Women's Central League

reubee wrote:

 Simon B wrote:

 HuttValleyHunter wrote:
What’s the story with Women’s CL this year?…Do they follow the same comp structure as men’s central league?

The WCL regulations are still aligned with MCL2, since it's a Capital/Central Fed competition rather than an NZF one like the MCL. In particular they have similar transitional provisions for the new 2027 league structure - no relegation this year and the future promotion pathway into WCL to be determined following consultation.

One difference from MCL2 is that entry into the 2027 Women's National League is already spelt out:

* Top four NRFL teams (where "top" is a weighted average of 2022-2026 performance)
* Top two WCL
* Top two WSL
* Nix and AFC Reserves (implying AFC will have a Women's Reserves team up and going by then)

I know there are questions around whether MCL2 will still exist in 2027, but sounds like WCL's future is pretty solid?

Have NZF put anything out to show the current standings after the 2022-2025 seasons?  The regs refers to "position" and not "points", if "position" then how does the determination account for different number of teams in a league from one season to next or a team not being in the league, if "points" then does the calculation adjust for different number of games per season?

LT01 wrote:
Saw Karori vs PNM at karori park, 10-0 to Karori. 5 in each half.

Gee, one way traffic really though I didn't expect any different, Karori looking like they might just power in the most goals this year. I see they've also got Emma Andrew in goal now was at United in the national league last year.

Renee Bacon was such a presence up front and I think bagged about 3 of the 10, also thought Taylor Cooper on the left wing first half then right wing second half was very impressive continued to get in behind the PNM defence and scored a couple. I think about three or four others scored as well.

Not really a lot to take from a game like this - both teams will be looking forward to games against teams on their level.

HuttValleyHunter wrote:
Wellington united with their first loss in central league in many years it feels! Tracked it back on the Capital football and it was August 2023!!!

LT01 wrote:
Karori won away in Petone, big result! Starting to look like division favourites.

Elsewhere - big 3-2 win in Palmy for Taradale! Hitting back after their loss to Seatoun. Tough start to the season for PNM

bigfudge wrote:

 Simon B wrote:
It’s sad that they had to make this decision, but reading the press release I respect the committee for making the hard call that’s in the players’ and the club’s best interests.

The logistical challenges of being right on the outskirts of the region must make it tough - even if CF fund travel (I think I read that somewhere?), it’s a lot more time on the road compared to say the Wellington teams. I wonder how Taradale find it?

Apparently Taradale are struggling for numbers. Majority of their best players have moved to Napier City Rovers in Feds.

Seems like you are not wrong there. Had one on the bench and one token manager who was beyond masters age. Be interesting to see if they can keep putting out an away game team. Even the ref took pity on them in not sending off (or even booking) a player who thought she was the goalie 😂

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LT01 wrote:
Wowee - Palmerston North united beat Waterside Karori 2-0! Shock of the season up in Palmy!!

More predictable in todays other games - Wellington United with a big win at taradale and Miramar doing well to come back and win 3-1 against Seatoun, looking a decent shot to be top half this year.

The JourneyFan wrote:

 LT01 wrote:
Wowee - Palmerston North united beat Waterside Karori 2-0! Shock of the season up in Palmy!!

More predictable in todays other games - Wellington United with a big win at taradale and Miramar doing well to come back and win 3-1 against Seatoun, looking a decent shot to be top half this year.

Oh dear, and on Feverish's birthday as well :-)

Feverish wrote:
Wharf 3-1 down last I saw and must have come back to win late with ten players. I’m guessing it is same old nix story with teams differing weekly and vested interests at play..

Simon B wrote:

 Feverish wrote:
Wharf 3-1 down last I saw and must have come back to win late with ten players. I’m guessing it is same old nix story with teams differing weekly and vested interests at play..

Not sure what you mean by "vested interests" (and I probably don't want to know), but it certainly was a different team with the Nix goalscorers Pugh and McDonald dropping down from the Reserves.

Looking back over the line-ups I'd missed the fact that Tessel Middag coached the U18s for their away game against PNM. I wonder if we'll see more of her in that role?

Also, Petone 10-0 over VUW this morning. Ouch.

Feverish wrote:
Karori has played Seatoun but not Vic Uni so it ain’t the conclusion of round one - it’s just a clusterfk draw!

Feverish wrote:
Boy Marist got smoked

Feverish wrote:

 Feverish wrote:
Boy Marist got smoked

I thought Jerez was going to be the next big thing? Was she playing Nix academy and let go?

Feverish wrote:
Boy Marist got smoked

LT01 wrote:
Ella McMillan is playing at Karori as well? Maybe in long offseason they're still looking for minutes?

Unknwn Quantity wrote:
Upset of the round - Miramar taking 2 points from Petone with a 0-0 draw at home. Did anyone see the game? Petone perhaps on borrowed time at the top. Although that point might prove decisive come National League qualification (for this year at least).

Has anyone done the maths? I imagine there is a scenario where Petone can qualify for National League this year with Karori missing out, and then still miss out on National League for 2027.

Unknwn Quantity wrote:
Upset of the round - Miramar taking 2 points from Petone with a 0-0 draw at home. Did anyone see the game? Petone perhaps on borrowed time at the top. Although that point might prove decisive come National League qualification (for this year at least).

Has anyone done the maths? I imagine there is a scenario where Petone can qualify for National League this year with Karori missing out, and then still miss out on National League for 2027.

reubee wrote:

 Unknwn Quantity wrote:
Upset of the round - Miramar taking 2 points from Petone with a 0-0 draw at home. Did anyone see the game? Petone perhaps on borrowed time at the top. Although that point might prove decisive come National League qualification (for this year at least).

Has anyone done the maths? I imagine there is a scenario where Petone can qualify for National League this year with Karori missing out, and then still miss out on National League for 2027.

My unverified maths had Petone at the start of the season needing to beat Waterside by 3 positions or Wellington Utd by 5 positions for 2027 qualification. 

Unknwn Quantity wrote:
Pretty sure they decided to go for position based qualifying

Southernix wrote:
They used the suitably vague term "performance", which doesn't really provide much indication. 

Edit: Correction, they use the suitably vague "performance" for the men's regulations (NZF), but position for the WCL (Capital Football regulation).

Points would be the superior method, but this doesn't really surprise. Strange the wording is different.

Southernix wrote:
Points determine your position, which determines your qualification, so it is the same method. Still would be 2 teams with the most points.

In saying that, it doesn't really surprise me they chose to just use position.

Unknwn Quantity wrote:

 Southernix wrote:
Points determine your position, which determines your qualification, so it is the same method. Still would be 2 teams with the most points.

In saying that, it doesn't really surprise me they chose to just use position.

Not quite, doing it via points creates a much bigger gap across the past 4 seasons. If it were done via points (and my math is correct); Wellington United would have only needed 4 more points to have qualified for next year, and Waterside Karori would have needed 15 more points to qualify. These figures would take them above Petone, assuming they didn't drop a point here on it.
 
Not that this matters of course as this is not the case!

Team             |2022|2023|2024|2025|2026|Weighted|Divide
                 | 10%| 15%| 20%| 25%| 30%|Position|by 0.3
-----------------+----+----+----+----+----+--------+-------
Waterside Karori |  1 |  1 |  2 |  4 |  ? |   1.65 |  5.50
Wellington Utd   |  3 |  2 |  1 |  1 |  ? |   1.05 |  3.50
Petone           |  4 |  4 |  3 |  3 |  ? |   2.35 |  7.80
PN Marist        |  2 |  3 |  4 |  5 |  ? |   2.70 |  9.00