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thats the biggest load of nonsense I've ever read  
And yes I'm sure there will be calls for CF to do something
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So Feverish, If the clubs dont get players from their 2nds to fill in while the Team Wellington players are unavailable where do they get them from?

A dog with a bone :)

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new zealand under 23's
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nightz wrote:
[QUOTE=Feverish
 
 
thats the biggest load of nonsense I've ever read  
And yes I'm sure there will be calls for CF to do something
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So Feverish, If the clubs dont get players from their 2nds to fill in while the Team Wellington players are unavailable where do they get them from?
 
I'm just struggling to find a parallel to the debate here.

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Wests, Hutt, Mar and olympics second teams are not good enough for capital premier and playing you 1st team players doesn't count. All it means that players that should be playing capital 1 level at these clubs are in fact playing capital 2 and beyond as 1st team players are taking their spots.

Its not good for capital football and its not good for the teams like marist and naenae who are good enough for premier but have to make way for central league reserve teams
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totally incorrect.
Mar vs Marist 2 games this year.Not 1 first team player dropped in either game mar win 3-2 and 2-1.
 
only thing is if mar had a squad of 18 for the central league these days and so this would be the case.
 
olympic - raf is a first team player ect ect
west - john rowe,darren c ect ect
lower hutt - louis ect ect
 
these are clearly first team starters in any team in welly not fring players who dont make a squad of 16 for cl and well need a game.
 
there is the big difference. a pleayer who gets dropped for not making a squad of 16, and can only play 14 anyway so 2 guys dont get a game this week, becasue someone else was better that week at training and a player who is dropped to help a team win.
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What i should have added was Mir were the pic of the 2nd teams and this showed with them being able to compete at the beginning of the season. The other two teams were a joke. Lower Hutt lost 5-7 goals some weeks, the premier league is better than that!
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And we cant forget WESTS great start with their actual second team!!! Thats a disgrace!! They lost first 8- or 9 haha!

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I do not believe Miramar were dropping players during the season. Equally, they would not be in the position they were had Wests and LH not dropped players and gone on winning runs.
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Some old moans season after season but yet the rules never get changed.
 
 I wonder why that is? Can someone tell me.

A dog with a bone :)

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Maybe- Big clubs get the biggest say
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I've been to lots of meetings at CF and no one has ever raised it. You guys should come along to one of the end of season wrap ups they do- just ask your Chairman when they are on. There is also the CF AGM held in June. 
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get rid of 2nd teams in the grade is the only answer really - let 2nd string clubs like tawa, karori,island bay, naenae, marist, north wellington, upper hutt and kapiti
 
i told you at the start of the season all this would happen but nightz and co really tried hard to defend it - absoulte bullocks really. the grades a bit of a joke when only 3 teams were really ever competing for top place when the rest was all about survival
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rightstr wrote:
I've been to lots of meetings at CF and no one has ever raised it.  
 
It cant be a problem than. Sorry couldnt resist that.
 
If you want the rules changed come up with some better (workable) ones and get your club to discuss them with Capital Football.

A dog with a bone :)

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nightz wrote:
rightstr wrote:
I've been to lots of meetings at CF and no one has ever raised it.  
 
It cant be a problem than. Sorry couldnt resist that.
 
If you want the rules changed come up with some better (workable) ones and get your club to discuss them with Capital Football.
 
what so what clubs are going to have a voice tawa? upper hutt? kapiti??
the people who are getting effected by this are actually the ACTUAL players of wests, lower hutt, olympics second team who train week in week out and then get dropped below cap 2 every week so their 1st team players can come down and take their places.
 
so you suggest these players go talk to their chairman? and whats he going to do? STUFF ALL because hes probably the orchestrating this bullsh*t
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nightz wrote:
rightstr wrote:
I've been to lots of meetings at CF and no one has ever raised it.  
 
It cant be a problem than. Sorry couldnt resist that.
 
If you want the rules changed come up with some better (workable) ones and get your club to discuss them with Capital Football.
 
Its gone to another level this season
Im sure it will be raised

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nightz wrote:
rightstr wrote:
I've been to lots of meetings at CF and no one has ever raised it.  
 
It cant be a problem than. Sorry couldnt resist that.
 
If you want the rules changed come up with some better (workable) ones and get your club to discuss them with Capital Football.
 
what so what clubs are going to have a voice tawa? upper hutt? kapiti??
the people who are getting effected by this are actually the ACTUAL players of wests, lower hutt, olympics second team who train week in week out and then get dropped below cap 2 every week so their 1st team players can come down and take their places.
 
so you suggest these players go talk to their chairman? and whats he going to do? STUFF ALL because hes probably the orchestrating this bullsh*t
 
I can tell you Bob that more 3rd team players played for the 2nd team and more 2nd team players played for the 1st team than 1st team players played for the 2nd team at Lower Hutt so I dont think you will be hearing to many players complaining.
 
Oympic's 2nds were promoted to the 1st so they werent playing "below cap2 every week".
 
Do Wests even have lower teams?

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Feverish wrote:
nightz wrote:
rightstr wrote:
I've been to lots of meetings at CF and no one has ever raised it.  
 
It cant be a problem than. Sorry couldnt resist that.
 
If you want the rules changed come up with some better (workable) ones and get your club to discuss them with Capital Football.
 
Its gone to another level this season
Im sure it will be raised
 
 
Yes it will be raised by all the mickey mouse clubs who moan on this forum. The realilty is if you cannot beat a 2nd team with 3 or 4 CL players in it how the hell do even expect to compete in the CL.
yourmomma2008-09-02 11:56:33
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nightz wrote:
nightz wrote:
rightstr wrote:
I've been to lots of meetings at CF and no one has ever raised it.  
 
It cant be a problem than. Sorry couldnt resist that.
 
If you want the rules changed come up with some better (workable) ones and get your club to discuss them with Capital Football.
 
what so what clubs are going to have a voice tawa? upper hutt? kapiti??
the people who are getting effected by this are actually the ACTUAL players of wests, lower hutt, olympics second team who train week in week out and then get dropped below cap 2 every week so their 1st team players can come down and take their places.
 
so you suggest these players go talk to their chairman? and whats he going to do? STUFF ALL because hes probably the orchestrating this bullsh*t
 
I can tell you Bob that more 3rd team players played for the 2nd team and more 2nd team players played for the 1st team than 1st team players played for the 2nd team at Lower Hutt so I dont think you will be hearing to many players complaining.
 
Oympic's 2nds were promoted to the 1st so they werent playing "below cap2 every week".
 
Do Wests even have lower teams?
 
what choice did they have?

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Feverish
 
I can tell you Bob that more 3rd team players played for the 2nd team and more 2nd team players played for the 1st team than 1st team players played for the 2nd team at Lower Hutt so I dont think you will be hearing to many players complaining.
 
Oympic's 2nds were promoted to the 1st so they werent playing "below cap2 every week".
 
Do Wests even have lower teams?
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what choice did they have?
 
Ask Bob, he reckons they go down the grades, "every week" when the reverse is often true.

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The interesting thing about this and I know everyone is picking on Olympic but if you look at the players involved in the 1st and 2nds isnt it better for there development to be playing better players. I believe that most of Os 2nd team are under 19s so doesnt that bode well for them and the club as a whole if not football in general. The biggest problem is a lot of these guys are not able to step up from cap 1 to CL it is to bigger jump hence being in a better division is to their benefit as well. Every club has the ability to do what these clubs have done it is not the fault of the top clubs that they have better players to do it with. Look at Naenae once they lost there imports they lost to the cellar dwellers, so be it the league was won, if they do not get there imports back next year what will they be like.
Your right stop moaning and come up with answers you will never please everyone.
My few solutions take them as you want:
only 3 players can drop each week to a team only one level down from their previous playing week ie if you play 1st team one saturday you can only play 2nd team the next not 3rds hence this will stop the regard for 5 mins in a lower team at 1230 for a 230 game.
Cut Central League who is it benefitting not Wgtn football, it helps Naki, Hawkes Bay and Palmy but not Wgtn it doesnt help us develop players where as having a super 10 or 12 within Wgtn will benefit the region as those fringe players will be exposed to a better level of footy more often.
Have a finals system so as to keep the top clubs interested and something to play off for at the end
Maybe make the tops clubs 2nd an u21 or u19 league this would then have an impact on school football which should be a mid week situation rather than weekends. School boy football stuffs a lot of these kids up
 
Well thats enought of me just a few thoughts quickly noted down.....
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what so what clubs are going to have a voice tawa? upper hutt? kapiti??
the people who are getting effected by this are actually the ACTUAL players of wests, lower hutt, olympics second team who train week in week out and then get dropped below cap 2 every week so their 1st team players can come down and take their places.
 
so you suggest these players go talk to their chairman? and whats he going to do? STUFF ALL because hes probably the orchestrating this bullsh*t
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Thats the nature of a club, when some players drop down from the team above you may not get picked that week, if youve got a problem with that then you need to make the 1st team or train well enough to be in for the remaining spots. If your club doesnt have the set up that can do that then whos fault is that?
Because if your club could drop players down at crucial times it would!
 
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Tourets wrote:
 
what so what clubs are going to have a voice tawa? upper hutt? kapiti??
the people who are getting effected by this are actually the ACTUAL players of wests, lower hutt, olympics second team who train week in week out and then get dropped below cap 2 every week so their 1st team players can come down and take their places.
 
so you suggest these players go talk to their chairman? and whats he going to do? STUFF ALL because hes probably the orchestrating this bullsh*t
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Thats the nature of a club, when some players drop down from the team above you may not get picked that week, if youve got a problem with that then you need to make the 1st team or train well enough to be in for the remaining spots. If your club doesnt have the set up that can do that then whos fault is that?
Because if your club could drop players down at crucial times it would!
 
 
Well said tourets... the same can also be said that the biggest baggers on here about it are rightstr and 2ndbest from Wgtn Utd and feverish.You guys need to get your own 2nd teams in order just look at your finishing places in the league they were woeful. All it shows is that you have absolutely NO depth at all.
And yet for some reason you bag clubs that have depth.
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yourmomma wrote:
Tourets wrote:
 
what so what clubs are going to have a voice tawa? upper hutt? kapiti??
the people who are getting effected by this are actually the ACTUAL players of wests, lower hutt, olympics second team who train week in week out and then get dropped below cap 2 every week so their 1st team players can come down and take their places.
 
so you suggest these players go talk to their chairman? and whats he going to do? STUFF ALL because hes probably the orchestrating this bullsh*t
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Thats the nature of a club, when some players drop down from the team above you may not get picked that week, if youve got a problem with that then you need to make the 1st team or train well enough to be in for the remaining spots. If your club doesnt have the set up that can do that then whos fault is that?
Because if your club could drop players down at crucial times it would!
 
 
Well said tourets... the same can also be said that the biggest baggers on here about it are rightstr and 2ndbest from Wgtn Utd and feverish.You guys need to get your own 2nd teams in order just look at your finishing places in the league they were woeful. All it shows is that you have absolutely NO depth at all.
And yet for some reason you bag clubs that have depth.

Olympic - depth? I've seen more depth in a puddle at Karori Park. They got hammered twice by BNU.

 

League Winners

       

Capital 2            Dreamers

Capital 4            Cougars

Capital 7            Sealords

Capital 10          Aces

Capital 11          Raging Stags

Capital 14A         Sealads

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western suburbs depth???? they have a two team friggin club!
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Feverish wrote:
yourmomma wrote:
Tourets wrote:
 
what so what clubs are going to have a voice tawa? upper hutt? kapiti??
the people who are getting effected by this are actually the ACTUAL players of wests, lower hutt, olympics second team who train week in week out and then get dropped below cap 2 every week so their 1st team players can come down and take their places.
 
so you suggest these players go talk to their chairman? and whats he going to do? STUFF ALL because hes probably the orchestrating this bullsh*t
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Thats the nature of a club, when some players drop down from the team above you may not get picked that week, if youve got a problem with that then you need to make the 1st team or train well enough to be in for the remaining spots. If your club doesnt have the set up that can do that then whos fault is that?
Because if your club could drop players down at crucial times it would!
 
 
Well said tourets... the same can also be said that the biggest baggers on here about it are rightstr and 2ndbest from Wgtn Utd and feverish.You guys need to get your own 2nd teams in order just look at your finishing places in the league they were woeful. All it shows is that you have absolutely NO depth at all.
And yet for some reason you bag clubs that have depth.

Olympic - depth? I've seen more depth in a puddle at Karori Park. They got hammered twice by BNU.

 

League Winners

       

Capital 2            Dreamers

Capital 4            Cougars

Capital 7            Sealords

Capital 10          Aces

Capital 11          Raging Stags

Capital 14A         Sealads

 
 
Not very clever are you feverish 0ne nil isnt a hammering ......this is a hammering dude...North Wellington 11 wharfies 2nds 0
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Well said tourets... the same can also be said that the biggest baggers on here about it are rightstr and 2ndbest from Wgtn Utd and feverish.You guys need to get your own 2nd teams in order just�look at your finishing places in the league�they were�woeful. All it shows is�that you have absolutely NO depth at all.
And yet�for some reason you bag clubs that have depth.

how is 'having depth' dressing up your first team as reservesin cap 1? you are just killing your whole point.
how does that work?please explain..
bemused
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yourmomma wrote:
Well said tourets... the same can also be said that the biggest baggers on here about it are rightstr and 2ndbest from Wgtn Utd and feverish.You guys need to get your own 2nd teams in order just look at your finishing places in the league they were woeful. All it shows is that you have absolutely NO depth at all.
And yet for some reason you bag clubs that have depth.
Right...you make no sense at all.  now don't get me wrong, yes your 2nd team is a good team (and better than our 2nd team based on the final table). But to say you have depth because your second team has been propped up by first team players over the last month is stupid.
 
Anyway if you do go up, i hope there is enough money in your club to pay for a good chiropractic.  Your second keeper will be needing one for 9 tenth of next years season.
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yourmomma wrote:
Feverish wrote:
yourmomma wrote:
Tourets wrote:
 
what so what clubs are going to have a voice tawa? upper hutt? kapiti??
the people who are getting effected by this are actually the ACTUAL players of wests, lower hutt, olympics second team who train week in week out and then get dropped below cap 2 every week so their 1st team players can come down and take their places.
 
so you suggest these players go talk to their chairman? and whats he going to do? STUFF ALL because hes probably the orchestrating this bullsh*t
[/QUOTE]
 
Thats the nature of a club, when some players drop down from the team above you may not get picked that week, if youve got a problem with that then you need to make the 1st team or train well enough to be in for the remaining spots. If your club doesnt have the set up that can do that then whos fault is that?
Because if your club could drop players down at crucial times it would!
 
 
Well said tourets... the same can also be said that the biggest baggers on here about it are rightstr and 2ndbest from Wgtn Utd and feverish.You guys need to get your own 2nd teams in order just look at your finishing places in the league they were woeful. All it shows is that you have absolutely NO depth at all.
And yet for some reason you bag clubs that have depth.

Olympic - depth? I've seen more depth in a puddle at Karori Park. They got hammered twice by BNU.

 

League Winners

       

Capital 2            Dreamers

Capital 4            Cougars

Capital 7            Sealords

Capital 10          Aces

Capital 11          Raging Stags

Capital 14A         Sealads

 
 
Not very clever are you feverish 0ne nil isnt a hammering ......this is a hammering dude...North Wellington 11 wharfies 2nds 0
there's always 1 guy who spoils a good debate.
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yourmomma wrote:
Tourets wrote:
 
what so what clubs are going to have a voice tawa? upper hutt? kapiti??
the people who are getting effected by this are actually the ACTUAL players of wests, lower hutt, olympics second team who train week in week out and then get dropped below cap 2 every week so their 1st team players can come down and take their places.
 
so you suggest these players go talk to their chairman? and whats he going to do? STUFF ALL because hes probably the orchestrating this bullsh*t
[/QUOTE]
 
Thats the nature of a club, when some players drop down from the team above you may not get picked that week, if youve got a problem with that then you need to make the 1st team or train well enough to be in for the remaining spots. If your club doesnt have the set up that can do that then whos fault is that?
Because if your club could drop players down at crucial times it would!
 
 
Well said tourets... the same can also be said that the biggest baggers on here about it are rightstr and 2ndbest from Wgtn Utd and feverish.You guys need to get your own 2nd teams in order just look at your finishing places in the league they were woeful. All it shows is that you have absolutely NO depth at all.
And yet for some reason you bag clubs that have depth.
 
can you argue western suburbs depth for me please.
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yourmomma wrote:
Tourets wrote:
 
what so what clubs are going to have a voice tawa? upper hutt? kapiti??
the people who are getting effected by this are actually the ACTUAL players of wests, lower hutt, olympics second team who train week in week out and then get dropped below cap 2 every week so their 1st team players can come down and take their places.
 
so you suggest these players go talk to their chairman? and whats he going to do? STUFF ALL because hes probably the orchestrating this bullsh*t
[/QUOTE]
 
Thats the nature of a club, when some players drop down from the team above you may not get picked that week, if youve got a problem with that then you need to make the 1st team or train well enough to be in for the remaining spots. If your club doesnt have the set up that can do that then whos fault is that?
Because if your club could drop players down at crucial times it would!
 
 
Well said tourets... the same can also be said that the biggest baggers on here about it are rightstr and 2ndbest from Wgtn Utd and feverish.You guys need to get your own 2nd teams in order just look at your finishing places in the league they were woeful. All it shows is that you have absolutely NO depth at all.
And yet for some reason you bag clubs that have depth.
 
can you argue western suburbs depth for me please.
 
 
Well for one I dont need to but just for you then... what Leagues are their top two teams in, that speaks for it's self..... and hey guess what Mr Angus they are still there....lol
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yourmomma, you make no sense gramatically or idealogically.
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don't you mean what league is there top one team in????
 
wow you must feel tough calling me by my name - not like anyone dosnt know who i am. dipsh*t.
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don't you mean what league is there top one team in????
 
wow you must feel tough calling me by my name - not like anyone dosnt know who i am. dipsh*t.
 
Cant understand why you have this abnormal fixation with West's Simon, what have they done to you. Let me guess you cant make their 2nd team ...lol. And you should really keep your comments to the division your playing in which I believe is capital 2 instead of trying to change all the rules for higher leagues, which in all honesty do not effect you and never will...lol
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yourmomma wrote:
don't you mean what league is there top one team in????
 
wow you must feel tough calling me by my name - not like anyone dosnt know who i am. dipsh*t.
 
Cant understand why you have this abnormal fixation with West's Simon, what have they done to you. Let me guess you cant make their 2nd team ...lol. And you should really keep your comments to the division your playing in which I believe is capital 2 instead of trying to change all the rules for higher leagues, which in all honesty do not effect you and never will...lol
 
i have an abnormal fixation with football. does it matter if i play the grade or not - i enjoy watching and supporting football - im sh*t at it and that has been thrashed on here - my comments are fair instead of bringing this all back down to the lowest common denominator and getting personal how about you state your facts of where the depth is in these teams. who knows if wests decided to put more focus on getting depth rather than bringing players from all over wellington to stay in central league and then keep there 2nd team afloat - players like myself and the quality players that wests have produced as juniors may some day return - that would be depth.
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yourmomma wrote:
don't you mean what league is there top one team in????
 
wow you must feel tough calling me by my name - not like anyone dosnt know who i am. dipsh*t.
 
Cant understand why you have this abnormal fixation with West's Simon, what have they done to you. Let me guess you cant make their 2nd team ...lol. And you should really keep your comments to the division your playing in which I believe is capital 2 instead of trying to change all the rules for higher leagues, which in all honesty do not effect you and never will...lol
 
If your gonna comment on someone's football ability on here why don't you put your name on it instead of hiding.
 
And I guess yourmomma that you will never comment about the a league, phoenix, or premier league because I'm pretty sure you don't play at those levels.
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2ndBest wrote:
yourmomma wrote:
don't you mean what league is there top one team in????
 
wow you must feel tough calling me by my name - not like anyone dosnt know who i am. dipsh*t.
 
Cant understand why you have this abnormal fixation with West's Simon, what have they done to you. Let me guess you cant make their 2nd team ...lol. And you should really keep your comments to the division your playing in which I believe is capital 2 instead of trying to change all the rules for higher leagues, which in all honesty do not effect you and never will...lol
 
If your gonna comment on someone's football ability on here why don't you put your name on it instead of hiding.
 
And I guess yourmomma that you will never comment about the a league, phoenix, or premier league because I'm pretty sure you don't play at those levels.
 

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I missed all this today which is really disappointing - but my 20 cents worth ...

- Anyone who believes the current shenanigans are ok is either speaking from pure club self interest or is daft.
 
- Sure, the current rules allow clubs to drop players down grades and so you cant hold it against clubs that do. But that is not the point. The point is the rules and club incentives need changing.
 
- The intent of the current rules was not to artificially strengthen a club's 2nd team either to achieve promotion or avoid relegation in the second half of the year. Its to do with allowing form, injury and other "legitimate" considerations to be taken into team selection account. These rules are being exploited - plain and simple.
 
- The impact of the "stacking" is being felt at both CL and CPL level. It is weakening and making a mockery of CL with club's fronting up to CL games this year with second string sides.  It is distorting CPL by, for instance, creating a big advantage for club's who play CL clubs early in the round (and therefore get to thrash a bunch of kids) over clubs that play CL clubs late in the round (and end up playing half an NZFC squad).
 
- There are passionate people at all clubs, not just CL clubs, who put time, energy and resource into them and strive for success, particularly first team success. All those people and all those clubs deserve to know the league playing fields are as level as possible and that success will be determined by the ability of their squad of players to perform against the squads assembled by other club's in that same league - not subject to the exploitation of regrading rules, the order of the draw or their performance against a team of players from the grade above.
 
And Nightz, it is actually worse this year, and it has been getting progressively worse for several years as CL clubs continue to get their second teams promoted in CPL.
 
My suggestions:
1.) tighten up the rules relating to regrading of players
2.) introduce a play off/finals system for CL which will create an incentive for clubs to keep trying to win CL matches right through until the end of the round robin (and make it more difficult for them to drop players to their seconds). This would also have the associated benefit of providing some climax and focal point for our club competitions, something to get excited about at the end of the year
 
3.) An additional option would be to banish CL clubs from CPL (but i think that is probably unnecessary if you undertook 1. and 2.)
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yeah what he said

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Team Wellington (or any other NZFC) players shouldnt be allowed to play in any other league but cl....that would help too. wests would have broken that law heaps of times....
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And Nightz, it is actually worse this year, and it has been getting progressively worse for several years as CL clubs continue to get their second teams promoted in CPL.
 
My suggestions:
1.) tighten up the rules relating to regrading of players
2.) introduce a play off/finals system for CL which will create an incentive for clubs to keep trying to win CL matches right through until the end of the round robin (and make it more difficult for them to drop players to their seconds). This would also have the associated benefit of providing some climax and focal point for our club competitions, something to get excited about at the end of the year
 
3.) An additional option would be to banish CL clubs from CPL (but i think that is probably unnecessary if you undertook 1. and 2.)
 
You cant blame clubs for using the rules as they see fit. There is a problem with some clubs not being able to field their desired lineups at the start of the season.
 
Has your club put a proposal to Capital Football to change the rules? Have they lobbied other clubs to back them up? Moaning on here wont change anything. As its getting out of hand in some clubs (most) minds get together and do something constructive about it or we will be reading this same thread over again next year.

A dog with a bone :)

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