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Its Summer! - the Fever Cricket Thread. (Part 1)

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simon_hampton wrote:

Ok, Redmond is genuinly sh*t and I don't even know why he ever made the Blackcaps. FC average of only 31, 7 centuries in 136 innings against our FC bowlers. Thats not International quality. And a test average of only 17 backs that up. Fulton for Redmond 2nd test. And I wish Styris hadn't retired from tests, why the f**k did Bracewell drop him last summer.

36/2 at tea. Our two best batsmen at the crease, they better score big.


our selectors aren't international quality.

can we play this game ohh, styris vincent fleming macca bondy astle
add to that injuries to oram and franklin

ahh anyway. still think they need to bump the stroke makers down one and have a number 3 with some grit. Pity How failed twice coming in on good form.


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How is the most frustrating one, Redmond just isn't good enough but Jamie How is! He has the ability to score good runs and doesn't. This test he has got two good balls so a little bit unlucky.
And Martin i think Flynn is a long term number three. Let him settle at this level and then move him up the orderbopman2008-11-22 18:04:09

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bopman wrote:
How is the most frustrating one, Redmond just isn't good enough but Jamie How is! He has the ability to score good runs and doesn't. This test he has got two good balls so a little bit unlucky.
And Martin i think Flynn is a long term number three. Let him settle at this level and then move him up the order


I think that is exactly what hasn't happened with both Taylor and How! both have the technique, but are far from ready to be the mainstay of a test line up. Has Fulton been so woefully off form?


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Over the last two years we have had 7 innings that have lasted 4hrs or more with 2 of those being over 5hrs. One of them was Stephen Fleming who doesn't play anymore and another was Matt Bell who is dropped. Full table:
 
We have also only scored 5 centuries in the past 5 years. Oram has two, Bell one, and Taylor two. For a team even with us in tests, Sri Lanka have scored 24 centuries in the past two years. Reinforces the fact that our batting is sh*t and we can't bat for long periods of time.
 
By the way, Cricinfo's statsguru is amazing for finding all sorts of statistics.
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FFS.
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Three jellies down one to go.
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Anyone think we will get to a hundred?

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On a positive note, should be live coverage on the radio of the Phoenix tomorrow. Oh and play McCullum at six or seven.
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Oh for f**ks sake. I break for dinner and come back and we're 49/4. Just plain embarrasing this, its supposed to be a good pitch for batting and we're gonna struggle to make 80.
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simon_hampton wrote:
Oh for f**ks sake. I break for dinner and come back and we're 49/4. Just plain embarrasing this, its supposed to be a good pitch for batting and we're gonna struggle to make 80.


Honestly simon you cant leave these useless twits alone for 5 seconds without them conjuring up some sort of f**k up.

Three for me, and two for them.

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Apart from Fulton and Bell, neither of who I am convinced about, who else is playing first class cricket in NZ that is good enough or even could be good enough? Sinclair?.John Bracewell has a lot to answer for when it comes to the premature retirement of guys like Vincent, Fleming and Styris.
This would be a semi decent team:
Vincent, How, Fleming, Styris, Taylor, Flynn/Ryder, Oram, McCullum, Southee/OBrien/Patel, Martin
Even someone like Hamish Marshall, you dont score 150 against the Australians in your second test and not have something about you

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50 for N.Z.
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Turned it off.

I'd rather watch Canberra play Adelaide in the W-League.
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You make a good point there bopman. Not much depth is there. The early retirements are a mystery to me.
The players we do have just don't seem to have the ability to apply themselves at test match cricket. Good one day players.
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Brendon McCullum is not a test batsmans asshole! He thinks its better to score 30 in 30 balls than it is to score 100 in a day the way Richardson could (Waiting for Buffy and E G to jump on the Richardson was sh*t cart). For someone who apparently is so competitive you think he would have figured out the way he plays does not help his team win

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bopman wrote:
Brendon McCullum is not a test batsmans asshole! He thinks its better to score 30 in 30 balls than it is to score 100 in a day the way Richardson could (Waiting for Buffy and E G to jump on the Richardson was sh*t cart). For someone who apparently is so competitive you think he would have figured out the way he plays does not help his team win
 
I think he wants to be like Gilchrist, but even Gilchrist new better than that and new when it was right to be agressive and right to tone it down. McCullum needs to learn that.
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Gilchrist had a cricketers brain your right Simon. Im not sure what is between Brendons ears when he goes out to bat in the whites

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bopman wrote:
Gilchrist had a cricketers brain your right Simon. Im not sure what is between Brendons ears when he goes out to bat in the whites


Gilchrist would bat at 7, and often with a top order including hayden, Langer, Ponting, Martyn, Waugh (either or both), Lehmann or Clarke above.

He also never had John Bracewell as a coach.


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martinb wrote:

bopman wrote:
Gilchrist had a cricketers brain your right Simon. Im not sure what is between Brendons ears when he goes out to bat in the whites
Gilchrist would bat at 7, and often with a top order including hayden, Langer, Ponting, Martyn, Waugh (either or both), Lehmann or Clarke above.He also never had John Bracewell as a coach.

True also

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A lot of our troubles stem from our guys not playing enough test cricket so why dont the powers of NZ Cricket work a calendar for the summer that saw our test team playing state championship for a whole summer. Sure it isnt test quality bowling but its about learning test match skills. Wellington would have a decent test class attack as would Auckland, ND would be alright, CD have been alright for a few years. Let these guys learn the skills required to build good innings

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McCullum used to be brilliant at around 6 or 7 playing an anchor role to the innings in both Tests and ODI's. Dunno what happened but he's been rubbish for a while now.

Three for me, and two for them.

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With the benefit of hindsight for this test and with what was available for over there would have been
How, Redmond, Ryder, Flynn, Taylor, Fulton, McCullum, Vettori, Southee, OBrien, Martin
As I said earlier I dont see the benefit of having Elliot there if he isnt going to play a substantial role with the ball as he isn't a good enough batsman. I would be partial to seeing Flynn get in between Ryder and Taylor if only to break up our 'strokemakers' in the middle order

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Anyone remember the days of Richardson and 50-0? though admittedly he played like sh*te in Brisbane last time.


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martinb wrote:
Anyone remember the days of Richardson and 50-0? though admittedly he played like sh*te in Brisbane last time.

I agree with ya mate but the merits of Richardson has been one of the most debated points amongst we cricket tragics on Yellow Fever

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Yeah i think it's a road best not travelled down again huh bopman?

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These two looking good, 45 run stand. For once though can they push on from 30's and 40's and get hundreds. I'm thinking they'll both get out between 30-50. I'd love to be proved wrong though.
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bopman wrote:
martinb wrote:
Anyone remember the days of Richardson and 50-0? though admittedly he played like sh*te in Brisbane last time.

I agree with ya mate but the merits of Richardson has been one of the most debated points amongst we cricket tragics on Yellow Fever


yep, remember that. well we're better off now aren't we?

ach. we just need to find another failed left arm spinner with the pace of a steamroller going up hill, and teach him how to play 3 shots.


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cough Aaron Redmond cough, he only plays a couple of shots, difference is he plays them badly. we have made 100 and put on a 50 partnership, woweeeeebopman2008-11-22 19:33:27

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wouldn't this be a great win


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martinb wrote:
wouldn't this be a great win


Oh f**k you've done it now *shakes head*

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31.6 Lee to Flynn, FOUR, cracking shot from Flynn to end the over, good line and length from Lee but Taylor flays it past mid-off for a boundary

Cricinfo staffed by drunk monkeys at the moment.

they keep messing up who is on strike. The worst one was when Laxman was nearly at 200 and they called it early and wrong, and spent about 30 seconds going back and re editting all their commentary.


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Wow! 50 off ten overs without a wicket incredible stuff this. 114/4, stand of 65.
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Ross Taylor has that I want to hit you over Cow Corner look in his eyes

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Well he better not get too carried away and throw his wicket away. Stay there till stumps is what these two HAVE to do.
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Its 4/117 we are chasing 327 and Ponting has a third man in? He really isn't a great captain is he?

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bopman wrote:
Its 4/117 we are chasing 327 and Ponting has a third man in? He really isn't a great captain is he?


Ponting is a defence captain. Not like Waugh at all.

Last Gabba test Oram hit a six and everyone was back on the fence, despite how many wickets were down (6 or 7 I think) and how far he cleared the rope by. he just stopped trying to get wickets.
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Yeah i remember that, they kept trying to get Millsy the strike without realising that he is a decent batsman

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4 overs to go, please don't get out. Quite a defensive field set according to Waddle.
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Slater does my head in sometimes. "Now that's out, that's out, ohh no it's not", yeah it's not out cause he got as much wood on it as is in your f**king head.

Also he's given out more plugs than Noel Leeming.
Buffon II2008-11-22 20:01:48

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simon_hampton wrote:
4 overs to go, please don't get out. Quite a defensive field set according to Waddle.

Quite defensive! With the spinners on you would thinks its Tendulkar and Laxman out there on 500/3

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