish crowd which then tapers off and picks up again when we get close to finals footy.
Think you're only meant to count Western Sydney, not all of Sydney...
Last season.
Melbourne vs Heart - 42,032 Population 4,170,000 = 1%
Wellington vs Sydney - 12,057 Population 397000 = 3%
Western Sydney vs Central Coast - 10,458 Population 4,627,000 = less than 1%
Newcastle vs Adelaide - 14,868 Population 553,000 = 2%
Perth vs Brisbane - 14,085 Population 1,739,000 = less than 1%
Is our crowd so bad - All blacks playing over night.
If any of these are significant factors then we might as well pack football in for Wgtn - shift it to ChCh. They seem to be a bit more like Melbournians and support their sports (of all codes).
Not only the best crowd the best weekend for TV rating... in Australia alone an average of 108, 000 per match...
From an FFA release http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/news-display/record-breaking-weekend-for-hyundai-a-league/49843
Good article on the roar ... quotes much of the above release...
http://www.theroar.com.au/2012/10/08/the-a-leagues-record-breaking-first-week/
A media release from the FFA earlier today brought nothing but good news for those of us that love football – informing us of the record-breaking first week of the season that has just passed.
The previous records for aggregate attendance, as well as both TV and digital viewing numbers were all shattered; and to me, it’s clear that the star power the A-League generated in the off-season through a few brilliant signings has paid immediate dividends.
I’m the last person that would ever get involved in a code war; I’m a Rabbitohs member, a devoted Hawks fan and hell, I’ve even been getting into the ITM Cup for the last couple of years (go Taranaki!).
But as someone that has adored football his entire life and watched it be kicked around by supporters of other codes who’ve yet to grasp that you can like more than one sport, this is some sweet vindication.
When Sydney signed Alessandro Del Piero, there was nothing but joy from football lovers…and yet oddly enough, there was an equal amount of cynicism from others I spoke to that don’t particular care for the round ball game.
A Rugby League forum I post on (which has a football sub-forum which is home to many knowledgeable fans that appreciate more than one sport) saw the anti-football zealots out in force, claiming that “nobody’s ever heard of this guy” and that he was washed-up, over the hill etc.
Sydney may not have won on the weekend, but that’s not the point. Aside from the fact that we never win in Wellington, Del Piero was the best player in a losing team by an absolute mile. But even if he wasn’t, the importance of his signing goes well beyond his considerable ability on the pitch.
To quote the aforementioned press release; “This season the Hyundai A-League will be seen in territories across the globe with live matches taken throughout Asia including Hong Kong, Singapore, Myanmar, in Italy via Mediaset and the USA with both One World Sport and Fox Soccer Channel while weekly highlights will be broadcast in the UK through Sky Sports.”
To provide some perspective – there were Juventus fans having their morning coffee, reading about Silvio Berluscone’s latest indiscretion and settling in to watch Sydney play Wellington.
To even imagine that Italians would have been watching our poxy little A-League six months ago would have seen far-fetched. It was probably as confusing a thought as these new viewers felt on Saturday, trying to work out how Terry McFlynn is paid to play football.
There were over 107,000 views on the A-League and corresponding club websites across the weekend, up 25% from last year’s record. This number will continue to grow with the network of global television viewers.
But even in our own backyard, things are picking up. 108,000 was the average audience for a game this weekend, absolutely destroying the round one figures from last year by a cool 38%. Whether it’s Del Piero, Heskey or the presence of a new team that actually has fans, people are starting to take notice.
Oh and finally, the games themselves. 93,500 people turned up to the five fixtures, beating the old record by around 6,000 people.
With a new TV deal looming for the A-League, this is kind of positive press that we needed to continue the growth of our domestic league, and football in Australia as a whole.
The more money that can be generated in the next deal may provide the clubs with more marquee slots, a higher salary cap and perhaps down the line, room for a second professional tier.
But let’s not get too far ahead of ourselves. For now, it’s just great that the yield is finally matching the quality of the product.
I’ve been saying since season one that every year, the crowds have gotten worse, but the standard of play has gotten better. I guess this is the year the scales finally tip.
And as Ben Buckley said, we’re looking for more crowd records to be broken when Sydney host Newcastle on Sunday. Short of Del Piero and Heskey being ruled out through coincidental mishaps (as we’ve seen in the famous ‘Softball’ episode of The Simpsons, it is possible), I think the 33,458 against the Victory in 2008 could be under a real threat.
But probably not the 80,295 against Beckham’s LA Galaxy.
Don't worry junior, Auckland will come to the party and bump the average crowd figure up by a few thousand again this year
Of course.
The home of football.
How could I forget?
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If any of these are significant factors then we might as well pack football in for Wgtn - shift it to ChCh. They seem to be a bit more like Melbournians and support their sports (of all codes).
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If any of these are significant factors then we might as well pack football in for Wgtn - shift it to ChCh. They seem to be a bit more like Melbournians and support their sports (of all codes).
Well played!
However any fleeting thoughts of being a Mainlander are only irrational red (& black) mist moments which pass. I spent many years down there and don't have any desire to be back any time soon (or later). As for being a tard. Well - that's almost as bad as calling someone a Dorklander.
Wellington till I die (or get a better job offer elsewhere).
TV - Ratings ... Australian only ... does YF know how to get NZ TV ratings ...
Ratings for HAL2012-13 Week1
Melbourne Victory v Melbourne Heart – 129,000
Western Sydney Wanderers v Central Coast Mariners – 124,000
Wellington Phoenix V Sydney FC - 109, 000
Perth Glory v Brisbane Roar – 102,000
Newcastle Jets v Adelaide United – 77,000
Average for the round 108,200
Just adding my tho's if the Nix's move .... HHHHHMMMMMmmmm the true heartland .. Northland and the beautiful city of Whangarei ...
Loo-e
Best place to find NZ TV ratings is http://www.throng.co.nz/tag/ratings/.
We had 31,770 watch the Nix game, there are no figures for any of the other games in the round.
Best place to find NZ TV ratings is http://www.throng.co.nz/tag/ratings/.
We had 31,770 watch the Nix game, there are no figures for any of the other games in the round.
Looked at the throng before I posted cannot find were they rate payTV .... if you have the link I would be forever in your debt ... errrrrrrrr maybe going over the top a bit ... but I would be very grateful ...
The correct phrase is "kudos to you. I'll by you a beer when I'm next in town."
They rate PayTV within the article for the ratings of a day, I found the Nix game under Most Watched on Sky Sport 2 on this page: http://www.throng.co.nz/2012/10/tv-ratings-6-october-2012/
TV - Ratings ... Australian only ... does YF know how to get NZ TV ratings ...
Ratings for HAL2012-13 Week1
Melbourne Victory v Melbourne Heart – 129,000
Western Sydney Wanderers v Central Coast Mariners – 124,000
Wellington Phoenix V Sydney FC - 109, 000
Perth Glory v Brisbane Roar – 102,000
Newcastle Jets v Adelaide United – 77,000
Average for the round 108,200
Those numbers strike me as very small.
TV - Ratings ... Australian only ... does YF know how to get NZ TV ratings ...
Ratings for HAL2012-13 Week1
Melbourne Victory v Melbourne Heart – 129,000
Western Sydney Wanderers v Central Coast Mariners – 124,000
Wellington Phoenix V Sydney FC - 109, 000
Perth Glory v Brisbane Roar – 102,000
Newcastle Jets v Adelaide United – 77,000
Average for the round 108,200
Those numbers strike me as very small.
They are payTV numbers and an AFL match gets from 130K to about 200K ...
FTA TV is different and both the NRL & AFL rate close to one million per game...
ClearlynPay TV penetration in NZ is much higher than in Aus based on those numbers.
Hard News
Just a couple of articles on payTV rating in Australia..... hope it gives some guidance as to why these figures are so impressive given the AFL has a 1.25 million dollar media deal..
Super Rugby and the A-League over the last few seasons more often than not have the A-League winning ... both articles looks at our grand final weekend 2011 & 2012...
The second link is a typical week ..... it shows the top 100 payTV shows ... I have tried to show all the sporting shows by pushing out their viewers ...
However to average over 100K [especially if you consider relative media coverage] is quite high...
http://www.theroar.com.au/2012/04/23/a-league-strong-but-afl-continues-tv-ratings-dominance/
In a weekend of no live pay TV NRL coverage, the Friday night St Kilda vs Fremantle game was the top ratings sports event, with 271,000 national viewers.
The Saturday Adelaide vs GWS Giants game was watched by 194,000 viewers, while West Coast Eagles vs Hawthorn received 160,000 viewers.
Also on Saturday the Waratahs vs Rebels match was watched 149,000 viewers, a rare entry this season for Australian Super Rugby TV figures to crack the 100,000 viewer mark.
Ratings for Super Rugby have suffered in 2012 thanks to the lack of a strong and successful Australian side like the title-winning Queensland Reds of last year.
The AFL has continued to rate well on Fox Sports, sharing top billing throughout the season with the NRL.
Each week the NRL and AFL have dominated the highest ratings spots.
Yesterday the A-League grand final was watched by an audience of 200,600, a decent figure when compared to the 2011 and 2010 grand finals.
But it was not the top-rating sports program on pay TV on Sunday, with the Geelong vs Richmond and Melbourne vs Bulldogs matches pulling in 224,100 and 209,500 each respectively.
In 2011 the A-league grand final was watched by 204,000 viewers while the 2010 edition had an audience of 176,000.
Yesterday the grand final post-game show watched by 156,700 and the pre-game show was watched by 52,400
You may find this link interesting http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2011/03/pay-tv-ratings-week-12.html
1 Live: NRL Bulldogs V Wests Tigers Fox Sports 2 .... 245,000
2 Live: NRL Wests Tigers V Warriors Fox Sports 2 .....208,000
3 Live: Football: A-League Grand Final Fox Sports 3...... 204,000
4 Live: Cricket: ICC World Cup: Aus V Ken S1 Fox Sports 3 ......177,000
5 Live: NRL Storm V Titans Fox Sports 2 .......174,000
6 Live: Cricket: ICC World Cup: Aus V Can S1 Fox Sports 3..... 157,000
7 Live: NRL Raiders V Sharks Fox Sports 2 ........133,000
8 Live: NRL Cowboys V Knights Fox Sports 2 .........117,000
9 Live: Cricket: ICC World Cup: Aus V Pak Fox Sports 3...... 116,000
10 Live: NRL Monday Post Game Show Fox Sports 2 ........83,000
11 Live: Super Rugby: Reds V Rebels Fox Sports 1....... 79,000
12 Live: Cricket: ICC World Cup: Aus V Ken S2 Fox Sports 3........69,000
13 Live: Cricket: ICC World Cup: Eng V Wi Fox Sports 3....... 67,000
14 Live: NRL Saturday Pre Game Show Fox Sports 2..... 66,000
15 Live: Super Rugby: Waratahs V Cheetahs Fox Sports 1..... 63,000
16 Live: Cricket: ICC World Cup: Pre Match Fox Sports 3.... 62,000
17 Live: NRL Pre Game Show Fox Sports 2..... 56,000
18 Live: Super Rugby Pre-Game Fox Sports 1.... 55,000
19 Live: Super Rugby: Chiefs V Sharks Fox Sports 1... 53,000
20 Live: Football: A-League Pre Game Show Fox Sports 3.... 51,000
21 Live: Super Rugby: Highlanders V Crus Fox Sports 1.... 50,000
22 Shake It Up! Disney Channel ....49,000
23 Live: Cricket: ICC World Cup: Aus V Can S2 Fox Sports 3 ..... 48,000
24 Selling Houses Australia Extreme Lifestyle Channel ....48,000
25 Live: NRL On Fox Fox Sports 2 .... 47,000
26 Live: Super Rugby: Blues V Hurricanes Fox Sports 1 ..... 47,000
27 Live: Football: Matchday Special Fox Sports 3 .....47,000
28 Moonraker Fox Classics .... 40,000
29 Live: Cricket: ICC World Cup: Aus V Ken Fox Sports 3 .... 40,000
30 CBS News Sky News .... 40,000
31 Tinker Bell And The Great Fairy Rescue Playhouse Disney .... 39,000
32 The Book Of Eli Showtime Premiere .... 38,000
33 Lunchtime Agenda Sky News .... 38,000
34 Live: The League Lounge Fox Sports 2 ....37,000
35 Dcom: High School Musical Disney Channel ...37,000
36 ABC World News Sky News 37,000
37 Raceday Saturday Sky Racing 37,000
38 Roary The Racing Car Nick Jr. 35,000
39 Showbiz Sky News 35,000
40 Crime Investigation Australia Crime & Investigation 35,000
41 A View To A Kill Fox Classics 34,000
42 Australian Agenda Sky News 34,000
43 Christchurch National Memorial Sky News 34,000
44 Late Agenda With Helen Dalley Sky News 34,000
45 Live: NRL Super Saturday Preview Fox Sports 2 33,000
46 Harriet The Spy: Blog Wars Disney Channel 33,000
47 News Day Sky News 33,000
48 Sky World News Sky News 33,000
49 National Press Club: Ross Garnaut Sky News 32,000
50 Carl Barron: Whatever Comes Next Comedy Channel 32,000
51 Marple: Why Didn’t They Ask Evans 13th Street 32,000
52 Good Luck Charlie Disney Channel 32,000
53 Live: Rugby League: Toyota Cup Fox Sports 2 32,000
54 Britain’s Next Top Model Fox8 31,000
55 Lewis UKTV 31,000
56 PM Agenda Sky News 31,000
57 The Simpsons Fox8 31,000
58 For Your Eyes Only Fox Classics 31,000
59 Live: Cricket: ICC World Cup: Can V NZ Fox Sports 1.... 31,000
60 I’m In The Band Disney Channel 30,000
61 Tinker Bell And The Great Fairy Rescue Disney Channel 30,000
62 Live: Cricket: ICC World Cup: Ire V RSA Fox Sports 3 .... 30,000
63 AM Agenda Sky News 30,000
64 The Cleveland Show Fox8 30,000
65 Live: Cricket: ICC World Cup: NZ V Sri Fox Sports 3 ..... 30,000
66 Planet Of The Apes Fox Classics 30,000
67 Live: Football: EPL Tottenham V West Ham Fox Sports 1 ... 29,000
68 Beneath The Planet Of The Apes Fox Classics 29,000
69 Pair Of Kings Disney Channel 29,000
70 Grand Designs Australia Lifestyle Channel 29,000
71 Octopussy Fox Classics 28,000
72 American Idol Fox8 28,000
73 Rambo III Showtime Action 28,000
74 Bonanza Fox Classics 28,000
75 Midsomer Murders UKTV 28,000
76 Best Undressed Lifestyle You 28,000
77 Donna Hay – Fast, Fresh, Simple Lifestyle Channel 28,000
78 Cricket: World Series Classics Fox Sports 3 28,000
79 Live: The Rugby Club Fox Sports 2 27,000
80 NZ Prime News Sky News 27,000
81 Live: AFL 360 Fox Sports 1 ..... 27,000
82 Live: NRL Monday Pre Game Show Fox Sports 2 ...27,000
83 World’s Strictest Parents USA Lifestyle Channel 27,000
84 Coronation Street UKTV 27,000
85 The Core Showtime Action 27,000
86 Law & Order: SVU TV1 27,000
87 Tooth Fairy Showtime Premiere 26,000
88 Beneath The Planet Of The Apes Fox Classics+2 26,000
89 My MTV: Jersey Shore MTV 26,000
90 Hannah Montana Forever Disney Channel 26,000
91 WWE Raw Fox8 25,000
92 Never Say Never Again Fox Classics 25,000
93 Neighbours From Hell Fox8 25,000
94 Family Guy Fox8 25,000
95 Big Time Rush Nickelodeon 25,000
96 Celebrity Apprentice Fox8 25,000
97 Outback Wildlife Rescue Lifestyle Channel 25,000
98 Secret Millionaire Lifestyle Channel 25,000
99 Megafactories: Ferrari National Geographic 24,000
100 Doctor Who UKTV 24,000
Round 2
TV Ratings
Ade v WSyd 90k
Sydney v Newc 156k
Bris v Mel 101k
Heart V Nix 73k
Mariner V PG 78K
Average 99K
Crowds:
Adelaide vs Western Sydney - 8,950
Sydney vs Newcastle - 35,419
Brisbane vs Melbourne - 17,364
Heart vs Wellington - 10,907
Central Coast vs Perth - 9,192
Average 16, 366
Seriously?
61 Tinker Bell And The Great Fairy Rescue Disney Channel 30,000
...
100 Doctor Who UKTV 24,000
Bunch of feckin convicts.
Worth noting the Rd 2 crowd was the highest ever when MV has not played ..
This round 81,832 total. next is 70,322 back in season 2
On the Rd 1 it was the first time we've ever had 5 fixtures drawing over 10,000+ for each. It's also safe to assume it's the highest drawing A-League weekend of all time.
Here are the rounds across the years which have had each team draw higher than the 5-figure mark. There have been nine occasions in totalNote: all of them are from the 8 team era bar last weekend.
It really does point to signs that this year will be a positive one for crowds.
05-06 R1
Perth v CCM 11,113
Newcastle v Adelaide 13,160
Queensland V NZK 20,725
Sydney v Melbourne 25,208
06-07 R4
Queensland v NZK 15,517
Adelaide v Perth 11,474
Sydney v Newcastle 15,488
Melbourne v CCM 17,617
06-07 R6
Melbourne v Queensland 25,622
Sydney v Newcastle 13,755
Adelaide v CCM - 11019
Wellington v Perth 10,127
06-07 R9
Newcastle v Queensland 12,326
Sydney v Adelaide 12,922
Wellington v CCM 10,560
Melbourne v Perth 25,598
06-07 R10
Melbourne v Newcastle 27,123
Queensland v Perth 16,715
Sydney v CCM 17,652
Adelaide v Wellington 11,740
07-08 R14
Adelaide v Perth 10,678
Melbourne v Wellington 20,938
Newcastle v CCM 14,169
Sydney v Qld 16,569
08-09 R1
Newcastle v CCM 16022
Sydney v Melbourne 16,227
Wellington v Qld 10,516
Adelaide v Perth 10,510
08-09 R17
Newcastle v CCM 11,413
Perth v Adelaide 12,581
Melbourne v Sydney 25,398
Queensland v Wellington 13,115
12-13 R1
Melbourne v Heart 42,032
Wellington v Sydney 12,057
WSW v Central Coast 10,458
Newcastle v Adelaide 14,868
Week 3 Pay TV Ratings to date in Australia...
Melbourne Victory v Adelaide United - 102,000
Newcastle Jets v Central Coast Mariners - 78,000
Western Sydney Wanderers v Sydney FC - 102,000
Perth Glory v Melbourne Heart nib Stadium -
Wellington Phoenix v Brisbane Roar
It still very solid. Wallabies got 236k.
We beat the other home team playing on Sunday in attendance. Nix 9,182. Perth 7,548