HoG - TIme for NZ World Cup Bid

Time is not your friend here. I can't be any more honest than that. To be 100% sure, you'd have to check FIFA documentation regarding bid timeframes and so on. Like I said earlier, bidding nations had to already submit technical information to FIFA last December (2009).

FFA is using Australian Government money ($A45 Million) to fund this 2-for-1 world cup bid, if NZ comes into it at a late stage then surely the NZ Government (or NZF if they want) would have to part-bid for the show as well.

Lowy has been dealing with the Australian Government (of all forms) since he came in, back in 2003, in fact the Aus Govt's initial $15 million grant to rebuild soccer in Aus was conditional on Lowy being Chairman of Soccer in Australia.

The idea is noble, but I can't see how logistically (and politically) it would work, you'd need to get NZ Government and NZ Football backing (and funding) organised, I can't see it happening giving the timeframes available.
diego's son2010-02-02 01:02:23

On todays blog - Marius while I don't entirely disagree with your sentiment I think in places the Blog comes across as a little bit petty. To me what matters is that the RWC will be wonderful for NZ, Immigration NZ recorded a 25,000 jump on the June before of people coming into the country when the Lions were here in 05 - we can expect all that and more! The country will gain exposure to markets that don't necessarily see as a first choice venue and that can only be good aswell.

It isn't though

I didn't.

I gotta wonder.... if the Rugby World Cup is as big of a deal as the IRB and NZ media like to say it is, why is it being hosted by New Zealand when it's acknowledged by the IRB itself that this country cannot run the tournament and still make a profit, and will have comparatively low attendances even if every match sells out due to the lack of stadium capacity in the country?

I'm looking forward to the RWC and will probably travel to go support Canada, and I think the blog post in question was a bit un-necessary and a bad look for the football community. But I still think the idea of the RWC being #3 is a joke.

Rob the IRB is guaranteed a sum by RNZ2011 and NZRU, they do not make a loss off it. RNZ do and this loss is underwritten by NZRU and NZ Govt. So your argument does not really wash. IRB make the money to run the game for the next 4 years off RWC

guys, the head of fairfax sport said it was daft to describe the RWC as 3rd biggest. and bc i think the euros are bigger and bc i write a football blog I have decided to point that out. It wasnt an anti rugby or anti RWC blog (it was anti the spin surrounding it). Im not responsible for the fact NZers go feral everytime you mention rugby and football in the same sentence, and im certainly not going to avoid addressing issues that involve both codes bc of it.

Well good luck to NZRFU with their World Cup.

While in the past I have been to S12/S14 games and one NPC game back in 1983 (NOT a good introduction to the game) and watch tests on TV. I now have to truthfully admit that I will probably take very little interset in the event in 2011 and probably totally ignore the sport in 2010.

I certainly don't wish any ill towards that sport, but it bores the pants off me now. Even back in the S12 days with full crowds in Arthritic Park or the Cake Tin the atmosphere doesn't come anywhere close to a nix game with 8k - 12k mad nix fans.

Would be good to see what stats there are to refute or confirm the supposed ranking of the RWC but I think it is huge journo licence to make that claim without any data/stats.

Sam, someone needs to say this kind of thing.  Our media is deferential to Rugby and because we have few if any actual sports commentators other than Chris Rattue these kind of things aren't pointed out. Here in the UK media commentators are constantly challenging commonly held beliefs about their favoured sports but also about others.  Our media is largely fact based but comment and op-ed opinion pieces are what will make stuff stand out.  I guess what I am saying is keep up the good work.

Heres a good item by cnn, its comparing the superbowl to the worlds top events. Eg Football, Basketbal, Olympics baseball. etc etc Rugby doesnt get a mention.

"How, then, is the Super Bowl the bastion of ad revenue when it comes to world sports?

"It's giving you a huge audience in the world's richest country," Alavy said."

This is pretty unfair, Football gets one or two ad breaks a match (and exactly when everyone goes to get a drink) The Superbowl gets one every 10 seconds.
Michael2010-02-06 17:45:34

I think we should go for the Women's World Cup Tournament. It would far better to obtain and control the logistics. We would have the ideal country setting for it as well. There are advantages to to have an international tournament at that level in our smaller country population with enough venues of quality to suit. It would get us to see the how well the cameras and the environment setting can stack up to the rest of the world as well. The coverage would be awesome demonstration to the capabilities of what NZ has to offer in future events and would weights us how well we can do for a men's tournament. I doubt we would get the mens unless it was jointed with Australia because of the sheer cost, but the women's can be done with little hassle.AllWhitebelievr2010-02-12 23:03:31

Anyone read Martin Sneedin piece at stuff's website today?

I've seen a similar stat based on the last rugby world cup. I haven't read the stuff article to see how he's worded it, but I understand that the 4 billion is across all games e.g. if you individually watch 2 matches, that's 2 views. Hence, 4 billion views but not 4 billion *people*. Hopefully I explained the difference okay? SiNZ2010-02-14 18:00:28

Marius Lacatus wrote:

guys, the head of fairfax sport said it was daft to describe the RWC as 3rd biggest. and bc i think the euros are bigger and bc i write a football blog I have decided to point that out. It wasnt an anti rugby or anti RWC blog (it was anti the spin surrounding it). Im not responsible for the fact NZers go feral everytime you mention rugby and football in the same sentence, and im certainly not going to avoid addressing issues that involve both codes bc of it.[/QUOTE]

I got an email from the Rugby Union. I asked how they could say thaf the Rugby WWorld Cup is that big. Their reply  is  [quote]

Thank you for your email & interest in Rugby World Cup 2011.

 

This claim is based on three figures:

1.         Total attendance

2.       Number of international visitors

3.        Cumulative TV audience

That's it..? 

1. its a possibility i suppose. if you exclude "leagues" (e.g. NBA, Premiership) as not being "events", which is reasonable, it would have to be close. Behind FIFA world cup, olympics but dont know how would compare to European champs (prob quite similar as similar no of games) or winter olympics. The other one to consider is the IPL. its really a tournment style event and its attendances would be right up there.

Marius Lacatus2010-04-13 14:48:03

NCAA final four is bigger than the RWC.
It is only 3 games and more people watch it than the RWC.
How many in China watch RWC? But they love Basketball.

I <3 the final four.