Things that piss you off...

That's not the point.

So do you think NZ was settled peacefully?

I think that is relatively less violently though, rather than peacefully. 

No, far from that, but the alternative of the fore said Spanish or Portuguese could have been much much more worse.

I dont think you can compare historical events like forrceful takeovers of countries and say one was worse than the other.

Regardless of how much force or violence was used the bottom line is that the people who were there first ultimately have right to the land and displacing them from their land is wrong.

Actually I think you can (varying degrees of brutality and violence).

But the issue was the statement that NZ was settled peacefully.  Which it clearly wasn't.

The other alternative is one where it didn't include rape, assault, land theft, murder, and destruction.

This was pretty peaceful.

http://www.mch.govt.nz/news-events/press-releases/150-years-attack-rangiaowhia-nz-wars

As was Parihaka.

The fact that there is a period of our history called "New Zealand Wars" speaks volumes.

Countdown starting to play Christmas songs whilst we are only in November

Could be worse, better than the adhan.

What's your point AP?  I didn't study history either.

The Warehouse are all tooled up for Christmas too.

Most people came to NZ in the 20th century, well mine did anyway.

9 pound Man U Pom?

Does anyone have a balanced and not just pro-Maori/pro-British study of the wars?

Sorry mate, I'm only 5th generation. After all the peacefulness was over. 

(at the end of the 19th century)

James Bellich

I believe it was 10 pounds but no my parents paid their own way. And not from Manchester, or even close.   :)

thanks

Just reading, (online so who knows), about the musket wars where Moari butchered each other supplied by those dastardly Brits. Interesting policy selling guns to the natives to wipe each other out - that shit is as old as the hills but I'm guessing it sort of backfired?

Well he used to like pork and now he is anti it.

F*cking hell there was some sh*t going down there. Maori need to look at themselves just as much as the Brits.

In war, there are no winners.

Irony. England has beaten Germany twice, both away, but Germany is the economic powerhouse of Europe.

(the last time they met England did well to come from behind and get the win and go 6 pts clear) 

Away deaths count twice?

Ned Fucking Zelich 

football commentators who do not know the laws of the game. Watching the Everton v West Ham game and the bloke has spoken of how a player has raised his hands which is a red card offence. As far as I am aware (and no doubt one of the nerds on here will correct me if I am wrong) there is nothing in the LOTG about raising your hands (only violent conduct). Then later in the game he is talking about how Collins should be sent off for the foul in the build up to Everton's 2nd goal as he was the last man. Again, nothing in the LOTG about the last man, only about denying a goal scoring opportunity - as they scored approximately 3 seconds later, I would suggest that he did not. 

As I am typing this, the cunt is still going on about the Collins incident (it is now the 88th minute) and just said that he was denying a goal scoring opportunity. They scored you fucking twat

When The Mistral blows in the south of France, locals believes it causes depression before arriving and then anger and irritability when it blows. Having cycled in that weird NW or NWW that has blown over the last week I can understand this.

Atrocious, not a clean tail wind and bastard of a head wind. 

Over it.

edit: Just seen this about our own NZ wind the Nor'west arch

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nor%27west_arch

The term "clickbait' attributed to every football related article in the Guardian.

Business as usual, so message modified.

The Sky commentators - Andrew Dewhurst and Fred De Bland.

Keyboard warriors and their cronies.

We get you can research a topic using Wikipedia, we get that you need to drag others down to boost your own bizarrely inflated ego, we get you like to hide in the land of Qwerty.

Just admit to being trolls so that we can all accept it for what it is and move on when you decide to apply your Twistie coated fingers to the keys on your PC.

NOTE: This is mostly aimed at Twitter usage. Very few Trolls on Facebook and the ones on here are harmless.

I thought you were having a crack at ACFC fans for a moment :o)

I only have a crack at 3 types of people - Bigots, Non Voters, LFC detractors...so basically everyone in the world except Liberal, Left wing Kopites. 

That made me laugh.