CF Governance

Really? Is this even an issue? I would have thought that this would be the least of his worries.

I agree with Tegal, who cares.

Get back to discussing the issue rather than attacking one person.

This conversation needs to move along from picking apart Chris Canton's playing history. It's neither interesting nor useful.

 

If you have serious things to contribute about his job as CF Chairman then go for it, but if you don't, then shuddup.

Jam2/ whatever he changed his name from and Paulo (via Skype) to get on board?

Feverish did you put your name forward for the one vacant spot?

or do you think your card is marked and the board will use rule 23.4.3 last section to use the unused votes against you?

it would be nice to have some people elected who will say what is happening rather than just resign and let it go under the carpet.

Peculiar how the CF Board refuse to give out even an extract of their meeting minutes to their member clubs IMO.

Also seems members of the Men's Advisory Group not happy at Chris Canton's statement to clubs implying that the MAG recommended an 11 team Cap 1 where in reality their opinion was to the contrary.

Who are the share holders (commonly know as stake holders br RR) who controls who?

 

So are you saying he's telling porkies about what the Men's Advisory Group actually said?

'the Board of CF is of the opinion...the Board has remained impartial and acted professionally"

Tui ad?

twice they have made rulings as per there rules and on both occasions they were told they were wrong by a higher power and told to follow the rules as set for 2013 so i have to agree with the tui

maybe the new board member to be elected will get the ship back on course or is this also a tui ad?

do we know who has applied yet?

nobody has applied for the Board

poor form from the clubs or are you meaning people get nominated not applying for the position ?

democracy only works if there are people who are willing to stand and do the hard yards.

what happened to last years unsuccessful canadate?

Isn't it a breach of the rules for them to not supply meeting minutes to member clubs? Seems absurd to me.

just finished checking out the capital football accounts that someone dropped off for me to look at and it looks like the ship still has issues……

is this great asset of the ASB sports centre really doing football any good? i was told when i questioned this in 2012 that FUTSAL was the winner for CF but it keeps loosing large chunks of coin so is it a winner.

who's been drinking that tiger blood………..

This is probably why the Rapa and Coast boys have had there subs increased…..

and is probably the reason there subs were set lower in the first place as this "ASSET" is of no benefit to them so why are they contributing to make up the loss on this potential white elephant?

Didn't understand a word of that. Don't know what that means.

Feverish, do you know if this is Capital-specific - as I've heard ASB centre is pretty expensive - or across the feds?

Ah I follow now.

My understanding is that futsal is a negative dollar burden but NZF are invested in it because of the skill factor it can teach.

correct me if i am wrong but is not FUTSAL just indoor soccer under a different name?

so if i am correct then why have CF not engaged the privately run programs and built a business model that includes them and cut some of the overheads of rolling out there program like venues and levels of participation payments?

Still sounds an awful lot like indoor football to me. Only difference that I can see is that you can slide tackle and goals scored by females don't count as 2 (terrible sexist rule anyway)

Yeah guess so. Not all indoor football courts do that though. 

Falcao. That is all.

Iniesta, Ronaldo, Ronaldhino?
Rojas? Rogic?
Footballers who played futsal
English FA looks to futsal to produce a Messi

About 75% of current Australian Matilda (football) womens team played futsal at a young age.
If you look through the age group teams coming through NZ now, I would say many have played a reasonable amount of futsal.
If you drop down to NTC level, the percentages are even greater.
It doesn't mean a good futsal player makes a good footballer. But the proportion of good footballers who have played futsal is growing in this part of the world.
Do some research.

A lot of good footballers have....I dunno....been to the dentist too. 

Therefore good dental hygiene can make you a good footballer?

That's not to say good dental hygiene equates to a good footballer, but the proportion of footballers with good dental hygiene is increasing in this part of the world. 

Tegal, this won't hurt a bit:
All I'm saying is that an increasing % of our better footballers coming through the system have played futsal.

Hey, stats & logic was never my strong point but I'm a stubborn fcuk so I'll keep trying.
Futsal makes you a better footballer because:
Every player get many many times more touches in 40 minutes of futsal than 90 minutes of football.
Players learn to control the ball with the sole if their foot as the basis for trapping the ball and playing the ball.
Due to the confined space, speed of thought, speed of feet, speed of creativity and speed of pass/move/play are vastly faster than football.
Due to a smaller weighted ball played (usually) on a smooth court surface, the player gets 100% accurate return for their touches on the ball. This leads to far greater ball control mastery.

So Futsal is indoor soccer with just some rule changes……

you all make some good points and they all have a base of truth and both sides want good footballers to have opportunity to develop.

But is the cost too high for the return to your major stake holders of possible better players?

Well done for bring it back on topic Spartacus. Good question. Is the return on investment worth it? Is developing and paying coaches worth it? Is the FTC programme worth it? The 'value' or ROI on FTC investment has yet to be borne out. There are discussions in most of the regions about the value of the FTC programme. Is it developing better players, than what the clubs can do, or private academies? 

IMO futsal is worth it. I'd also add that Wellington, with its plethora or turfs, is ideally placed to develop a low cost outdoor futsal scene. Obviously the benefits of indoor remain - easily played at night, great courts, doesn't matter what the weather is doing.

If I had a choice (and my time again), I'd actually 'invest' in playing futsal exclusively - from the earliest ages until they are 10 or 11 and then introduce football 7 a side. FTC - in some of the the format I've witnessed it, hmm, not so sure on those returns yet.