Olympic/Naenae

My comment was that regrading a player down then up to become eligible for a playoff game (as was the case with RE) is something that should be outlawed if they redo the Regs. I�m not bringing into doubt the fact that GH gave written permission. My thoughts are that he was a numpty for doing this, as I�m sure his staff would have indicated the contrary to the Bubs (as per laws in Regs). Anyway, was trying to look forward on how things can be improved.

Feverish2009-10-29 12:44:29

Completely off the top of my head, how about something like you must have played at least 2/3 your games that season at or below the level of the team in the playoff - prevents late season regrading down to win playoff, but allows someone who has been playing up as injury cover to still play for the team they feel they belong to?

Yeah they some sort of stipulation in there.

RE was the captain and played 99% of the second team games.

He should of been allowed to play in the final of his second team.

CF have f**ked up and there's no way around it. We have done nothing wrong, we were not treading on any ice, we were merlely following instructions.

If anyone still thinks, 'O well Olympic knew that this could of happened, or they cheated the rules therefore f**k them,' please explain...

(excuse my french - I'm taking anger management classes)
uncle steve2009-10-29 13:38:54

The decision to leave the Regs as they are at prsent was actually made about two years (could be three...) at the CF AGM. when all the CL clubs agreed to leave the regs as they were at the time....

so do people think (RE case aside) that it is in the 'spirit of the laws' to downgrade then upgrade a player for a play-off?

In general no when a player has been playing for the higher team all year, but in this case yes, hence my suggestion above.  Please feel free to pick the idea apart, as I have put no thought into it at all and I am sure there are flaws.

Who owns the rights to this script? Walt Disney Studios would pay so much money for this, we wouldn't have enough brown paper bags.

yep agreed. I though he meant 2 or 3 games.

I'd buy that addition.

Sounds very fair... But and yes there is always a but....what happens if as according to the rules you re-grade that player from a higher team to a lower team and therefore satisfy the legality of having played in a lower team...?? would that then stand....as being "legal" or indeed within the spitit of the game..?? Da Boss2009-10-29 15:33:36

Yup,thats the "if you play in capital 4 you can play in the playoff"

 

hey uncle, stop being so nice!!!! u so rightly should be pissed and when an injustice has occured u need not hold it in, but let it all out. anger management only suppresses the emotion till it bottlenecks and u end up topping yourself, it ain't worth it . at least if you really have to hit something, go knock that scottish cow's head off will ya.

Except an injustice was made against Naenae by way of a central league graded player playing agaisnt them in a major playoff match,which they then lost (regardless of whether CF screwed up,fact is it seems he wasnt eligible to play,hence the overturning of the result after the appeal)

so cap1/cap 2 playoff

unsure about this year but last year it was six I was told

PUSSY RULES FOR PUSSY PEOPLE i will dob the next naenae pom that gets given pub charity from hard working gamblers pockets!!!!!   pizda2009-10-29 19:54:36

^^^^ your an absolute f**king genius. How old are you? Five? f**k off and let people discuss without retarded comments.

Okay.  I've avoided this thread (for obvious reasons).  Pizda, unless you can engage with people in a civil fashion you will be banned.

Feel free to make your points in a fashion that fits in with the general standard of the forum or I will continue hiding/removing them and will ban you and your IP address. 

You know, in the old days if we thought someone had been regraded down unfairly we would just kick the f**k out of them. In general it seemed to work.

Who has acted within the spirit of the rules and the game in this case?  I would say

toehacker2009-10-29 21:30:18

Just a quick thought for you on the regrading issue what about having a player can only regarde once over a weekend ie a 48 hour stand down peroid ie if your a lower graded player you can go up but you can not go back down in the same weekend? if we look in this case RE could have played Cap 4 but is unable to regarde into another team for a 48 hour peroid that would stop the issue?

 

No one stopped you saying what you wanted to say, just stopped you saying it in a fashion that was offensive to everyone else.  As per the forum rules.

This forum is a dictatorship, this isn't a free-for-all, it's a forum run by an organisation and sometimes that organisation will make a decision on what is acceptable or not. 

Yeah its sort of common sense vs literal interpretation. Depends how much wriggle room you want to open up to people.

Tegal - I think that's a pretty fair response although I probably lean the other way

ok I'll bring it up if you insist

Nothing like turning up to play for Stokes Valley in 2008 at Crawford Park against an Olympic team you think you can beat to keep your hopes alive and seeing Nathu in goal and Raf up front - WTF - so yeah Olympic might be getting a bit worked over this year. But they tried their best before to work others over

Yeah I think last year Olympic made a decision to drop players down as per the rules over a period of weeks some say it was wrong but then wests do it every week and have done for years. Also if you remember last year Miramar in the final against Olympic did exactly what Olympic did this year and were allowed to do so ie they dropped several players from the first team down into lower grades and brought them back up as CF said they were able to do this legally as the ruling was interpreted that coming up from a lower division was in fact not classed as a regrade. Olympic this year agreed in a gentleman's agreement at the start of the year with all the other clubs that they would not exploit the rules in the same way and would endeavorer to do there best in sticking to the spirit of the game. In the case of RE I think they have stuck to the sprit of the game and did not try to drop any first team players and allowed the team to preform on the merits of the team that played all year.

-when was Wests in a play-off?

I have also just found out that apparently Marist played an inelegiable player in the first game against Olympic and that said player got booked hence CF wrere suppose to notify Olympic and Marist, take the points away from them and give them to Olympic at which point this would not have happened as Olympic would have won the league. Funny all this, at the end of the day CF and make an absolute mess of all of this so it will be interesting to see what they will do for all clubs concerned to make amends. I think overall as someone mentioned above they are new and need time to be allowed to get to grips with every thing but they also need to stand up front say they have made mistakes make a decision that is in favor of football in general and move forward.

The CEO is new...his office staff have been around a while tho - Jamie Cross must be about due to get his 10 year gold watch, likewise the coaching staff have been there the best part of a decade.