Mainland Premier League

Most clubs look after their players as they see fit. Jobs with other members, boot money, travel expenses, free social trips. This happens throughout NZ and is quite common. It certainly happened at Rangers and New Brighton when I was with them.

Currently though the highest paid player in a Mainland Premier First team would surely be GT playing for Coastal and MV would be the highest paid female also playing for Coastal.

Not a problem, a club using their resources as they see fit, but fact rather than some of the fiction spread here.

Have tech and bays announced their reserve grade coaches yet?

But would they, is not their playing ability one reason to consider them over another for their role. Is it any different to a club hiring someone to say look after their clubrooms, partly because they can play at the top level or coach some juniors because they can play or give them a job in their factory over someone else because they can play ?

I, as previously stated have no problem with players who are out there making our game in NZ better getting rewarded. If we had half of the money it appears to cost to administer the game to spend on the real development of our game, which would include spending more on players to buy more time and commitment then we would all be better off with a better quality senior game.

So who was it that said  chairman give people jobs and employ players as coaches wink wink

But  we don't and only use players in our mpl team coming through the ranks .

Then pt states something and it's a totally different scenerio . We should call this blog the Mainland football - coastal are on moral high ground every body else are wrong and cheating , because our men's first team would have won everything otherwise.

At fc we were probably the only mpl team last year to play most players who came through the club and then relegated 

Apart from the game against Nelson when u had to roll put all the old coastal boys to make an 11, how many of the regular starting 11 at spirit came through the juniors last year 

I am pretty confident nobody on here is ever going to say "OK, you got me! We paid players and I will now resign in shame because of it". Certainly not PT anyway. I am pretty sure GT has some kind of degree in sporty stuff, and possibly typing, that make him suited for whatever job he does, and MV is all educated at a posh school and university too, so its quite a long way from jobs for the boys, as implied up there^^^. 

Whats the point of all of it?

Didn't I already have a frank exchange of ideas with PT about the moral high ground a ways back? If you want to be truly superior, then be honest. If it gets you in the shit, then you learn. Liars do a great job of avoiding/redirecting criticism or consequences and convince themselves they are winning, when in reality, they are scared of change to the point of paralysis. 

 And doggedly repeating "It worked in the past/back in my day/it happened at Rangers" like some kind of verbal mantra that will make everyone respect your longevity, as if you are footballs Yoda, (too late, Arsenio Venga has that title!), is not going to change the fact that it was wrong then, and is wrong now. 

 Perks and kickbacks, cheap boots and no subs is one thing, but thousands of dollars?? I suspect they may be having a quiet giggle at the poor club who is paying them out...

please can someone direct me to where it against the rules to pay or reimburse a player!!!!!!!

rule 5 NZF says you can pay or reimburse players and gives guide lines and further instructions on how this is done and mainland football rules use this same rule so i am confused why i keep seeing people saying it is against the rules?

if you know a club is not following these rules (rule5) you need to report them otherwise you are just making the water muddy with speculation and this will just allow people to hide illegal payments not covered by rule 5.

if they are following rule 5 shut up and play football

It is not wrong and it does work.

Ok with perks but not big money? Where is your line?

It happens across the world, the better the competition the greater the reward.

Players like to be appreciated, serious players like to be rewarded. If you know any, ask them. They also like to be amongst like minded committed people, other players and club supporters. Ask them to tell you what makes them tick, what gets them off their butts and to training. Not the ones who just want to play, the ones who want to achieve. Those with ambition. Talk to the supporters that get off their butts, they will tell you they want to see a better game. The players want to play in it (a better game).

Happy with local pub football then stick to it. There is a good Sunday League, but not a lot of supporters watching. 

Believe me it is easy to be honest when you have nothing to hide !!! 

Look I'm willing to call a truce, I've obviously said my bit, as have the others.  Just to clear up for arguments sake, is this the rules you are speaking of Spartacus?

 http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/fileadmin/user_upload/Documents/Rules_And_Regs/Regulation_5_-_2013.pdfhttp://www.nzfootball.co.nz/fileadmin/user_upload/Documents/Rules_And_Regs/Regulation_5_-_2013.pdf

yep and item 3 covers it all including all the loop holes…

Ok, so to paraphrase: 

• You're either a pro or an amateur, a pro gets paid more than the expenses occurred in order to play
• An amateur can claim any expense such as equipment, insurance and even loss of wages to play
  
• A copy of the contract needs to be handed in to Mainland to hold onto

Short truce there vim, what player r u talking about?

In fact, the wording of that, specifically "A player may receive prize money resulting in participating in a competition without 

Depends if you're any good and what club you intend to play for in 2014! 

Dinamo Chris very valid points and I think you're completely right about each one also. Being a Selwyn player can you inform us of any of these "supposed" signings meant to be happening? Dan Ede? Greg Feutz? Other Internationals?

Shametur league, player payments, IRD...Pandora's box!

On a completely different topic, here's some gossip I heard at the football yesterday.

Parklands are into the Women's Premier League thus creating a 7 team league. Thoughts?

I've heard parklands are in. Joke really when coastal and cashmere both finished above them in the PDL/reserve/u18 league.

For a very lively discussion on money/ amateurism/trusts/ASB prem clubs read the last couple of days posts on the news/ Danny hay thread.

And parklands next team after the 1st team could be their U13s!

A very interesting thread GG, good spotting. Obviously a more expensive example but something that MPL is heading towards. 

Parklands were 2nd only to Coastal Spirit Black by 1 point in 2013 (which was mainly a high school team playing under a club name I think) & 2nd to CTFC in 2012 while also getting 2nd in the Lotto U19 tournament in 2013 & getting some pretty positive feedback from that tournament also so seems abit harsh to say its a joke. Its good to see both premier leagues with new teams in them.

Red devil I'm all for more competition in the women's game IF the standard is ok and would even allow teams who haven't earned promotion so that selwyn Waimak etc can have a women's pathway. BUT parklands will now almost certainly not field a reserve team which weakens that league for the 2nd teams at other clubs. Uni already don't field a 2nd team in the reserve/PDL/18s.
It is more important to get the criteria established so that there are proper pathways. Otherwise the league under WPL will be 14the grade! If parklands are good enough why not let tech or coastal 2nds have 2teams in top league? They've done the hard work to build up the numbers at all ages. Because it means no reserve league. Parklands will now have one senior team and the next grade as I said could well be U 13s.