Auckland Pride - Make Auckland Great Again

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So in their first season over 13 games they averaged a crowd over 18,000

That will likely trump any Rugby Super team and they play fudge all games in comparison.

That’s magic for NZ football.



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... ha ha, how could I forget, we were passing critical comments on Logan Rogerson's finishing and then we found out his literal auntie was standing in front of us :D She was very nice about it.

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Erik Paartalu made some on the money calls last night about the Nix. 

Said you cant conceed the fewest fouls, most chances and fewest shots and expect consistent results . . Ie Nix are too nice. They need some mongrel and swagger- some sense of purpose. . 

I feel this applies to the whole organisation  including many of the supports on here too. Perhaps even the city in the current environment. 

In season two the Nix cannot get offended by the antics of AFC but rather match it. You can look down your nose if you like which is something the city prides itself on but we need to embrace this moment in time and at like winners not whingers. 
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AucklandPhoenix
https://i.imgur.com/rO0FoaB.mp4

Some context on the Western Sydney rabble. Can’t see the middle aged port guys doing this in the return leg next season.


Saw this guy in the crowd today at Mt Smart  Thought he might have earned  a small ban or perhaps its difficult to enforce. 
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JasperNix
Erik Paartalu made some on the money calls last night about the Nix. 

Said you cant conceed the fewest fouls, most chances and fewest shots and expect consistent results . . Ie Nix are too nice. They need some mongrel and swagger- some sense of purpose. . 

I feel this applies to the whole organisation  including many of the supports on here too. Perhaps even the city in the current environment. 

In season two the Nix cannot get offended by the antics of AFC but rather match it. You can look down your nose if you like which is something the city prides itself on but we need to embrace this moment in time and at like winners not whingers. 

The “too nice” description does resonate - maybe I’m just showing my tactical ignorance here, but it perplexes me how when the opposition get the ball our usual reaction is to fall back, give them lots of space, and practically escort them up the field.

Compare that to the Reserves game on the weekend where the coaches were hollering “man on!” and no run went unchallenged. Ok, that game featured seven yellows and a red which isn’t a good look for either team, but it sure was some entertaining football.
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Simon B
JasperNix
Erik Paartalu made some on the money calls last night about the Nix. 

Said you cant conceed the fewest fouls, most chances and fewest shots and expect consistent results . . Ie Nix are too nice. They need some mongrel and swagger- some sense of purpose. . 

I feel this applies to the whole organisation  including many of the supports on here too. Perhaps even the city in the current environment. 

In season two the Nix cannot get offended by the antics of AFC but rather match it. You can look down your nose if you like which is something the city prides itself on but we need to embrace this moment in time and at like winners not whingers. 

The “too nice” description does resonate - maybe I’m just showing my tactical ignorance here, but it perplexes me how when the opposition get the ball our usual reaction is to fall back, give them lots of space, and practically escort them up the field.

Compare that to the Reserves game on the weekend where the coaches were hollering “man on!” and no run went unchallenged. Ok, that game featured seven yellows and a red which isn’t a good look for either team, but it sure was some entertaining football.

That's a tactical choice from Chief, he works on a counter attack theory, pressing high occasionally (worked well last season) but more often he'll allow the opposition to have the ball and enter our defensive half before engaging - it's a less energy taxing approach than the high press than AFC used this year.

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AucklandPhoenix
https://i.imgur.com/rO0FoaB.mp4

Some context on the Western Sydney rabble. Can’t see the middle aged port guys doing this in the return leg next season.


Saw this guy in the crowd today at Mt Smart  Thought he might have earned  a small ban or perhaps its difficult to enforce. 
I'm personally dreaming of an AFC/WSW Grand Final. Not because I want biff, but because I want fan intensity

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Simon B
JasperNix
Erik Paartalu made some on the money calls last night about the Nix. 

Said you cant conceed the fewest fouls, most chances and fewest shots and expect consistent results . . Ie Nix are too nice. They need some mongrel and swagger- some sense of purpose. . 

I feel this applies to the whole organisation  including many of the supports on here too. Perhaps even the city in the current environment. 

In season two the Nix cannot get offended by the antics of AFC but rather match it. You can look down your nose if you like which is something the city prides itself on but we need to embrace this moment in time and at like winners not whingers. 

The “too nice” description does resonate - maybe I’m just showing my tactical ignorance here, but it perplexes me how when the opposition get the ball our usual reaction is to fall back, give them lots of space, and practically escort them up the field.

Compare that to the Reserves game on the weekend where the coaches were hollering “man on!” and no run went unchallenged. Ok, that game featured seven yellows and a red which isn’t a good look for either team, but it sure was some entertaining football.

That's a tactical choice from Chief, he works on a counter attack theory, pressing high occasionally (worked well last season) but more often he'll allow the opposition to have the ball and enter our defensive half before engaging - it's a less energy taxing approach than the high press than AFC used this year.

It would be Ok if we press the opposition when they enter our defensive half, not our goal box. It is so frustrating when you see our players running away when opposition players run at us in our own half.
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AucklandPhoenix
https://i.imgur.com/rO0FoaB.mp4

Some context on the Western Sydney rabble. Can’t see the middle aged port guys doing this in the return leg next season.


Saw this guy in the crowd today at Mt Smart  Thought he might have earned  a small ban or perhaps its difficult to enforce. 
Definitely should've been banned, it can't be hard - there is video evidence of him throwing cans which should be an automatic ban
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AucklandPhoenix
https://i.imgur.com/rO0FoaB.mp4

Some context on the Western Sydney rabble. Can’t see the middle aged port guys doing this in the return leg next season.


Saw this guy in the crowd today at Mt Smart  Thought he might have earned  a small ban or perhaps its difficult to enforce. 
I'm personally dreaming of an AFC/WSW Grand Final. Not because I want biff, but because I want fan intensity


That would probably be the best final tbh. 

The in form team vs the best team.

Three for me, and two for them.

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JasperNix
Erik Paartalu made some on the money calls last night about the Nix. 

Said you cant conceed the fewest fouls, most chances and fewest shots and expect consistent results . . Ie Nix are too nice. They need some mongrel and swagger- some sense of purpose. . 

I feel this applies to the whole organisation  including many of the supports on here too. Perhaps even the city in the current environment. 

In season two the Nix cannot get offended by the antics of AFC but rather match it. You can look down your nose if you like which is something the city prides itself on but we need to embrace this moment in time and at like winners not whingers. 

The “too nice” description does resonate - maybe I’m just showing my tactical ignorance here, but it perplexes me how when the opposition get the ball our usual reaction is to fall back, give them lots of space, and practically escort them up the field.

Compare that to the Reserves game on the weekend where the coaches were hollering “man on!” and no run went unchallenged. Ok, that game featured seven yellows and a red which isn’t a good look for either team, but it sure was some entertaining football.

And that in itself shows what a shambles our setup is compared to AFC. Surely your Reserve teams should set up and play the same way as the first team.....AFC totally do 433 week in and week out across both the Reserves and the first team. During the Talay era it was 4222 week in and week out across Academy teams and first team. Problem of course is that it is difficult to replicate a playing style where not even Chief knows how he is setting them up from game to game.  
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Bloody brilliant Auckland FC  !*!*!
Ist season, 1st piece of silverware, the Premiers Plate, 18000 plus average crowd!! Hope you go on and win the Championship.
1st major win for a New Zealand team in the A League competition.
Won with energy, determination, relentless belief, matched by the Port and other supporters.
So good for NZ football, lets celebrate !!

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Below is section of an article on stuff regarding AFC’s player salaries.

Very very interesting and perhaps stops some myths led by other teams regarding their player wages. Which you only really need to look at their roster to figure out was BS.





Director of football Terry McFlynn told Stuff last week they were spending “nowhere near twice as much” as the figure of AU$3m (NZ$3.2m) that Australian Professional Leagues wants to institute as hard salary cap from the 2026-27 season, with a lone exception for one marquee player.
“I think there are clubs that are spending double the salary cap and more, but I think we’re about fourth or fifth across the league, from what we can understand.”

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AucklandPhoenix
Below is section of an article on stuff regarding AFC’s player salaries.

Very very interesting and perhaps stops some myths led by other teams regarding their player wages. Which you only really need to look at their roster to figure out was BS.





Director of football Terry McFlynn told Stuff last week they were spending “nowhere near twice as much” as the figure of AU$3m (NZ$3.2m) that Australian Professional Leagues wants to institute as hard salary cap from the 2026-27 season, with a lone exception for one marquee player.
“I think there are clubs that are spending double the salary cap and more, but I think we’re about fourth or fifth across the league, from what we can understand.”

Just cos McFlynn says it doesnt make it true - AFC are the only one in the league at the moment that have the "new club" lack of restrictions right? Sowho are the clubs that are breaching the cap? Not every club can be the 4th or 5th highest spenders!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360667336/how-auckland-fc-succeeded-where-new-zealands-other-professional-mens-football-teams-have-failed

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AucklandPhoenix
Below is section of an article on stuff regarding AFC’s player salaries.

Very very interesting and perhaps stops some myths led by other teams regarding their player wages. Which you only really need to look at their roster to figure out was BS.





Director of football Terry McFlynn told Stuff last week they were spending “nowhere near twice as much” as the figure of AU$3m (NZ$3.2m) that Australian Professional Leagues wants to institute as hard salary cap from the 2026-27 season, with a lone exception for one marquee player.
“I think there are clubs that are spending double the salary cap and more, but I think we’re about fourth or fifth across the league, from what we can understand.”

Just cos McFlynn says it doesnt make it true - AFC are the only one in the league at the moment that have the "new club" lack of restrictions right? Sowho are the clubs that are breaching the cap? Not every club can be the 4th or 5th highest spenders!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360667336/how-auckland-fc-succeeded-where-new-zealands-other-professional-mens-football-teams-have-failed


he isn't saying other clubs are breaching the cap - with the soft cap at the moment there are many legal ways teams can be spending double the cap - which is what the A-League are looking to stop.
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But he is trying to say they arent spending the reported $7m? 
I'm assuming the current cap is treated like the NRL cap was back in the day, before it was tightened up. Players wives would get jobs in the club and get paid insane money, houses and other costs would be sponsored and none of that was captured. Hopefully the APL tightening of the rules will stop the "it's allowed" bending of the rules.

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Yes, that is directly what he is saying.

Who would you believe, some rival CEO, who is trying to plant bull shark in an attempt to divert attention from their cluster fudge of a season and why the can’t compete or the club themselves?

In terms of who would potentially be ahead of them, I would say Sydney, Western Sydney and the two Melbourne clubs.

Probably next year AFC may even reduce their wages with Paulson off their books and potentially Mata, Moreno moving on. wouldn’t be surprised if Galloway seeks a release as well.

Obviously however, some of these need replacing, but they can probably get away with an import number 9. A journeyman A league keeper and a couple of local players. 


theprof
But he is trying to say they arent spending the reported $7m? 
I'm assuming the current cap is treated like the NRL cap was back in the day, before it was tightened up. Players wives would get jobs in the club and get paid insane money, houses and other costs would be sponsored and none of that was captured. Hopefully the APL tightening of the rules will stop the "it's allowed" bending of the rules.

Auckland will rise once more

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Yes, that is directly what he is saying.

Who would you believe, some rival CEO, who is trying to plant bull shark in an attempt to divert attention from their cluster fudge of a season and why the can’t compete or the club themselves?

In terms of who would potentially be ahead of them, I would say Sydney, Western Sydney and the two Melbourne clubs.

Probably next year AFC may even reduce their wages with Paulson off their books and potentially Mata, Moreno moving on. wouldn’t be surprised if Galloway seeks a release as well.

Obviously however, some of these need replacing, but they can probably get away with an import number 9. A journeyman A league keeper and a couple of local players. 


theprof
But he is trying to say they arent spending the reported $7m? 
I'm assuming the current cap is treated like the NRL cap was back in the day, before it was tightened up. Players wives would get jobs in the club and get paid insane money, houses and other costs would be sponsored and none of that was captured. Hopefully the APL tightening of the rules will stop the "it's allowed" bending of the rules.

Technically he is the rival CEO throwing the accusation at others to avoid the spotlight himself - it's been reported by several media people that AFC spend was at the $7m figure, not opposition CEO's

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Yep and the article shows that’s bull shark

It would however be good for more transparency like the MLS to stop the scaremongering and tall poppy syndrome 

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AucklandPhoenix
Yep and the article shows that’s bull shark

It would however be good for more transparency like the MLS to stop the scaremongering and tall poppy syndrome 

its not about scaremongering or trying to chop anyone down. We've been told two different and opposing stories, both from sources you'd want to believe - so one has to be wrong. 
like you I'd love to see some transparency on what clubs are spending (without the accountancy magic) on players salaries which are supposed the be controlled by the cap.

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AucklandPhoenix
Yes, that is directly what he is saying.

Who would you believe, some rival CEO, who is trying to plant bull shark in an attempt to divert attention from their cluster fudge of a season and why the can’t compete or the club themselves?

In terms of who would potentially be ahead of them, I would say Sydney, Western Sydney and the two Melbourne clubs.

Probably next year AFC may even reduce their wages with Paulson off their books and potentially Mata, Moreno moving on. wouldn’t be surprised if Galloway seeks a release as well.

Obviously however, some of these need replacing, but they can probably get away with an import number 9. A journeyman A league keeper and a couple of local players. 


theprof
But he is trying to say they arent spending the reported $7m? 
I'm assuming the current cap is treated like the NRL cap was back in the day, before it was tightened up. Players wives would get jobs in the club and get paid insane money, houses and other costs would be sponsored and none of that was captured. Hopefully the APL tightening of the rules will stop the "it's allowed" bending of the rules.
Just gonna start by saying I'm not too bothered by all the wages debate - so long as they are sticking to whatever rules they have to abide by, then they aren't doing anything wrong.

But just on the point about Paulsen not being re-loaned to Auckland potentially helping their wages next season - I did hear a rumour at one point (rumour - so obviously could be completely wrong, but something to consider all the same) that Bournemouth were paying all of Paulsen's wages - so if that's true (big 'if' there I know) him not staying on loan won't reduce their wages.

Also a chance that Bournemouth are subsidising his wages
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Quite surprised that the media have been able to report on all the AFC celebrations, from bar to bar, who drank what etc...
Refreshing almost (apart from that it's them who's doing it).

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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It appears in your case what you want to believe

So apart from the Director of football at AFC, who exactly is your source?

AFC would have been mad not to spend wages in the top 5, if they wanted to compete and make the top six in their first season.
theprof
AucklandPhoenix
Yep and the article shows that’s bull shark

It would however be good for more transparency like the MLS to stop the scaremongering and tall poppy syndrome 

its not about scaremongering or trying to chop anyone down. We've been told two different and opposing stories, both from sources you'd want to believe - so one has to be wrong. 
like you I'd love to see some transparency on what clubs are spending (without the accountancy magic) on players salaries which are supposed the be controlled by the cap.

Auckland will rise once more

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Putting the whole wages thing to the side, is a good AV article digging into the reasons for Auckland's success. Hopefully the Nix hierachy have a bit of a read, though I imagine they already know most of this stuff.

Get super fit. Get a rabbits foot to ward off injuries. Or maybe being super fit takes care of that issue. Replace Wootton with a top drawer CB, to have an excellent defence. Any new recruits (local or visa) be experienced in their mid to late 20s


https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360667336/how-auckland-fc-succeeded-where-new-zealands-other-professional-mens-football-teams-have-failed



Money, money, money
Having the financial backing of a billionaire has played a major part in Auckland’s success – and not just because of what it has allowed them to spend on their squad. Though exactly how much Auckland have spent on their squad remains a mystery...............

..............Beyond what they spend on player salaries, they have been able to afford the luxury of travelling to Australia two days in advance of matches – something the Phoenix have only done sparingly during their 18 years in A-League Men.

Having financial heft – and an owner willing to lose $5 million in year one – has also helped Auckland on the marketing side of things, where their efforts have been rewarded with an average attendance of 18,101 – the best by any A-League Men team since Melbourne Victory’s mark of 20,298 six years ago................

..................The other way Auckland have zigged while their rivals have zagged is with regard to the ages of their players – as was to be expected from a new club that is still only just getting a youth programme up and running.

Since the Covid-19 pandemic, A-League Men has become more and more youthful and the cut to the central distribution has only encouraged teams to give more minutes to young players – both because they're cheaper to sign and because they can be sold for valuable transfer fees.

The youngest player to receive regular playing time for Auckland this season is Australian winger Marlee François – the scorer of their Olimpico winner against Perth on Sunday – who was born on December 29, 2002 and is 22 years old.
Auckland have fielded three players younger than him this season – scholarship players Jonty Bidois, Adama Coulibaly and Finn McKenlay – who have combined to make seven appearances including one start, for a total of 69 minutes – just .28% of the total available minutes through 25 matches.

The situation is drastically different at the other four clubs to have booked playoff spots – Melbourne City, Western United, Wanderers and Melbourne Victory – and the two still fighting for sixth place – Adelaide United and Sydney.

Players born after François (ie those born 2003 or later) have played between 20% and 39% of the available minutes at each of those six clubs, making between 87 and 174 appearances and between 52 and 104 starts.
Age isn't everything, but Auckland have avoided the inconsistency that comes from relying on young, developing players.


Formidable fitness
Auckland have also had consistency of selection, with just one regular starter suffering a major injury this season – centre back Dan Hall, who missed 13 matches with a broken ankle from December to March.

Cam Howieson – who has mostly been used a substitute – was absent for five matches in December and January, but otherwise, Auckland have only suffered minor injuries that have sidelined players for a week or two at most.

Goalkeeper Alex Paulsen, left back Francis de Vries and forward Guillermo May have all started every match, with centre back Nando Pijnaker only missing one, when he was suspended for receiving five yellow cards.
Midfielders Jake Brimmer and Felipe Gallegos have also only missed one match each.

Forward Logan Rogerson has featured in every match, while Tommy Smith has been available for every match, but has sat on the bench unused twice.
Right back Hiroki Sakai and midfielder Louis Verstraete have only missed three matches each.

Auckland have put a lot of stock in their pre-season fitness programme, which helped them get to a level on par with their Premier League sister club, AFC Bournemouth.

That is also viewed as a factor in the next item on the list.


Last-minute winners
Four stoppage-time goals have gained Auckland a total of six points this season, turning two looming draws into wins and two looming defeats into draws.............

......Auckland have also scored three go-ahead goals in the 80th minute or later on their way to picking up three wins and nine points.....................

Louis Verstraete gave Auckland a 2-1 win over Macarthur FC in round 17 with one.
At that stage five of Auckland's 10 wins and two of their five draws – 17 of their 35 points – had been the result of late shows, but they haven't had one for 10 matches and almost three months.


Dominant defence
On the eve of the season, there were a couple of big unknowns about Auckland FC.

Specifically, it was unclear how good their visa players – aside from captain Sakai – would be, and it was unclear to what extent some of their Kiwi players would be able to deliver at A-League Men level.

While the answers turned out to be 'very good' and 'plenty' respectively, their greatest strength has been an area where there was no doubt – their defence.
On paper, the combination of Paulsen – the best goalkeeper in A-League Men in 2023-24, when he was with the Phoenix – in goal and Sakai, Hall, Pijnaker and de Vries as a back four already looked formidable.

And so it has proved on the park.
As a team, Auckland went 532 minutes before conceding their first goal, while winning their first six matches...........

.................
since Hall rejoined Pijnaker at the end of March, they have been back at the top of their game.

In the 11 matches where Hall and Pijnaker have both started, Auckland have conceded just four goals, while in the 14 where one of them was absent (Hall 13 times, Pijnaker once) they have conceded 19.

Overall, Auckland have conceded just 23 goals in 25 matches, with Paulsen keeping 12 clean sheets

As long as they don't concede three against Western United on Saturday, they will finish as one of 18 or 19 teams in the 20-year history of A-League Men to have let in fewer than one goal per game..............

.............The teams in that group already have 11 Premierships (including Auckland’s) and seven Championships between them.

If Auckland do go on to add an eighth Championship at the end of May, their dominant defence will be a big reason why.
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Interesting that know we can believe whats written in the media when for so long doubt has been cast on it.
It certainly wouldnt be a case of Auckland management telling a couple of white lies because everything they say is truthful. Yeah right.
End of the day who cares they were given some concessions being the new team in the league and they used them well.
Wish it was us but laugh at how some have turned on the Nix when they have fought tooth and nail to stay in the league. Because of that fight and sticking around as much as Auckland wont give them credit its one of the reasons i would imagine Auckland were given a 3rd chance at getting it right.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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It appears in your case what you want to believe

So apart from the Director of football at AFC, who exactly is your source?

AFC would have been mad not to spend wages in the top 5, if they wanted to compete and make the top six in their first season.
theprof
AucklandPhoenix
Yep and the article shows that’s bull shark

It would however be good for more transparency like the MLS to stop the scaremongering and tall poppy syndrome 

its not about scaremongering or trying to chop anyone down. We've been told two different and opposing stories, both from sources you'd want to believe - so one has to be wrong. 
like you I'd love to see some transparency on what clubs are spending (without the accountancy magic) on players salaries which are supposed the be controlled by the cap.

My source?, just here and the articles written by media - it wasnt me that raised the $7m in other threads, but it was mentioned more than once and then again in an article on the herald ort stuff - we had nothing contradicting those reports except this most recent article where McFlynn denies the $7m figure. 
Hence I'm now conflicted - yes I believed the $7m figure, mainly because it wasnt shut down immediately when it hit the press - if AFC weren't happy about that figure being out there then surely they'd correct it, but it was well discussed here and in local media. 
 

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theprof
AucklandPhoenix
Below is section of an article on stuff regarding AFC’s player salaries.

Very very interesting and perhaps stops some myths led by other teams regarding their player wages. Which you only really need to look at their roster to figure out was BS.





Director of football Terry McFlynn told Stuff last week they were spending “nowhere near twice as much” as the figure of AU$3m (NZ$3.2m) that Australian Professional Leagues wants to institute as hard salary cap from the 2026-27 season, with a lone exception for one marquee player.
“I think there are clubs that are spending double the salary cap and more, but I think we’re about fourth or fifth across the league, from what we can understand.”

Just cos McFlynn says it doesnt make it true - AFC are the only one in the league at the moment that have the "new club" lack of restrictions right? Sowho are the clubs that are breaching the cap? Not every club can be the 4th or 5th highest spenders!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360667336/how-auckland-fc-succeeded-where-new-zealands-other-professional-mens-football-teams-have-failed


The bit I didn't get was the introduction ......

The Football Kingz went 0-for-10. The New Zealand Knights went 0-for-4. The Wellington Phoenix are 0-for-36 and counting.

Is he saying the Kingz went for 10 years, etc? How am I misreading it? 
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theprof
AucklandPhoenix
Below is section of an article on stuff regarding AFC’s player salaries.

Very very interesting and perhaps stops some myths led by other teams regarding their player wages. Which you only really need to look at their roster to figure out was BS.





Director of football Terry McFlynn told Stuff last week they were spending “nowhere near twice as much” as the figure of AU$3m (NZ$3.2m) that Australian Professional Leagues wants to institute as hard salary cap from the 2026-27 season, with a lone exception for one marquee player.
“I think there are clubs that are spending double the salary cap and more, but I think we’re about fourth or fifth across the league, from what we can understand.”

Just cos McFlynn says it doesnt make it true - AFC are the only one in the league at the moment that have the "new club" lack of restrictions right? Sowho are the clubs that are breaching the cap? Not every club can be the 4th or 5th highest spenders!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360667336/how-auckland-fc-succeeded-where-new-zealands-other-professional-mens-football-teams-have-failed


The bit injury didn't get was the introduction ......

The Football Kingz went 0-for-10. The New Zealand Knights went 0-for-4. The Wellington Phoenix are 0-for-36 and counting.

Is he saying the Kingz went for 10 years, etc? How am I misreading it? 
Each season has a Premiership (regular season) and a Championship (finals series).
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theprof
AucklandPhoenix
Below is section of an article on stuff regarding AFC’s player salaries.

Very very interesting and perhaps stops some myths led by other teams regarding their player wages. Which you only really need to look at their roster to figure out was BS.





Director of football Terry McFlynn told Stuff last week they were spending “nowhere near twice as much” as the figure of AU$3m (NZ$3.2m) that Australian Professional Leagues wants to institute as hard salary cap from the 2026-27 season, with a lone exception for one marquee player.
“I think there are clubs that are spending double the salary cap and more, but I think we’re about fourth or fifth across the league, from what we can understand.”

Just cos McFlynn says it doesnt make it true - AFC are the only one in the league at the moment that have the "new club" lack of restrictions right? Sowho are the clubs that are breaching the cap? Not every club can be the 4th or 5th highest spenders!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360667336/how-auckland-fc-succeeded-where-new-zealands-other-professional-mens-football-teams-have-failed


There is no such thing as "new club" lack of restrictions. They get $400,000 extra cap room – the average amount of loyalty/homegrown exceptions other clubs had the season before, because as a new club they don't have loyal or homegrown players.
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theprof
AucklandPhoenix
Below is section of an article on stuff regarding AFC’s player salaries.

Very very interesting and perhaps stops some myths led by other teams regarding their player wages. Which you only really need to look at their roster to figure out was BS.





Director of football Terry McFlynn told Stuff last week they were spending “nowhere near twice as much” as the figure of AU$3m (NZ$3.2m) that Australian Professional Leagues wants to institute as hard salary cap from the 2026-27 season, with a lone exception for one marquee player.
“I think there are clubs that are spending double the salary cap and more, but I think we’re about fourth or fifth across the league, from what we can understand.”

Just cos McFlynn says it doesnt make it true - AFC are the only one in the league at the moment that have the "new club" lack of restrictions right? Sowho are the clubs that are breaching the cap? Not every club can be the 4th or 5th highest spenders!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360667336/how-auckland-fc-succeeded-where-new-zealands-other-professional-mens-football-teams-have-failed


There is no such thing as "new club" lack of restrictions. They get $400,000 extra cap room – the average amount of loyalty/homegrown exceptions other clubs had the season before, because as a new club they don't have loyal or homegrown players.

I'm not doubting you, but are the salary cap regulations published anywhere? The official documents page isn't exactly comprehensive. 
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Simon B
andrewvoerman
theprof
AucklandPhoenix
Below is section of an article on stuff regarding AFC’s player salaries.

Very very interesting and perhaps stops some myths led by other teams regarding their player wages. Which you only really need to look at their roster to figure out was BS.





Director of football Terry McFlynn told Stuff last week they were spending “nowhere near twice as much” as the figure of AU$3m (NZ$3.2m) that Australian Professional Leagues wants to institute as hard salary cap from the 2026-27 season, with a lone exception for one marquee player.
“I think there are clubs that are spending double the salary cap and more, but I think we’re about fourth or fifth across the league, from what we can understand.”

Just cos McFlynn says it doesnt make it true - AFC are the only one in the league at the moment that have the "new club" lack of restrictions right? Sowho are the clubs that are breaching the cap? Not every club can be the 4th or 5th highest spenders!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360667336/how-auckland-fc-succeeded-where-new-zealands-other-professional-mens-football-teams-have-failed


There is no such thing as "new club" lack of restrictions. They get $400,000 extra cap room – the average amount of loyalty/homegrown exceptions other clubs had the season before, because as a new club they don't have loyal or homegrown players.

I'm not doubting you, but are the salary cap regulations published anywhere? The official documents page isn't exactly comprehensive. 
They aren't – and I find this as frustrating as you do.

The last public digest I know of is here. The only change I know of since then is that the salary cap is $2.6m now, not $2.55m (AUD). 

Obviously APL has proposed to make it a $3m hard cap from the 2026-27 season, with one exception for one marquee player, and with six of the players within the $3m needing to be under-21.
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11 months ago
Salary cap - the new copium coming in hot to replace “AFC haven’t had to deal with pressure” … “AFC have only scored lucky goals” … “haven’t played big teams yet” … “have only played in NZ”
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11 months ago
You forgot have not won after conceding a goal, let’s see how they react to that 😂

Which is still actually relevant!!

Auckland will rise once more

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Half a Pint
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Yes, that is directly what he is saying.

Who would you believe, some rival CEO, who is trying to plant bull shark in an attempt to divert attention from their cluster fudge of a season and why the can’t compete or the club themselves?

In terms of who would potentially be ahead of them, I would say Sydney, Western Sydney and the two Melbourne clubs.

Probably next year AFC may even reduce their wages with Paulson off their books and potentially Mata, Moreno moving on. wouldn’t be surprised if Galloway seeks a release as well.

Obviously however, some of these need replacing, but they can probably get away with an import number 9. A journeyman A league keeper and a couple of local players. 


theprof
But he is trying to say they arent spending the reported $7m? 
I'm assuming the current cap is treated like the NRL cap was back in the day, before it was tightened up. Players wives would get jobs in the club and get paid insane money, houses and other costs would be sponsored and none of that was captured. Hopefully the APL tightening of the rules will stop the "it's allowed" bending of the rules.
Just gonna start by saying I'm not too bothered by all the wages debate - so long as they are sticking to whatever rules they have to abide by, then they aren't doing anything wrong.

But just on the point about Paulsen not being re-loaned to Auckland potentially helping their wages next season - I did hear a rumour at one point (rumour - so obviously could be completely wrong, but something to consider all the same) that Bournemouth were paying all of Paulsen's wages - so if that's true (big 'if' there I know) him not staying on loan won't reduce their wages.

Also a chance that Bournemouth are subsidising his wages

I think there is some provision about multi-club ownership where even in this scenario a percentage (might be all) of the wages paid by the parent club are included in the cap unless a marquee player of course.
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11 months ago
Wow - he's gonna be bigger than City group soon.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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Auckland take a full strength squad to Melbs. They of course get next weekend off.

Bitumens (3rd, 44 pts, +16 GD) will be desperate to finish 2nd. They need to win or draw, and hope Sydney beat Melb City (2nd, 45 pts, +12 GD) at AAMI Park. That game kicks off 1 hour prior.

https://us.soccerway.com/national/australia/a-league/20242025/regular-season/r82361/

Western United v Auckland FC
Saturday, May 3 – Ironbark Fields – 6pm AEST

Western United squad:
4. James DONACHIE, 5. Oliver LAVALE, 6. Tomoki IMAI, 7. Ramy NAJJARINE, 9. Hiroshi IBUSUKI, 10. Matthew GRIMALDI, 17. Ben GARUCCIO (c), 19. Noah BOTIC, 20. Abel WALATEE, 21. Sebastian PASQUALI, 23. Rhys BOZINOVSKI, 24. Michael RUHS, 29. Charbel SHAMOON, 30. Dylan LEONARD, 32. Angus THURGATE, 33. Matt SUTTON (gk), 37. Luke VICKERY, 44. Jordan LAUTON, 70. Michael VONJA (gk), 77. Riku DANZAKI

(Two to be omitted)
Ins: 9. Hiroshi IBUSUKI (returns from injury), 21. Sebastian PASQUALI
Outs: Nil
Unavailable: 13. Tate RUSSELL (injured)


Auckland FC squad:
 
1. Michael WOUD, 2. Hiroki SAKAI, 4. Nando PIJNAKER, 5. Tommy SMITH, 6. Louis VERSTRAETE, 7. Cameron HOWIESON, 8. Luis TOOMEY, 9. Max MATA, 10. Guillermo MAY, 11. Marlee FRANÇOIS, 12. Alex PAULSEN, 14. Liam GILLION, 15. Francis DE VRIES, 17. Callan ELLIOT, 21. Jesse RANDALL, 22. Jake BRIMMER, 23. Dan HALL, 25. Neyder MORENO, 27. Logan ROGERSON, 28. Luis Felipe GALLEGOS

(Two to be omitted)
Ins: 8. Luis TOOMEY, 28. Luis Felipe GALLEGOS
Outs: Nil
Unavailable: Nil

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Oh and forgot of course the ALM's sole AFC Champions League Elite spot will go to whoever finishes 2nd!

Big day in Melbs tomorrow for the A League.
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11 months ago
It was an entertaining game, especially if you are Bitumen fan.  I was impressed with how well WUN played despite being without Ibusuki.
I think overall Western simply wanted it more on the day; and Auckland got a dose of reality served to them - that they are not invincible.   



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