Auckland Pride - Make Auckland Great Again

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12 months ago
AucklandPhoenix
https://i.imgur.com/rO0FoaB.mp4

Some context on the Western Sydney rabble. Can’t see the middle aged port guys doing this in the return leg next season.
Repulsive to see cans of beer flying when kids are right there. A *good* thing about AFC fandom has been the number of kids coming to the game

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12 months ago
imanixsupporter
With their lead at only 5 points, they only need to collect two less points than Western United over the next 3 games to give themselves the opportunity to lose it on the final day. Their goal difference buffer of +3 right now is negligible, it would become -1 if Western United beat them 2-0.

And they have two very tough away games against Sydney and Victory up next. I'd be very worried as an AFC fan right now.
20 Legend
So with all the teams at the top having four games to play, Western United's maximum points is 41 + 12 = 53. So Auckland need 8 from their last four to secure it.

Interestingly, the last match of the season is Western vs Auckland.

Western also have to play WSW and Sydney - both who be fighting for final berths. As you say, Sydney and Auckland at home is a big advantage for United though.

For all the complainers saying Auckland was fortunate with their early home fixtures - this is the obvious disadvantage.
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Banzai!...AIEEE!!!FU
12 months ago
Wow this could come right down to the wire! Some tough games coming up for both AFC and WU.

If Auckland get 4 points out of their next 2 against Sydney and Victory they should be getting close to winning it.
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12 months ago
Doloras
There is a qualitative difference in aggro between AFC fans and Nix culture that's disappointing. Like, an AFC fan on Reddit was all like Nix fans deserved what they get for "coming into our supporters pub". In my experience, when travelling fans come into the YF's pub, they get shouted a round. I liked that culture.

Hard to tell what's going on, people are saying the AFC provocateur got king hit by RBB, others are saying the opposite happened
From what I've heard it seems the general consensus is that the first tweet about an AFC supporter getting hit was wrong. It was an AFC supporter who hit the WSW supporter and broke his jaw - all allegedly of course
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12 months ago
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Doloras
There is a qualitative difference in aggro between AFC fans and Nix culture that's disappointing. Like, an AFC fan on Reddit was all like Nix fans deserved what they get for "coming into our supporters pub". In my experience, when travelling fans come into the YF's pub, they get shouted a round. I liked that culture.

Hard to tell what's going on, people are saying the AFC provocateur got king hit by RBB, others are saying the opposite happened
From what I've heard it seems the general consensus is that the first tweet about an AFC supporter getting hit was wrong. It was an AFC supporter who hit the WSW supporter and broke his jaw - all allegedly of course
Thats going to make an interesting away trip for the Port next time they play WSW in Sydney.
Was just a matter of time before something happened.
Could be some real spice in the finals if any of WSW,Sydney,or Victory have to play at Go Media

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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WanderingSheep
12 months ago
Both sides in the wrong here.

The AFC fans who went into the away section, especially the one who coward punched someone and broke his jaw, massive wrong 'uns and deserve whatever is coming to them.

The WSW fans who have been caught on camera throwing cans of beer with kids around and in danger of being hit should be identified and banned.

Scummy idiots ruining it for every one else. Both clubs and their supporter groups should take responsibility for their own actions first to set the tone for what happened.

Three for me, and two for them.

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brBullioncoochieeDoloras+11
12 months ago
just to echo the above - we had some really progressive chats with the port in our FRG this week and the club gave advice to the port rep and the rest of the FRG that the RBB would have more security presence than normal.

I think the takeaway is the club and the port did what they could - you can't control some idiots (applies to both sides) so the best that can be done is hefty bans/fines to all people who acted out.
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billyspleen75coochiee
12 months ago
I don’t know a thing about ground security and the role of police but you would think however that the bare minimum you would have a couple of boys in blue at the entrance to an away bay.

I assume this did not happen. 

Security guards have a tough job dealing with morons but even morons  are usually wary of police officers. 

I would think that would deter most entering an away bay.

Auckland will rise once more

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12 months ago
AucklandPhoenix
I don’t know a thing about ground security and the role of police but you would think however that the bare minimum you would have a couple of boys in blue at the entrance to an away bay.

I assume this did not happen. 

Security guards have a tough job dealing with morons but even morons  are usually wary of police officers. 

I would think that would deter most entering an away bay.

They had a police escort from the train station to the ground - I saw this myself.  I can only assume the cops were still by the away bay - but I can not confirm this as I have not seen it.
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12 months ago
chopah
Banzai!...AIEEE!!!

interesting that this statement says no officers were injured - which contradicts an earlier claim.

At first I read it as no one was injured. Re-read and found this in the meantime.

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12 months ago
YoungHeartHM
chopah
Banzai!...AIEEE!!!

interesting that this statement says no officers were injured - which contradicts an earlier claim.

At first I read it as no one was injured. Re-read and found this in the meantime.


No sorry I meant no police officers were also injured - I knew about this poor fulla.
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12 months ago
gits on all sides
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Bullion
12 months ago
Wonder if this will turn into a bit of a rivalry? For the fans at least
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12 months ago
I'm sure there will be some WSW fans who absolutely hate Corica & McFlynn being ex SFC. 

That adds another element is yes what looks like being a spicy meeting at least off field, should WSW return to Auckland for a finals game. And of course should they meet in a semi final, it's then home & away.
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12 months ago
So happy I'm a Nix fan. No dickheads policy since day one. Lots if cool people. AFC on the other hand seem to be a dickhead magnet. It was obvious that the club had issues with the way they organised away fan zones. Add Western mega dickhead fans to the mix and you get trouble. Now the club has a PR problem. Lots of non football people have been waiting to deflate the AFC balloon. They now have the ammo.
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12 months ago
I also noticed on TV that the Port sing about themselves - not much humility there is there?

I like watching AFC play but their fans annoy ne immensely with some of their stuff.
mykey
agree. Away bay has been a shambles both derbies, coming to the away zone looking for trouble. Was always going to be happen.   

The AFC fans seem arrogant as heck and spend more time giving it to the away fans than watching the game. 
ballane
That may be the case but dont kid yourself from all reports some Auckland fans have just been itching to cause trouble. Was just a matter if time before someone obliged them.
Have been plenty of stores around about how unpleasant it has been as an away game.
Fully exoect Auckland to lay all the blame elswhere.
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pi
12 months ago
I mean someone correct me if I'm wrong but don't they also say Wellington is the home of football.?
Napier Phoenix
I also noticed on TV that the Port sing about themselves - not much humility there is there?

I like watching AFC play but their fans annoy ne immensely with some of their stuff.
mykey
agree. Away bay has been a shambles both derbies, coming to the away zone looking for trouble. Was always going to be happen.   

The AFC fans seem arrogant as heck and spend more time giving it to the away fans than watching the game. 
ballane
That may be the case but dont kid yourself from all reports some Auckland fans have just been itching to cause trouble. Was just a matter if time before someone obliged them.
Have been plenty of stores around about how unpleasant it has been as an away game.
Fully exoect Auckland to lay all the blame elswhere.
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chopah
just to echo the above - we had some really progressive chats with the port in our FRG this week and the club gave advice to the port rep and the rest of the FRG that the RBB would have more security presence than normal.

I think the takeaway is the club and the port did what they could - you can't control some idiots (applies to both sides) so the best that can be done is hefty bans/fines to all people who acted out.
To be honest chopah Aucklands handling of the away zones has been a shambles. They have been made aware of issues that may arise but seem determined to not listen to any advice or suggestions.
There has been plenty of stuff circulating that there could be issues ahead because of a number of issues but Auckland and their Security seemed to be reluctant to address any of these concerns.
To come out and say they had done what they could is just not true.
One things for sure they need to get it sorted because come finals the stakes and emotions will be higher.
What it dosnt need is Security to go the other way and get over controlling.
I much prefer the way YF does it have beer with opposition fans before and after the game just dont get why some Auckland fans seem to be so dammed angry. 

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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12 months ago
Noah4thenix
Wonder if this will turn into a bit of a rivalry? For the fans at least
I really hope it doesn't. I really hope The Port rush out a statement disassociating themselves from the gobshark who decided to go and start biff. You can't control what the RBB do but if you let this kind of crap go unchallenged you end up with something like Victory's NT, a not only violent but reactionary fan base

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Buffon IIBullioncoochiee
12 months ago
Auckland fc have released a statement condemning the behaviour of a few individuals.. I have sat with the Port in an away match in Auckland, and never got the vibes they're a violent/aggressive bunch, and having being to a number of WSW games, who even cause trouble in some NPL games they attend, it's a big issue for them.. I think we can say this is a case of a few bad apples in amongst the tree in Auckland, and while the majority of WSW fans are passionate & non-violent, they do have a track record of causing isssues in their 14 years.. it happened earleir this season vs City, happens every year vs the cove & the NT.. 
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12 months ago
ballane
chopah
just to echo the above - we had some really progressive chats with the port in our FRG this week and the club gave advice to the port rep and the rest of the FRG that the RBB would have more security presence than normal.

I think the takeaway is the club and the port did what they could - you can't control some idiots (applies to both sides) so the best that can be done is hefty bans/fines to all people who acted out.
To be honest chopah Aucklands handling of the away zones has been a shambles. They have been made aware of issues that may arise but seem determined to not listen to any advice or suggestions.
There has been plenty of stuff circulating that there could be issues ahead because of a number of issues but Auckland and their Security seemed to be reluctant to address any of these concerns.
To come out and say they had done what they could is just not true.
One things for sure they need to get it sorted because come finals the stakes and emotions will be higher.
What it dosnt need is Security to go the other way and get over controlling.
I much prefer the way YF does it have beer with opposition fans before and after the game just dont get why some Auckland fans seem to be so dammed angry. 

I can see from your point of view how it might be targeted to away teams, but I think Red Badge who work for the stadium are really the issue - the club has been trying to improve it constantly but there have been some issues the club has not been able to resolve.

Re the placement of the away bays - as a fan I don't think they got it completely right but I also think they have located those bays in the locations they chose for a reason and they are sticking to their guns on that - just because that is not seen as popular doesn't mean it's wrong.
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Ni
12 months ago · edited 12 months ago · History
I think it’s tough to have a go at the club about the away bays. 

The bottom line is that they need to be covered and nicely seated.. Sticking them on a grass bank would not go well.

They also need to be away from the port ideally. You wouldn’t want the two of them side by side. Anyway the port isn’t covered. 

The ideal scenario would be middle of the field upper deck with no other fans up there. However AFC pulled 18k to that game so they can’t really do that either as they need the seats.



Auckland will rise once more

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12 months ago
I reckon they were simply caught out by how popular the Auckland/Wellington derbies were - which meant they were caught out by not being able to easily move ticket holders and season ticket holders to clear out a bay properly.

I expect it to be significantly better planned next season.
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12 months ago
chopah
ballane
chopah
just to echo the above - we had some really progressive chats with the port in our FRG this week and the club gave advice to the port rep and the rest of the FRG that the RBB would have more security presence than normal.

I think the takeaway is the club and the port did what they could - you can't control some idiots (applies to both sides) so the best that can be done is hefty bans/fines to all people who acted out.
To be honest chopah Aucklands handling of the away zones has been a shambles. They have been made aware of issues that may arise but seem determined to not listen to any advice or suggestions.
There has been plenty of stuff circulating that there could be issues ahead because of a number of issues but Auckland and their Security seemed to be reluctant to address any of these concerns.
To come out and say they had done what they could is just not true.
One things for sure they need to get it sorted because come finals the stakes and emotions will be higher.
What it dosnt need is Security to go the other way and get over controlling.
I much prefer the way YF does it have beer with opposition fans before and after the game just dont get why some Auckland fans seem to be so dammed angry. 

I can see from your point of view how it might be targeted to away teams, but I think Red Badge who work for the stadium are really the issue - the club has been trying to improve it constantly but there have been some issues the club has not been able to resolve.

Re the placement of the away bays - as a fan I don't think they got it completely right but I also think they have located those bays in the locations they chose for a reason and they are sticking to their guns on that - just because that is not seen as popular doesn't mean it's wrong.
Hopefully moving forward they can get their act together does seem at times as if they just havnt wanted to engage with people who have voiced their concerns about possible issues.
Having McFlynn there you would have thought they would have been all over things that could possibly go wrong.
Think stadium layout does mean they are restricted in how they can place away bays i guess. Find it strange they dont give away fans an area that includes pitch side. Every game i have been to in Aussie away fans have access to this. The way they do it is just asking for the idiots from both sides to take advantage.
Just annoying as we are all aware the media just love to jump on any fan trouble in football and make more of it than there should be. 

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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chopah
ballane
chopah
just to echo the above - we had some really progressive chats with the port in our FRG this week and the club gave advice to the port rep and the rest of the FRG that the RBB would have more security presence than normal.

I think the takeaway is the club and the port did what they could - you can't control some idiots (applies to both sides) so the best that can be done is hefty bans/fines to all people who acted out.
To be honest chopah Aucklands handling of the away zones has been a shambles. They have been made aware of issues that may arise but seem determined to not listen to any advice or suggestions.
There has been plenty of stuff circulating that there could be issues ahead because of a number of issues but Auckland and their Security seemed to be reluctant to address any of these concerns.
To come out and say they had done what they could is just not true.
One things for sure they need to get it sorted because come finals the stakes and emotions will be higher.
What it dosnt need is Security to go the other way and get over controlling.
I much prefer the way YF does it have beer with opposition fans before and after the game just dont get why some Auckland fans seem to be so dammed angry. 

I can see from your point of view how it might be targeted to away teams, but I think Red Badge who work for the stadium are really the issue - the club has been trying to improve it constantly but there have been some issues the club has not been able to resolve.

Re the placement of the away bays - as a fan I don't think they got it completely right but I also think they have located those bays in the locations they chose for a reason and they are sticking to their guns on that - just because that is not seen as popular doesn't mean it's wrong.
Hopefully moving forward they can get their act together does seem at times as if they just havnt wanted to engage with people who have voiced their concerns about possible issues.
Having McFlynn there you would have thought they would have been all over things that could possibly go wrong.
Think stadium layout does mean they are restricted in how they can place away bays i guess. Find it strange they dont give away fans an area that includes pitch side. Every game i have been to in Aussie away fans have access to this. The way they do it is just asking for the idiots from both sides to take advantage.
Just annoying as we are all aware the media just love to jump on any fan trouble in football and make more of it than there should be. 

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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12 months ago
As far as I can recall over the 17 years of the Nix we've never had anything close to this sort of aggro at games - not an entirely clean sheet but pretty good overall. I think our generally positive fan culture sure helps with that. Maybe the Auckland Fandom has got a bit overexcited by their good first season and has got a few lessons to learn about better fan styles - especially the 'No dickheads' rule. RBB of course has a long history of such drama though. I guess though the Nix fans will get tarred by this, despite 17 years of just friendly good times...... I have noted that Auckland fans have been pretty much getting away with stuff Nix fans don't do (flares for one example). So I'm sure it's not all the RBB at fault here.

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Hopefully the Police charge the Auckland 'fan' who king hit the WSW guy breaking his jaw. And he also gets a life time ban from Mt Smart.

Gonna be hard to fine or prosecute any of the RBB mob. They are all back in Sydney you'd imagine. But next time they turn up, Mt Smart security and the police issue a pre game warning through WSW's socials that there will be a big security/police presence and any idiots will be thrown out straight into a waiting paddy van.

Perhaps all WSW fans in the away section have to register pre game, using their passports as ID. So anyone who does later get thrown out, is automatically barred from re-entering NZ in the future.

Anyone wearing a scarf as a balacava also thrown out, as it's clear you plan to misbehave.

Becker should have some experience around how to plan for any future trouble. He was at Melb City previously. Knows the league well.


One spectator at the game, who asked not to be named, said he saw Western Sydney fans eager to start fights with Auckland fans.

“There were some really fired-up agro people in there,” the Auckland fan said.

“It didn't feel very safe, we had several families near us who packed up and moved away. “There were bottles and items being thrown, I saw one poor kid get hit with a half-full water bottle.

“Several of them were standing facing the Auckland supporters, just trying to inspire a fight, I saw one covered up wearing a balaclava; they just wanted to brawl.”

The Auckland fan said he had been to five other Auckland FC games this season and had always felt it had been a safe experience, but it wasn’t on this occasion.

“[It was] hard to watch and enjoy the game and atmosphere when you’re keeping a side eye on the football hooligans. Pretty disappointed they didn't just throw them out,” he said.

There was a crowd of 18,342 at the game, with a couple of hundred Western United fans entering the stadium together, standing behind a large banner. They were spurred on by one spectator with a loud hailer as they entered the venue, who encouraged them to get energised and remind Auckland fans how far they’d come for the game.

They were vocal throughout the game, but emotions rose when their team had a goal disallowed in the first half, with both sets of fans hurling abuse at each other.

However, another spectator emailed Stuff saying they believed the incidents “are being very exaggerated”.

They said Auckland fans were also to blame for the disorder but security staff concentrated on the Western Sydney fans “instead of the AFC troublemakers”.
Auckland FC CEO Nick Becker said he was disappointed with what happened.
“Auckland FC has worked extremely hard to cultivate a positive and inclusive family atmosphere for the 200,000 plus football fans who have enjoyed an incredible season at Go Media Stadium,” Becker said.

“This includes our most passionate football fans, thousands of families and first-timers from Auckland, Wellington and beyond.

“This is the first time we have had any incidents involving fan anti-social behaviour and it’s something that we take very seriously. It does not represent our values or who we are as a club.

“We are working closely with the police and the team at Go Media Stadium to see if any lessons can be learned, particularly in regard to how we manage travelling fans, as well as looking to identify and ban anyone who is found to be responsible.”

Becker said any form of anti-social behaviour runs counter to who they are as a club.

Western Sydney Wanderers has not responded to a request for comment.
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Back to the football. Auckland were very average and their form is below that necessary to lift the trophy. Teams have worked them out now I think - exploiting a lack of mobility centrally and getting in behind the full backs and pressing their midfield with a mid block to stop passing lanes into the 6 or 8. 

People “handed” them the trophy too early. 
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Auckland Fans breaking the WSW supporter's jaw just made 7 News in Australia - A-League can only ever make mainstream media in Aussie when it's a negative angle
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12 months ago
Half a Pint
Auckland Fans breaking the WSW supporter's jaw just made 7 News in Australia - A-League can only ever make mainstream media in Aussie when it's a negative angle
Yep bloody annoying on a weekend where there was brawl amongst spectators at an NRL game and two guys took loaded pistols to an AFL game. The media still choose to highlight the football. BASTARDS 

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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Agree.

Their midfield is getting seriously overloaded, which means they lose the second ball which in turn puts serious pressure on them out wide.

Personally I think they need to go back to their initial team formation at the seasons beginning with three pure midfielders in their imports and Brimmer in the midfield.

Mata unfortunately dropped. While he frees up May to play a number 10, his actual output is limited and the fact he is getting dragged at half time and being replaced by Howieson is telling. The guy is not a striker.

I think defensively this makes the team more solid and with Moreno back, with Logan and May, they may just rustle enough goals to get them out of the hole they are in.  They really have to beat Melbourne or Sydney away to have a chance. 



JasperNix
Back to the football. Auckland were very average and their form is below that necessary to lift the trophy. Teams have worked them out now I think - exploiting a lack of mobility centrally and getting in behind the full backs and pressing their midfield with a mid block to stop passing lanes into the 6 or 8. 

People “handed” them the trophy too early. 

Auckland will rise once more

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12 months ago · edited 12 months ago · History
ballane
Half a Pint
Auckland Fans breaking the WSW supporter's jaw just made 7 News in Australia - A-League can only ever make mainstream media in Aussie when it's a negative angle
Yep bloody annoying on a weekend where there was brawl amongst spectators at an NRL game and two guys took loaded pistols to an AFL game. The media still choose to highlight the football. BASTARDS 

Yeah but the AFL and NRL incidents still made the news. We wouldn't have known about them otherwise. No real difference. 

They even interviewed the Victorian Premier re the 2 guys caught with guns at MCG. Footage of them being arrested at The G, cops having them pinned to the ground. AFL fans told in the future to expect delays getting into grounds, with beefed up security checks.
 
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ballane
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Auckland Fans breaking the WSW supporter's jaw just made 7 News in Australia - A-League can only ever make mainstream media in Aussie when it's a negative angle
Yep bloody annoying on a weekend where there was brawl amongst spectators at an NRL game and two guys took loaded pistols to an AFL game. The media still choose to highlight the football. BASTARDS 

Yeah but the AFL and NRL incidents still made the news. We wouldn't have known about them otherwise. No real difference. 

They even interviewed the Victorian Premier re the 2 guys caught with guns at MCG. Footage of them being arrested at The G, cops having them pinned to the ground. AFL fans told in the future to expect delays getting into grounds, with beefed up security checks.
 

All seems fair enough then? At the end of the day, someone broke someone’s jaw, in the stands. It would be wild for that not to make the news.
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AucklandPhoenix
Agree.

Their midfield is getting seriously overloaded, which means they lose the second ball which in turn puts serious pressure on them out wide.

Personally I think they need to go back to their initial team formation at the seasons beginning with three pure midfielders in their imports and Brimmer in the midfield.

Mata unfortunately dropped. While he frees up May to play a number 10, his actual output is limited and the fact he is getting dragged at half time and being replaced by Howieson is telling. The guy is not a striker.

I think defensively this makes the team more solid and with Moreno back, with Logan and May, they may just rustle enough goals to get them out of the hole they are in.  They really have to beat Melbourne or Sydney away to have a chance. 



JasperNix
Back to the football. Auckland were very average and their form is below that necessary to lift the trophy. Teams have worked them out now I think - exploiting a lack of mobility centrally and getting in behind the full backs and pressing their midfield with a mid block to stop passing lanes into the 6 or 8. 

People “handed” them the trophy too early. 

Agreed 100%.

Auckland felt a bit toothless at the start of the season with only May upfront, but now they're too easy to overrun with only two centre midfielders. Get Brimmer, Verstrate, and Gallegos back into midfield together.
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