Western and Pacific Premierships

hotchips wrote:

 bigfudge wrote:

 mraotxt2 wrote:

 hotchips wrote:

 mraotxt2 wrote:
Prem Cup East
Napier City Rovers Res 14-0 Gisborne Thistle 

Sounds like Thistle travelled with a very very young inexperienced team. Not even close to their usual side. Scoreline isn’t a surprise 

Havelock North 6-0 Port Hill 
Havelock North absolutely clinical finishing, they probably had 8 clear cut chances and scored 6 of them. Considering how boggy the pitch was, they passed the ball around beautifully. 

There are rumours they fielded multiple cup tied players, will be interested to see if anything comes of that  


 

Samuel Wait, Tomas Suarez, Jack Pyott all cup-tied by playing for their ressies.

It's a stupid rule but it's still a rule.

It’s a stupid rule until you are in the reserve league and play against half a Prems starting team 🤷‍♂️

Although they lost that game, so it could be a double backfire.

This feels very harsh, especially when you see that Port Hill didn't have the chance to get cup-tied because they defaulted their only D1 cup game against Rovers in the first round.

Feels like they're being rewarded for defaulting. Also, 3 players dropping down can hardly be considered playing against "half a Prems starting team".

The part I think is stupid is that players are cup tied up, not familiar enough with their team to know if they are normally prems players. Dropping players into lower grades is shitty and them ending up punished for doing that is just desserts I guess.

bigfudge wrote:

 mraotxt2 wrote:

 hotchips wrote:

 mraotxt2 wrote:
Prem Cup East
Napier City Rovers Res 14-0 Gisborne Thistle 

Sounds like Thistle travelled with a very very young inexperienced team. Not even close to their usual side. Scoreline isn’t a surprise 

Havelock North 6-0 Port Hill 
Havelock North absolutely clinical finishing, they probably had 8 clear cut chances and scored 6 of them. Considering how boggy the pitch was, they passed the ball around beautifully. 

There are rumours they fielded multiple cup tied players, will be interested to see if anything comes of that  


 

Samuel Wait, Tomas Suarez, Jack Pyott all cup-tied by playing for their ressies.

It's a stupid rule but it's still a rule.

It’s a stupid rule until you are in the reserve league and play against half a Prems starting team 🤷‍♂️

Although they lost that game, so it could be a double backfire.

This feels very harsh, especially when you see that Port Hill didn't have the chance to get cup-tied because they defaulted their only D1 cup game against Rovers in the first round.

Feels like they're being rewarded for defaulting. Also, 3 players dropping down can hardly be considered playing against "half a Prems starting team".

bigfudge wrote:

 hotchips wrote:

 bigfudge wrote:

 mraotxt2 wrote:

 hotchips wrote:

 mraotxt2 wrote:
Prem Cup East
Napier City Rovers Res 14-0 Gisborne Thistle 

Sounds like Thistle travelled with a very very young inexperienced team. Not even close to their usual side. Scoreline isn’t a surprise 

Havelock North 6-0 Port Hill 
Havelock North absolutely clinical finishing, they probably had 8 clear cut chances and scored 6 of them. Considering how boggy the pitch was, they passed the ball around beautifully. 

There are rumours they fielded multiple cup tied players, will be interested to see if anything comes of that  


 

Samuel Wait, Tomas Suarez, Jack Pyott all cup-tied by playing for their ressies.

It's a stupid rule but it's still a rule.

It’s a stupid rule until you are in the reserve league and play against half a Prems starting team 🤷‍♂️

Although they lost that game, so it could be a double backfire.

This feels very harsh, especially when you see that Port Hill didn't have the chance to get cup-tied because they defaulted their only D1 cup game against Rovers in the first round.

Feels like they're being rewarded for defaulting. Also, 3 players dropping down can hardly be considered playing against "half a Prems starting team".

The part I think is stupid is that players are cup tied up, not familiar enough with their team to know if they are normally prems players. Dropping players into lower grades is shitty and them ending up punished for doing that is just desserts I guess.

How is dropping players to your reserve team shitty? Its local football, squads don't always have enough players so especially with any first team/reserve team dynamic, a few players will move between teams to help out with numbers. 

Can you explain what you mean by "not familiar enough with their team to know if they are normally prems players"? Also, I believe the first team had a bye that week so it could've just been a mix of their ressies needing some players and then a few first teamers wanting some minutes.

It's more that whilst the rules have been massively stuffed up and are poorly written, they outline that whilst you are sweet as to drop players down in the league, you are not supposed to do it in the cup. I struggle to see any benefit from not allowing players to move up but that's how the rules have been written and they were communicated to all clubs last week.

"not familiar enough with their team to know if they are normally prems players" I was not familiar with Havelock North's players until looking at the team cards now.
There's another poorly written rule that would potentially have seen them booted from the champ cup is below. That to me means if you are graded to Prems you don't get to play champ cup - looking at the cards one of them is the Prems captain

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hotchips wrote:

 bigfudge wrote:

 hotchips wrote:

 bigfudge wrote:

 mraotxt2 wrote:

 hotchips wrote:

 mraotxt2 wrote:
Prem Cup East
Napier City Rovers Res 14-0 Gisborne Thistle 

Sounds like Thistle travelled with a very very young inexperienced team. Not even close to their usual side. Scoreline isn’t a surprise 

Havelock North 6-0 Port Hill 
Havelock North absolutely clinical finishing, they probably had 8 clear cut chances and scored 6 of them. Considering how boggy the pitch was, they passed the ball around beautifully. 

There are rumours they fielded multiple cup tied players, will be interested to see if anything comes of that  


 

Samuel Wait, Tomas Suarez, Jack Pyott all cup-tied by playing for their ressies.

It's a stupid rule but it's still a rule.

It’s a stupid rule until you are in the reserve league and play against half a Prems starting team 🤷‍♂️

Although they lost that game, so it could be a double backfire.

This feels very harsh, especially when you see that Port Hill didn't have the chance to get cup-tied because they defaulted their only D1 cup game against Rovers in the first round.

Feels like they're being rewarded for defaulting. Also, 3 players dropping down can hardly be considered playing against "half a Prems starting team".

The part I think is stupid is that players are cup tied up, not familiar enough with their team to know if they are normally prems players. Dropping players into lower grades is shitty and them ending up punished for doing that is just desserts I guess.

How is dropping players to your reserve team shitty? Its local football, squads don't always have enough players so especially with any first team/reserve team dynamic, a few players will move between teams to help out with numbers. 

Can you explain what you mean by "not familiar enough with their team to know if they are normally prems players"? Also, I believe the first team had a bye that week so it could've just been a mix of their ressies needing some players and then a few first teamers wanting some minutes.

It's more that whilst the rules have been massively stuffed up and are poorly written, they outline that whilst you are sweet as to drop players down in the league, you are not supposed to do it in the cup. I struggle to see any benefit from not allowing players to move up but that's how the rules have been written and they were communicated to all clubs last week.

"not familiar enough with their team to know if they are normally prems players" I was not familiar with Havelock North's players until looking at the team cards now.
There's another poorly written rule that would potentially have seen them booted from the champ cup is below. That to me means if you are graded to Prems you don't get to play champ cup - looking at the cards one of them is the Prems captain

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