Olympic/Naenae

Olympic/Naenae

The big news on the street is that the Olympic/Naenae promo relegation result has been overturned by NZF due to Ryan Edwards playing when he had been graded as a Central league player.

where and when did this come from?

I heard same.  Announced today apparently.  Check with Da Boss for confirmation and let us know. Smithy2009-10-21 15:34:22

Presume that will have a trickle-down effect.  Lord knows how that works.

Wouldn't think so.  They just don't swap surely.

(Not offering a view or an opinion on this decision or actions that lead to it).

Oh yeah, good point.

If this is true then you have to feel a bit sorry for Olympic. He had played for the second team (and captaining them I believe) all year, and even when he was playing for the Central league side he still was playind second team. So its not like he was dropped just for the playoff.

Agree.

I DISAGREE!!

Here is the facts.

Capital Football is a f**king joke.

New Zealand Football is a f**king joke.

How can you appoint governing bodies to make authoritative decisions and over-rule them?

Id like to see this explained...but good luck charlie.

Down...yes.

But not out.

FML.

So what is the confirmed decision? 

US, have you been caught with your pants down? You should know the rules. Bending the rule is one thing but breaking the rule is another. Have you guys broken the rules? Isn't it good that our local and national football organsiations still uphold rules and regulations to enforce Fairplay?

AngusBeef, the grading of players issue is really not that straight forward.  On one hand you have had the systematic regrading that teams have used to get teams promoted, or to stave off relegation.  Then you have the natural up and down that occurs between clubs for form, injury etc.  I don't know the details but the rules have never been particularly clear or well understood, or fair.  And I say that from someone who has manipulated the rules in the past to favour my own side, which I probably shouldn't have done.

Here are the facts as I have been told from someone in the know!!

http://www.goyanz.org.nz/index.php?page=player_profiles&player=781 here is the link for games played

so I take it he played the last Cap1 game, then was playing CL, then played for some low div team prior to the play-off?

cant not comment 100% but believe that was the case.

surely this means the Ktown Dreamers should play Naenae

In all seriousness, what the f**k is going on at Capital Football?

Ok just found out about this...

Think its a little sad...
Heres my point of view
I have played in more 2nd team games this season than anyother player at olympic this year (all but 1)as well as been captain since the start of season and was also 2ND team PotY...surely that counts as me been a 2nd team player...

I only played for the 1st team due to an injury to a 1st team player.

I played 2 games a weekend as I wanted to remain part of the 2nd team to help ensure promotion.

But did not want to turn down a first team opportunity, As it got close to the end of the season I was told that I may have to miss the promo game if i continued to play for the 1st team...I accepted that I would miss the promo game if that was the case.

However, capital football said if I played cap 4 before hand that I could play in the naenae game. Had they not made this clear and not allowed me. I simply would not have played...

But The decisions been made, not much can be done, so I guess another year in capital one. Naenae fair enough to complain no grudges there. I only think its sad that NZF/capital footabll have now made it that my decision to play has meant that all my team mates hardwork and good preformances have gone to waste.

Does anyone from naenae think it was actually unfair that I played? Based on facts not rules? Rematch prehaps...I'll bring along my beers and watch from sideline, promise!
Redwards2009-10-22 18:50:29

Rematch won't happen chaps - no ones been training, no gurantee player availability it would just make a farcical situation more ridiculous.

As for the whole thing, based on Olympic they deserve to be in Prems and Naenae don't. Naenae were terrible. It sucks, CF should be strung up from their bollocks, and I think Olympic deserve a damn good explanation from them

Did I just say all that... this is what it feels like to be nice to Olympic

keep olympic and naenae bth champs prem...

drop wellington united to cap 1 they simply awful bobboltontawa22009-10-22 19:56:35

Yeah, it seems CF have made a big stuff up here (unless NZF have, I don't even pretend to understand these regrading rules).

But ffs, why should CF even be in this position? There's such a thing as sportsmanship and it doesn't seem like Naenae are demonstrating much of that here.

I hate hearing these types of stories about clubs running off to mummy when they don't get what they want. Yes, rules are rules but there's also such a thing as just doing the right thing (I'm talking to you Ufuk Talay!).

terminator_x2009-10-22 20:28:28

I guess if you're being forgiving (not my strong suit tbf) then you have to say Naenae are just playing by the rules, and Olympic didn't. Smithy2009-10-23 10:43:26

This is why quite simply the reason no 2nd teams should be in the premier league. Debacles like this just show how much of a joke Capital football and NZF are. They don't even seem to use the same rule book. Fact.....Olympic will struggle in the premier league just like Naenae. Unless they resort to West's tactics which is bollocks. Wests have struggled for the past two years in the premier league and I think it is much better for Wellington football to have a struggling Naenae than another struggling 2nd team.

I felt sorry Olympic brieftly. That was untill I remembered how they stacked their 2nd team at the end of the 2008 season.

Nightz i think if you knew anything about the club you can see we have changed for the good.

@ andyace: So you think that clubs who have proven themselves better than the teams in the Prems still shouldn't deserve a shot?

This imo, is ridiculous.

I think Naenae had the right to put in a appeal, but the matter that it was done - was very un-gentlemanly like.

RE is a second team player, and was not the sole reason for our victory on the day, It was a team effort and it kills me to see all the hard work the boys put in, the ups and downs, all for nothing cause NZF are a f**king joke.

I think NZF has dug them self a hole on this one, and would LOVE to see their explnation on their decision.
uncle steve2009-10-26 18:11:11

NZF ?

All they did was read the rules.  Try CF.

UC, you are an intelligent man explaining your club teams situation very nicely. Have you realised that you guys have brokenbthe rule about eligibility of a player? Your club team had been found guilty and the punishment was handed out. The best thing for you to do now is to accept the decision, stop moaning and get on with it. Hopefully you will be much wiser after this! Yeah right.

if you had a look you will realise they are not compaining about being caught. they are complaining because they gained clearance from CF to play the player, and have now been told he is ineligible. i think its fair enough and im sure anyone else would be complaining if something similar had happened to their club.