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I think every one of those points is complete garbage,
 
Thoughtful and eloquent as always.
Smithy2008-07-30 11:51:35

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Now, ignorning this irrelevant diversion re the merits of franchise systems ...
 
I still have bit of puff left on this one, and I shall use it to continue quoting my favourite comments on this topic in an attempt to bring us back to fundamentals:
 
First of all, James Dean ...
 
"In my mind, winning the playoffs (prior to playing the bottom placed central league teams) is earning the right to have a crack at the CL.  It's not about proving you are better than the team from the league above, and you shouldn't have to.  They've played at a higher level all season, have a huge advantage in attracting players so it's not a fair match up.  But they've had their chance and failed, now it is someone elses turn.  That is how it works in every other league."
 
Second, of course, Get in There Son ...
 
"That means any muppet team can play like c**ts all season and get lucky with a play off. Bullsh*t."
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Smithy wrote:
I think every one of those points is complete garbage,
 
Thoughtful and eloquent as always.
I just focus on being accurate
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Smithy wrote:
james dean wrote:
In my mind, winning the playoffs (prior to playing the bottom placed central league teams) is earning the right to have a crack at the CL.  It's not about proving you are better than the team from the league above, and you shouldn't have to.  They've played at a higher level all season, have a huge advantage in attracting players so it's not a fair match up.  But they've had their chance and failed, now it is someone elses turn.  That is how it works in every other league.
 
As always JD your posts are f*cking hard to argue with.
 
Question for you though: are you against the playoff system for the third promotion spot into the English Premier League?
 
As well as being designed to make good television that system was developed to make sure that the next team going up into the Premiership was resourced and able to compete in the top division.
 
I do agree that the relegation playoff is hard on the winner of CP and easier on the last-placed CL team. 
 
 
irrelevant to this again. They have three teams with automatic relegation.

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Smithy wrote:
james dean wrote:
Smithy wrote:
Feverish wrote:
Smithy wrote:
Feverish wrote:
i believe Marius has won that one Smithy.


I'd have thought you'd be quite keen to get them to implement the playoff system for the team bottom of CPL...
 
hardly. A league without automatic relegation is nonsense.
 
What about NZFC?
 
You know that a franchise system work sin a completely different manner, spurious
 
A franchise is just a club who purchases their position in a league.
 
It doesn't mean that franchise leagues - that do not have automatic relegataion - are "nonsense".  They're just run differently.  Which is fine and they work well.
 
Illustrates the fact that leagues do not have to have automatic relegation.
 
Not spurious at all.
 
Obviously we are excluding franchises as they ARE spurious to the debate. They are often guaranteed a place in the league contractually - something that Centra Lge teams are not. Franchise Lges are great and work well - but irrelevant.

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Feverish wrote:
Smithy wrote:
james dean wrote:
In my mind, winning the playoffs (prior to playing the bottom placed central league teams) is earning the right to have a crack at the CL.  It's not about proving you are better than the team from the league above, and you shouldn't have to.  They've played at a higher level all season, have a huge advantage in attracting players so it's not a fair match up.  But they've had their chance and failed, now it is someone elses turn.  That is how it works in every other league.
 
As always JD your posts are f*cking hard to argue with.
 
Question for you though: are you against the playoff system for the third promotion spot into the English Premier League?
 
As well as being designed to make good television that system was developed to make sure that the next team going up into the Premiership was resourced and able to compete in the top division.
 
I do agree that the relegation playoff is hard on the winner of CP and easier on the last-placed CL team. 
 
 
irrelevant to this again. They have three teams with automatic relegation.
 
Yeah fair point.  Bad example from me.

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Is there anyone else out there prepared to defend the playoff system? 
 
I've run out of arguments so am issuing an SOS prior to conceding defeat.
 
Interesting that nobody from Stop Out has stepped up to defend their right to have a chance at staying in the league.  Perhaps that's the clinching argument for Marius and Feverish's side (not that Feverish has actually contributed anything to discussions other than to sit on the sideline and parp: "see, told you so, haha, you suck"). 
 
Do any of Wairarapa/Tawa/Island Bay deserve a shot at the Central League?  Sure. 
 
Are they likely to be as or more competitive than Stop Out?  Probably.
 
Are Stop Out going to recruit heavily to stay in Central League?  Yes.
 
Is that fair?  Arguably not.
 
Is there another league in the world where the bottom team gets a chance to stay in via a play off?  It would seem not.
 
Have I run out of enthusiasm and substance?  Oh yes.
 
Do away with the ridiculous playoff I say.
 
 
 
 

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You are now head of the lobby group to get this travesty rectified for next season

Looking forward to Rapa v Stop Out at about Xmas time

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Feverish wrote:

You are now head of the lobby group to get this travesty rectified for next season

Looking forward to Rapa v Stop Out at about Xmas time

it would have to be you feverish - under waterside karori
 
your not allowed to contact capital soccer with questions unless its through the club.
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I cant speak for Stop Out obviously, nor relegation from CL, but I did relegated out of CPL last year without a play off - and goddam we deserved it!

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Smithy wrote:
Is there anyone else out there prepared to defend the playoff system? 
I'll partially defend it.  I think we all want the CL to have the best 10 teams from the region.  The current system provides the best means to get the best 10 teams.  Even thou AT PRESENT the rapa would probably compete better than SO in CL, this may not always be the case in future years.  There might be years where the PL is utter rubbish and well below the standard of CL.  Therefore an automatic relegation may cause a even worse team to be promoted.
 
You can't change the playoff system year by year based on how well the PL team will do the following year in CL.  That is far too objective.  There need to be consistency over time, and i still think that the current playoff system is the best way of getting the top 10 teams in the CL year after year after year.
 
Although the actually playoff format is utterly stupid.  Way to long.  Just set up a semifinal and final home and away system.  All over in 4 weeks rather than dragging it out over 3 months.
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I believe the current playoff system is a fair one. With the Rapa favourites to play-off with the winner from the Pacific and Western League Final(rumour has it that no one from the Pacific league wants promotion). This will either be Red Sox who have shown on two occasions that they are not up to CL standard (and haven't taken any significant steps towards addressing problems at the club, players, coaches etc) or North End who draw 0-0 with the Rapa last year in the Catham cup before losing in extra time and North End claim to be a much better team than last year.
 
Having played CL and now playing in the Western League I know the difference in standard is a big one. As the bottom teams in the WL are at about cap1 or cap2 standard and the top teams would compete with the front runners in the PL. For either of the WL teams to gain promotion they should have to prove that they are not only better than the Rapa but also better than Stop Out. If the Rapa or WL team can't bet Stop out in a home and away play-off then they don't deserve to be promoted.
 
The team trying to gain promotion has a advantage over the last place CL team as they will have built up a winning culture over the season. Also having played a home and away games between the central region team and wellington team they should be sharper and have better match fitness.
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DCFC wrote:
 
The team trying to gain promotion has a advantage over the last place CL team as they will have built up a winning culture over the season. Also having played a home and away games between the central region team and wellington team they should be sharper and have better match fitness.


I think that point can be argued. Though the team going for promotion may have built a winning culture, the team in CL has had a year playing at what is a more skillful and faster level which raises their game. If North End have been playing teams of a much lower standard as you say, the intensity in some of the games will be lacking and this can make it hard when you face a tougher opposition.

Also, while the teams who have played may have better match fitness, they also have 2 (or however many) more games in which they can pick up injuries.
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Stop Out deserve a playoff rather than just getting dropped as that was the rules at the start of the season.
 I think most would agree that they have made improvements as the season has progressed. To me the agruement for automatically dropping a team would be stronger if it was the same club comming bottom season after season with no improvement, Stop Out certainally dont fall into this catergory. 

A dog with a bone :)

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Feverish wrote:
Smithy wrote:
james dean wrote:
Smithy wrote:
Feverish wrote:
Smithy wrote:
Feverish wrote:
i believe Marius has won that one Smithy.


I'd have thought you'd be quite keen to get them to implement the playoff system for the team bottom of CPL...
 
hardly. A league without automatic relegation is nonsense.
 
What about NZFC?
 
You know that a franchise system work sin a completely different manner, spurious
 
A franchise is just a club who purchases their position in a league.
 
It doesn't mean that franchise leagues - that do not have automatic relegataion - are "nonsense".  They're just run differently.  Which is fine and they work well.
 
Illustrates the fact that leagues do not have to have automatic relegation.
 
Not spurious at all.
 
Obviously we are excluding franchises as they ARE spurious to the debate. They are often guaranteed a place in the league contractually - something that Centra Lge teams are not. Franchise Lges are great and work well - but irrelevant.
 
Feverish - do you really know what "spurious" means, or did you just see it in another post and try to use it in the same context?

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Lets look at the history of the playoffs:
 
2005 - Red Sox were last by a long way and then got thumped by Stop Out home and away (however managed to stay in the league because Havelock withdrew)
 
2006 - Red Sox again last and got beaten by Taranaki
 
2007 - Taranaki were last and then lost to Petone 10-1 on aggregate (but stayed in the league due to Gisborne running out of Russian $$$)
 
For all 3 years the current system has been in place the last placed Central League team have lost the playoff (although not every time they have gone down).
 
This all looks good for Wairarapa or North End or whoever makes it that far. Can Stop Out buck the trend and stay up? I doubt it. The team that has been winning all year has the momentum and "that winning feeling" whilst the team that has been losing all year has a long break and then has to get up for two big games when clearly they have not been up for much all season.
 
A playoff is good because it gives teams something to play for at the end of the season. Except for the Chatham Cup (for which many teams / players never get the opportunity to go very far) it is the closest thing we have to "finals football" and adds a bit of excitement. Maybe the structure could change, and having the East and West sides of the Central zone does not help. Perhaps they could start their season a little earlier so the wait is not so long.
 
Anyway, Stop Out are going down and only have their own poor performances to blame. Keep it as it is I say because the results speak for themselves.
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Frankie Mac wrote:
 
Feverish - do you really know what "spurious" means, or did you just see it in another post and try to use it in the same context?
 
Spurious - he's the Olympic stiker isnt he?

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So it's fair that a team can win one game in a whole season (20 games) and that makes them worthy of being in the top league?

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It wont be easy for the team who plays stop out in relegation... As it has already been said players will come in at the end of the season who havent played any or only a few games for the central league side but who are members of the stop out club.. Hone Fowler and Cole peverly will probally be two of them from what i have heared through the club... Is that fair? No not really.. But If thats what it takes to keep the team up for another season then its most necessary.. The team will step up to the occasion and it will be a tough two games  and alot closer than people are claiming it to be on here..

 
I said it in my last post and 2nd best summed it up nicely.. You cant change the play off system to suit the consistency of the leagues below it..Heres an example... What if Waiarapa won the play off against the Eastern and Western Teams then we discover Waiarpara are utter crap (ths is just an example) because this  season the leagues below CL are to a low standard . So youve got a team comming in just as bad as the one whos in there as present and they get kicked out?   Whats that acheiving? Your back where you started.. The current play off system is the best way of eliminating that problem
 
 
 
 
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Why favour the team that finishes bottom each year? Surely the advantage should go to the team that wins a league. Even if the club was not as strong as the team it replaced it should be given the opportunity to attract players or coaches before the next season begins. How many teams have we seen change drastically within 12 months. The winners should be given the opportunity to compete at the higher level, otherwise whats the point of competing in the CPL every year. A trip to play on Park Island beats any away trip in the CPL.

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Well I think the 'rapa will give stop out a very good game, I think they will cruise through the playoffs and next year they will be in the league.
 
Smithy, on the British playoffs system, I have no idea where I stand.  It is extremely exciting but also produces Derby, and gets Dean Windass back in the premiership.  What can you say?

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I see two issues with the playoff system. 

1) Whether there is automatic relegation
2) Whether the structure (who plays who) is good.
 
Baggies makes a good point regarding why should the CL team have the advantage. They shouldn't.  I think it should go something like this.
 
1) Winner Pacific versus CL (H/A)
2) Winner Western versus PL (H/A)
 
(you could easily have different matchups.  But to be fair i think these semi should be randomly assigned).
 
3) Winner 1 versus winner 2. (H/A)  Winner gets place in CL.
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Wet and Forget


Park Life is the Fever's over-worked under-paid fan of local football. Today we look back on last weekend�s crazy Big Travel League results and wonder what the f*ck was going on!

Mar Mug Marist of Deserved Points in Dying Minutes

The weekend before last The Mar suffered their first defeat of the year 2-1 against Dunedin Technical in the quarterfinals of the Chatham Cup. They hit this one expecting to bounce back with a win that would take them one step closer to winning the league with games in hand.

Marist had other ideas. Last time Marist played Mar they got a 6-0 spanking in which even Champs� Own Jamie Farrington got on the scoresheet. But they are a new team since then and have been in good form lately with four consecutive wins over top sides Lower Hutt, Petone, Napier and Olympic before last week�s upset loss to Team Naki.

Miramar was without the injured Nik Tromp which saw Brook Tozer come into the midfield. Tony Wall returned to the starting line-up in place of Gerard Brown while Rupert Crump came in on the bench.

Miramar controlled the opening exchanges producing attacking raids down the flanks through Allen Chote and Jamie Farrington who were keeping the Marist back four busy. In the 7th minute David Batty gained possession on halfway and delivered a long ball out to the right which found Dominic Rowe in space. Rowe surged toward the goal and cut inside his defender and delivered a low shot which was saved well by Andrew Bailey into the bottom post, however in the aftermath his defender somehow managed to clear the ball into Bailey�s back as he got back up off the ground and he could only watch as it drifted over the line to give Miramar a mad-cap 1-0 lead.

Graham Mulvey�s 28th minute header was cancelled out by an offside call but as the half went on Marist began to come back into the match, with Josh Smith and Adam Cowen starting to gain possession and dominate in the middle. In the 31st minute Pablo Jackson was given space down the right flank and delivered a cross that found Gustavo Saralegui inside the box. Saralegui controlled the ball and side-footed past keeper Hall at the far post to make it 1-1.

A few minutes later Mulvey again came close, he found space inside the box, turned his marker and his powerful left foot shot was only denied by the upright.

Marist continued to press with Saralegui missing a great chance following good work by Scott Robson on the right. Their second came in the 43rd minute. A defensive mix-up found Cowan in space just on the Miramar side of half way. He surged towards goal, turning his defender and then delivering a powerful shot which was only partially cleared by the Miramar defence and was met by an open Nick Roydhouse who slotted past Hall to make 2-1 to Marist at the break.

Miramar coach Graham Little made a change at the break, bringing on Tommy Smith for Mulvey upfront, but Cowan continued to threaten in the middle

As the half wore on both sides struggled to maintain possession and capitalise on the opportunities being created going forward. The best opportunity fell to Rowe who found space just on the Marist side of half way. Rowe surged towards goal, losing his defender but then failed to round Bailey in goal, and in the aftermath Finlay Milne cleared for Marist.

In the 74th minute Chris Peck came on for Brook Tozer on the left as Miramar searched for an equaliser, a few minutes later Batty was replaced by Gerard Brown. Marist continued to hold tight as Miramar poured men forward, in the 80th minute Tommy Smith turned his marker and his curling left foot shot sailed past the Bailey and just wide of the top right hand corner.

As the game entered injury time a Brown corner could only be headed wide by an open Rowe. With time almost up Marist were controlling possession and on track to be the first side since Wests who won 4-0 in May 2007 to defeat Miramar at home in a Central League match but tragedy struck in the 93rd minute when a poor goal kick from Bailey was played back over the right hand side defence by Michael Eagar to an open Brown 40 metes out from goal. Brown delivered a pinpoint right foot finish past a despairing Bailey into the bottom left hand corner to secure a dramatic point for the Mar.

Mar keep their unbeaten record. Marist left wondering what might have been.

Draws Continue at Endeavour

It�s been Wests Hate Week on the Fever Forums as all and sundry have a crack at them for stacking their reserve team.

Not many have bothered to poke fun at their draw with Stop Out. That�s an oversight that needs correcting we think.

Without a hatful of first teamers this was always going to be Stop Out�s best chance in a long time of getting some points against one of the big boys and they stepped up to deliver.

Midfielder and sometimes Peter Crouch impersonator John McKay came back to dance the robot off the bench but it was Stop Out�s new import, who is apparently the business and was, we�re told, instrumental in bossing a midfield that was missing a few regulars. This result is even more commendable for Stop Out given that they were without $teven Gulley.

While this point will be satisfying for a squad that has spent most of the year getting pasted and has amassed an enormous 11 goals conceded for every point they�ve won.

They will be firmly focussed on a playoff series that has come in for as big a battering as Wests have on the Fever forums this week.

That playoff is likely to be against the Champs Premier League winner � probably Wairarapa United although Tawa and Island Bay are still within a shout � but there is an outside chance it will be against some random Central Soccer team: Napier Marist? Red Sox?

Could be interesting and provide an entertaining end of season attraction to what has been a fascinating Big Travel League.

Wellington United Arse And Stay Next To Bottom

The Oranje had a good win against fellow strugglers Team Naki away in the Yarrow.

It was a morale boosting win for the Oranje who have suffered a slump to second bottom on the league since Captain Pancreas and a bunch of others started deserting them earlier in the season.

In this one they started slowly again. The Naki got on the scoreboard after 15 minutes when Tyson Brandt smashed home (with his arm allegedly) from close range to give them a 1-0 lead. The Oranje wrestled their way back into things though and in the 26th minute Andy Johnstone robbed the ball off the Naki defenders before slotting home the equaliser past a despairing Michael Reive.

United came out stronger in the second half and took the lead early on through Andy Johnston when he bundled in after some good midfield work but United didn�t have much time to enjoy that 2-1 lead before they conceded a penalty for a lazy challenge that Nathan Hill rifled past Dale Warburton to tie things up.

And that was how it looked like it would stay. Rossco was busy penning his �happy with a point after a closely fought game� post match speech when up popped a massive Larry Longball from Warburton that resulted either in an Own Goal or in Joe Corcoran smashing it home � depending on who you believe.

Three points for Rossco�s lot that they didn�t really deserve and which doesn�t help them sneak off the bottom. The Naki lose a point they might have had but which will make no real difference to them. Both teams will be absolutely stoked that there is that magic Stop Out-shaped cushion at the bottom of the table.

Fiery Clash On Weka Wembley Ends In Bore Draw

Our man in the stands tells us that Olympic and Lower Hutt were given three venues they could use for this fixture. The best of them by a mile was Weka Park on the Coast With The Most so up they went to battle out a feisty but ultimately bollocks 2-2 draw.

Ginger Ronaldo opened the scoring, putting Lower Hutt 1-0 up early doors. It was all Lower Hutt for the first half and Pedro 5 Goals got on the board as well with a smart finish to give them a 2-0 half time lead.

Big Old Adam Church � whose picture still hangs proudly in Wilson United�s Ole Academy � began the fight back for Olympic when mad-cap mentalist Nephew Nick van Hattum came flying out to punch a high ball, missed it, and then two-footed Church who was heading goalwards. Lucky for Nephew Nick that someone was back covering. He escaped even a booking but the penalty was converted.

Shaun Easthope changed the game when he came on and it was in the midfield where he upped the tempo that Olympic eventually turned things around.

The fiery encounter deteriorated � Best and Fairest Raf allegedly gave Pedro 5 Goals one in the face and also had a scuffle with Luis � but Olympic held their bottle to find an equaliser and grab a valuable point.

Petone Go Briefly Top By Rolling Rovers

Mark Foster could well have been forgiven for lighting up a cigar after the victory at Napier on Saturday.

He�s taken an unfancied, freshly promoted, community club to the top of the Central League with a fraction of the financial resources of other clubs � especially their next door neighbour clubs. He must surely be top of everyone�s list for Coach of the Season (is there such a thing?) for combining, as he has, experienced club stalwarts (like Puma's Own Jim Bannatyne whose Cruyff count of ONE was hardly befitting of his snazzy new red boots - see ad below - but whose clubroom attire did suit the slightly gay pink leather handbag that came with them) with exciting young club-developed talent (like afro twins M Pickering and R McLay).

Two goals to sneaky midfield terrorist Benn Dawson � one of them a 35 yard screamer volley into the bottom corner from a cross from the left hand side � and a third from lanky veteran Whitmarsh gave Petone the win and Fozzie the chance to bask in the temporary glory of being briefly top of the league. Well done Fozz.

Napier hang on in third though thanks to another Petone relative: Andy Pickering.

Pickering, part of the famously frizzy clan of Petone stalwarts and cousin (or something) of opponent on the day Mikey Pickering, scored Napier�s consolation goal in a surprise appearance for Rovers.

And In Other News�

Jimmy 'the Hitman' Hill marked his return to form with a hat trick in Wharfies 8-3 spanking of Island Bay. The rout came in the second half when Karori hit six of the best past Granville in the Island Bay goal. Shop Boy was looking for a place to hide by the time the final whistle came around.

Fortunately the Island Bay supporter on police watch at the ground entrance was not called into action.

With all the underdogs winning on the weekend - spots 4-10 in the league are wide open. Wests are doing more stacking than a Naenae player on night shift to avoid the drop which should set up an exciting run out of the year from early pace setters, now strugglers, Karori.

And that�s it until the Preview.

Coming at you soon.

Until then.

Park Life


Cnut2008-07-30 23:33:03
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bout time - though you are interupting our petty argument.
Can you fix the formatting? its going off the page
 
..and you cant add a cheap shot about Karori onto a sentence that i wrote!
Feverish2008-07-30 22:36:53

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Thanks Park Life. As always.
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No allegedly about it.  Tyson even admitted afterward.  Although to be fair to him it wasn't on purpose.  The penalty was dodgy as well.  I think i heard that the TT coach said the ref was conned into giving it a penalty.  Thats four penalties against us in 4 weeks i think. 2ndBest2008-07-31 00:19:00
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2ndBest wrote:

I see two issues with the playoff system. 

1) Whether there is automatic relegation
2) Whether the structure (who plays who) is good.
 
Baggies makes a good point regarding why should the CL team have the advantage. They shouldn't.  I think it should go something like this.
 
1) Winner Pacific versus CL (H/A)
2) Winner Western versus PL (H/A)
 
(you could easily have different matchups.  But to be fair i think these semi should be randomly assigned).
 
3) Winner 1 versus winner 2. (H/A)  Winner gets place in CL.
 
To be honest I think that's a lot more unfair than the current system, even if it is assigned randomly
 
I think the team with the coolest strip should be automatically promoted

Normo's coming home

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Who would win that battle?

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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not a chance.
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james dean wrote:
To be honest I think that's a lot more unfair than the current system, even if it is assigned randomly
 
I think the team with the coolest strip should be automatically promoted
 
How is it more unfair.
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james dean wrote:
2ndBest wrote:

I see two issues with the playoff system. 

1) Whether there is automatic relegation
2) Whether the structure (who plays who) is good.
 
Baggies makes a good point regarding why should the CL team have the advantage. They shouldn't.  I think it should go something like this.
 
1) Winner Pacific versus CL (H/A)
2) Winner Western versus PL (H/A)
 
(you could easily have different matchups.  But to be fair i think these semi should be randomly assigned).
 
3) Winner 1 versus winner 2. (H/A)  Winner gets place in CL.
 
To be honest I think that's a lot more unfair than the current system, even if it is assigned randomly
 
I think the team with the coolest strip should be automatically promoted
 
Thats a better system 2nd best.. It includes the Bottom Central league team right from the start and would make the play offs alot more interesting.. If you look at it from a Eastern or Western Point of view its a hell of alot fairer because at present they have to play the most games in the play offs in the current system
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2ndBest wrote:
james dean wrote:
To be honest I think that's a lot more unfair than the current system, even if it is assigned randomly
 
I think the team with the coolest strip should be automatically promoted
 
How is it more unfair.
 
Because one team gets to play a central league team, who come from a higher division and one gets to play a team from the pacific premiership

Normo's coming home

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james dean wrote:
2ndBest wrote:
james dean wrote:
To be honest I think that's a lot more unfair than the current system, even if it is assigned randomly
 
I think the team with the coolest strip should be automatically promoted
 
How is it more unfair.
 
Because one team gets to play a central league team, who come from a higher division and one gets to play a team from the pacific premiership
 
I get what your saying but the whole objective is to win the play off against the Bottom placed CL team.. Would it really make that much difference if the bottom place CL team started in the draw with the three other teams? There eventually going to have to play them sooner or later if they want in Central league..
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If the whole objective is to play and beat the CL team (and I have already given my thoughts on the matter) then the current system is the fairest.  But for arguments sake here is a scenario that I think is unfair.
 
Team A knocks out the CL team and then loses in the final to the team C, who are promoted.  Team C never played or beat the CL team but gets promoted.
 
If you want to include CL team in a playoff then everyone should play everybody, or stick to the current system.
 
Guess the point is there is no perfect system, every promotion relgation has flaws but the one which matters is the current one because that is what Tawa, Rapa or some other team will have to deal with!
 
Smithy I am unsure on coolest strip but I would autmoatically rule out the 'rapa, red and green only looks good on south sydney.
 
ANy other nominations for coolest strip, or worst strip?
james dean2008-07-31 22:35:32

Normo's coming home

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The Warf...or just Greenie wearing it.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Transfer for saturday.  Tranfered off Newtown
 
Wellington United           __    Miramar Rangers                __    Centennial,

Lower Hutt City              __    Team Taranaki                   __    Fraser 2,

Petone                          __    Olympic                              __    Weka 2, 

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
that is confirmed. Newtown underwater.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Does that mean you have to take the chicken curry on tour?
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
no lets be sensible and drag everyone drag everyone back to Newtown for a feed.
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