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Cloe Knott will be miffed. Leaving the Nix to go to Auckland. Waiting a season before getting to play and now not happening.  A waste of good talent.

reubee

Would NZF be better off contributing to the Auckland FC womens travel costs (and the Nix in equal share) if that is the stumbling block rather than whatever they are putting into the 9 team South Island Womens League.  Would that money be better spent on the top 32 players in the country to help them cross the Tasman for 26 weeks rather than the top 144 players in the South Island fly around Christchurch, Dunedin, Nelson for 18 weeks.

Interesting debate. NZF did of course share of the costs of the Nix's ALW side for the first 2 seasons. Paid some of the staff wages (Lawrence & Jones were also NZF employees?) etc.

Problem is that up to 10 of the players over two ALW teams would be visa players. More non Kiwis with some Australians like Jaber across two squads. So why should NZF part fund the two clubs playing non NZ footballers?

Basically it's an issue for the APL to sort out. For so many reasons they need to improve themselves financially. The post Foxtel TV rights deal(s) have been pretty awful. So much of the Silver Lake cash they got, wasted on KeepUp. Accusations from some of the football media of other wasteful spending on needless functions, events, parties etc 
https://archive.sen.com.au/news/2024/01/22/robbie-slater-blasts-apl-for-misuse-of-funds-amid-mass-staff-reduction/index.html

martinb

austin111

Wow! Martinb, you seem to haven take offense at my comment on the business viability of the A League. My post was in no way intended as an attack on woman’s football. I would just like to go on record to say that the growth in professional woman’s football has been one of the best things that has happened to the game in recent years. I am currently enjoying the women’s Euro comp. It has offered as good a spectacle you could ever want to see in a football stadium.
My point was with the current state of the A League finances that woman’s football could go, not SHOULD go. There’s a big difference. 
As someone who has been involved in international business for 30 years it has always stunned me that football seems to think it can operate outside normal business practices. The bottom line is if you can’t pay for it then you can’t have it.
The A League is close to a tipping point and we can only speculate on its future. It’s absolutely essential it gets its house in order. With the renegotiation of the TV deal maybe we may look forward to better times. Or we could end up with a low budget, low wage version played in suburban grounds.
The woman’s game could be a victim of chronic mismanagement. That would be a tragedy and a great loss for all of us who love the game.

So your thought process- the men’s game is a mess, better bench the women’s game? No, you’re saying it could go. Not your thoughts, some hypothetical nameless management figure. 

I mean I don’t know what kind of folk run the APL. 

But I certainly don’t consider the Men’s the ‘core’ business. Hopefully the APL don’t see it that way either. Hopefully they’re football people, not INEOS. 

I mean what can be done? Either to stabilise things or to ring fence the women’s competition and protect it?

Martin - how is the women's game going to be run and supported by separate entities on the back of crowds that average about 1500?

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martinb

austin111

Wow! Martinb, you seem to haven take offense at my comment on the business viability of the A League. My post was in no way intended as an attack on woman’s football. I would just like to go on record to say that the growth in professional woman’s football has been one of the best things that has happened to the game in recent years. I am currently enjoying the women’s Euro comp. It has offered as good a spectacle you could ever want to see in a football stadium.
My point was with the current state of the A League finances that woman’s football could go, not SHOULD go. There’s a big difference. 
As someone who has been involved in international business for 30 years it has always stunned me that football seems to think it can operate outside normal business practices. The bottom line is if you can’t pay for it then you can’t have it.
The A League is close to a tipping point and we can only speculate on its future. It’s absolutely essential it gets its house in order. With the renegotiation of the TV deal maybe we may look forward to better times. Or we could end up with a low budget, low wage version played in suburban grounds.
The woman’s game could be a victim of chronic mismanagement. That would be a tragedy and a great loss for all of us who love the game.

So your thought process- the men’s game is a mess, better bench the women’s game? No, you’re saying it could go. Not your thoughts, some hypothetical nameless management figure. 

I mean I don’t know what kind of folk run the APL. 

But I certainly don’t consider the Men’s the ‘core’ business. Hopefully the APL don’t see it that way either. Hopefully they’re football people, not INEOS. 

I mean what can be done? Either to stabilise things or to ring fence the women’s competition and protect it?

Martin - how is the women's game going to be run and supported by separate entities on the back of crowds that average about 1500?

Better ask MacArthur and Western United how they’re doing with the Men’s game. 

If we’re supposed to break even at a 10k average at the RoF, we’ve never done that. All the men’s clubs are money sinks to a greater or lesser degree. But suddenly the women’s game has to be self sustaining on game day revenue? 

That would be a question of how to build in tough times sure. There’s certainly been no lack of interest in women’s international football and it’s a strong participation sport. Separate entities is just happening in some clubs in the UK where they’re doing a bit better. 

Nick Becker was talking about the difference of football v rugby in terms of news stories. He talked about how much they had to push to get an organisation to run a news story. As well as the importance of people getting to know the players. It’s that para-social relationship that people get with TV characters, streamers or footballers. 

And doing what the Nix have done and find a venue which suits the current crowd size. 

It’s a currently a crappy situation to grow something new. The sports market is mature and saturated, and declining. Guys like Ratcliffe don’t want to be bothered and it’s easy to sit on 100 plus years of history rather than build something. 

And part of that is that there was momentum in the women’s game and it got banned. We look at the likes of Wootton and Stephen Taylor coming in off stints at Uniteds M and N, which are famous clubs here. There’s no history in the women’s game for them to boost off comparatively speaking because of that injustice. 

Look, not my fight exactly. My girl wants to be a swimmer. But if you got a daughter and a boy, you’re saying to the girl: you don’t get a ball until the Men’s A league is stable. That seems mental.

If you’re the main football league, you are more than solely a business too. Even in the EFL lots of owners lose money. 

If you’re the flagship league, you want to represent for your country and you want to grow the game. You’re looking for a way to make it happen, rather than go, oh we tried for a half a minute it can’t be done! 

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martinb

austin111

Wow! Martinb, you seem to haven take offense at my comment on the business viability of the A League. My post was in no way intended as an attack on woman’s football. I would just like to go on record to say that the growth in professional woman’s football has been one of the best things that has happened to the game in recent years. I am currently enjoying the women’s Euro comp. It has offered as good a spectacle you could ever want to see in a football stadium.
My point was with the current state of the A League finances that woman’s football could go, not SHOULD go. There’s a big difference. 
As someone who has been involved in international business for 30 years it has always stunned me that football seems to think it can operate outside normal business practices. The bottom line is if you can’t pay for it then you can’t have it.
The A League is close to a tipping point and we can only speculate on its future. It’s absolutely essential it gets its house in order. With the renegotiation of the TV deal maybe we may look forward to better times. Or we could end up with a low budget, low wage version played in suburban grounds.
The woman’s game could be a victim of chronic mismanagement. That would be a tragedy and a great loss for all of us who love the game.

So your thought process- the men’s game is a mess, better bench the women’s game? No, you’re saying it could go. Not your thoughts, some hypothetical nameless management figure. 

I mean I don’t know what kind of folk run the APL. 

But I certainly don’t consider the Men’s the ‘core’ business. Hopefully the APL don’t see it that way either. Hopefully they’re football people, not INEOS. 

I mean what can be done? Either to stabilise things or to ring fence the women’s competition and protect it?

Martin - how is the women's game going to be run and supported by separate entities on the back of crowds that average about 1500?

At the last members’ day the club did clearly say that the number one requirement for the women’s team is getting bums on seats. All the positivity in the world is no substitute for revenue to pay the bills.

So taking austin111’s point that the women’s game could be seen by some as a cost rather than an investment, what can we as individual supporters and collectively as the Yellow Fever do to help grow the numbers and head off any naysayers?

Obviously we need to show up ourselves and encourage everyone we know to join us, but what else? For all the delay on launching the AFC Women helps the Wahinix in some ways, it’s a pity we go another season without ALW derbies to raise the excitement and encourage casuals who might not have gone to a women’s game otherwise.

reubee

Would NZF be better off contributing to the Auckland FC womens travel costs (and the Nix in equal share) if that is the stumbling block rather than whatever they are putting into the 9 team South Island Womens League.  Would that money be better spent on the top 32 players in the country to help them cross the Tasman for 26 weeks rather than the top 144 players in the South Island fly around Christchurch, Dunedin, Nelson for 18 weeks.

I guess the answer depends on what NZF’s remit actually is: are they here to focus on the top of the pyramid, or on the base that supports it?

I suspect the answer is “do both on a shoestring budget, but without making any hard trade-offs that might upset some stakeholders.”

martinb

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martinb

austin111

Wow! Martinb, you seem to haven take offense at my comment on the business viability of the A League. My post was in no way intended as an attack on woman’s football. I would just like to go on record to say that the growth in professional woman’s football has been one of the best things that has happened to the game in recent years. I am currently enjoying the women’s Euro comp. It has offered as good a spectacle you could ever want to see in a football stadium.
My point was with the current state of the A League finances that woman’s football could go, not SHOULD go. There’s a big difference. 
As someone who has been involved in international business for 30 years it has always stunned me that football seems to think it can operate outside normal business practices. The bottom line is if you can’t pay for it then you can’t have it.
The A League is close to a tipping point and we can only speculate on its future. It’s absolutely essential it gets its house in order. With the renegotiation of the TV deal maybe we may look forward to better times. Or we could end up with a low budget, low wage version played in suburban grounds.
The woman’s game could be a victim of chronic mismanagement. That would be a tragedy and a great loss for all of us who love the game.

So your thought process- the men’s game is a mess, better bench the women’s game? No, you’re saying it could go. Not your thoughts, some hypothetical nameless management figure. 

I mean I don’t know what kind of folk run the APL. 

But I certainly don’t consider the Men’s the ‘core’ business. Hopefully the APL don’t see it that way either. Hopefully they’re football people, not INEOS. 

I mean what can be done? Either to stabilise things or to ring fence the women’s competition and protect it?

Martin - how is the women's game going to be run and supported by separate entities on the back of crowds that average about 1500?

Better ask MacArthur and Western United how they’re doing with the Men’s game. 

If we’re supposed to break even at a 10k average at the RoF, we’ve never done that. All the men’s clubs are money sinks to a greater or lesser degree. But suddenly the women’s game has to be self sustaining on game day revenue? 

That would be a question of how to build in tough times sure. There’s certainly been no lack of interest in women’s international football and it’s a strong participation sport. Separate entities is just happening in some clubs in the UK where they’re doing a bit better. 

Nick Becker was talking about the difference of football v rugby in terms of news stories. He talked about how much they had to push to get an organisation to run a news story. As well as the importance of people getting to know the players. It’s that para-social relationship that people get with TV characters, streamers or footballers. 

And doing what the Nix have done and find a venue which suits the current crowd size. 

It’s a currently a crappy situation to grow something new. The sports market is mature and saturated, and declining. Guys like Ratcliffe don’t want to be bothered and it’s easy to sit on 100 plus years of history rather than build something. 

And part of that is that there was momentum in the women’s game and it got banned. We look at the likes of Wootton and Stephen Taylor coming in off stints at Uniteds M and N, which are famous clubs here. There’s no history in the women’s game for them to boost off comparatively speaking because of that injustice. 

Look, not my fight exactly. My girl wants to be a swimmer. But if you got a daughter and a boy, you’re saying to the girl: you don’t get a ball until the Men’s A league is stable. That seems mental.

If you’re the main football league, you are more than solely a business too. Even in the EFL lots of owners lose money. 

If you’re the flagship league, you want to represent for your country and you want to grow the game. You’re looking for a way to make it happen, rather than go, oh we tried for a half a minute it can’t be done! 

I'm not with you if I'm honest - you're proposing that smaller stadiums and historical entities will somehow lead to a significant shift from the average crowd of 1,600 to something that would sustain a multi-country league?

That's not just grounded in reality. We all want the women's league to work, we all want a league young girls can aspire to. But, short-term there's no point risking the most popular league for the one that people don't watch.

reubee

Would NZF be better off contributing to the Auckland FC womens travel costs (and the Nix in equal share) if that is the stumbling block rather than whatever they are putting into the 9 team South Island Womens League.  Would that money be better spent on the top 32 players in the country to help them cross the Tasman for 26 weeks rather than the top 144 players in the South Island fly around Christchurch, Dunedin, Nelson for 18 weeks.

But think of Air New Zealand. What would they do without all that revenue?

You are right of course. ANZ will be fleecing NZF. 

NZF is far better off helping get that women's team into the A League. That squad will benefit NZF a lot more then 144 amateurs, most of whom will be so far off the fern its not even funny. It will be cheaper to do and be more beneficial to the women's game in NZ (and Aus).

So, ignoring my points about the same problems in the men’s game particularly at the most recent expansion clubs (20Legend certainly did!), is it a given that the women’s game is being subsidised by the men’s?
In fact, substantially subsidised, to the point where at least one and a half of us believe we should bail out on the women’s game before we hit the mountains of men’s league failure? 

Leaving out arguments that a stadium ready women’s game might be harmed by playing hookey kookey with the product availability, equity or even moral arguments about the inter generational marketing advantage the men’s game had by not being banned for many decades, let’s deal in reality. 

It’s hard to understand that if the women’s game was losing so much, that scrapping it would make the A league men’s successful, why WelNix would invest so much in coaching and playing staff this season. They’ve surely increased their investment this season. They’ll want return on that investment in reality, as well as lala land. 

I understand it’s a tough environment for football, but are Newcastle, Brisbane, MacArthur or Western United going to get greater attendances for the men by cutting the women’s game? Is Vic going to forget the NSW grand final purchase and subsequent banning of fans? 
Victory last season had 12, 874 average compared with 27,260 a decade ago and around 20k half a decade ago. That’ll convince them to come back? A bit of Ratcliffe style reality? Fire a few tea ladies and women’s footballers? 

It’s great to heroically save football, but I’m not sure it’ll be done just by returning it to a Masonic lodge with Harper and Slater at the front door. 

There must be some way to make sure the womens pro league is kept . A couple of years ago the politicians were falling over themselves to be associated with the WWC in NZ. They talked about on going legacies for young women etc. Where are they now?
We saw at the WC and flowing through into the current womens Euros that womens football can be very successful.....it just needs the time and the right exposure.
Does anyone know the exact reason why the AFC womens team was cut? Surely its not just the lack of the $400,000 grant for travel. Thats pocket money for Foley. He could have made it a long term loan to avoid making it a precident. Not enough questions where asked of AFC IMO. They payed a huge A League entry fee and now cant have a womens team

austin111

There must be some way to make sure the womens pro league is kept . A couple of years ago the politicians were falling over themselves to be associated with the WWC in NZ. They talked about on going legacies for young women etc. Where are they now?
We saw at the WC and flowing through into the current womens Euros that womens football can be very successful.....it just needs the time and the right exposure.
Does anyone know the exact reason why the AFC womens team was cut? Surely its not just the lack of the $400,000 grant for travel. Thats pocket money for Foley. He could have made it a long term loan to avoid making it a precident. Not enough questions where asked of AFC IMO. They payed a huge A League entry fee and now cant have a womens team

It's also that they are not sure how to do the expansion (they being A-Leagues) in a year they are also hosting the Women's Asian Cup.  They said this puts a lot of stress on the mid sized venues they would be looking at for both A-League women's games and training venues for the Women's Asian Cup - plus they can't have Women's A-League games going while the Asian cup is on so they reckon scheduling a bigger league would be too hard.

martinb

So, ignoring my points about the same problems in the men’s game particularly at the most recent expansion clubs (20Legend certainly did!), is it a given that the women’s game is being subsidised by the men’s?
In fact, substantially subsidised, to the point where at least one and a half of us believe we should bail out on the women’s game before we hit the mountains of men’s league failure? 

Leaving out arguments that a stadium ready women’s game might be harmed by playing hookey kookey with the product availability, equity or even moral arguments about the inter generational marketing advantage the men’s game had by not being banned for many decades, let’s deal in reality. 

It’s hard to understand that if the women’s game was losing so much, that scrapping it would make the A league men’s successful, why WelNix would invest so much in coaching and playing staff this season. They’ve surely increased their investment this season. They’ll want return on that investment in reality, as well as lala land. 

I understand it’s a tough environment for football, but are Newcastle, Brisbane, MacArthur or Western United going to get greater attendances for the men by cutting the women’s game? Is Vic going to forget the NSW grand final purchase and subsequent banning of fans? 
Victory last season had 12, 874 average compared with 27,260 a decade ago and around 20k half a decade ago. That’ll convince them to come back? A bit of Ratcliffe style reality? Fire a few tea ladies and women’s footballers? 

It’s great to heroically save football, but I’m not sure it’ll be done just by returning it to a Masonic lodge with Harper and Slater at the front door. 

You are correct - there are poorly run men's teams, and cutting women's football isn't going to fix them.

Neither of those points support the argument to amputate the semi-successful men's league to hope and prayer that some tweaks to the women's game is going to significantly amplify it.

Exactly what steps would you take tomorrow to grow the women's league 5-10x in the next three years?

queenofthequail

AucklandPhoenix

I mean, even putting the crap reduced distribution to one side both from a business and football point of view, it makes sense to take this football project in incremental stages:

1: Season 1: Focus on setting up the club which will have high set up costs and they really need emphasis on the men’s team to get the crowds in the door and the bandwagon started.That’s been achieved.

2: Season 2. Consolidate the first team and then we have this curve ball of the OFC professional team, which will take a lot of unexpected time, resources and cost.

3: Season 3, is the time to think about the woman’s team, once the men’s first team and OFC are embedded.

I struggle to believe that the bandwagon effect will result in decent crowds for the women's team.

 Sadly I agree with this, and it was in full evidence this season with the Warriors. The women's team won against Parramatta in Sydney, and their next game was at home, the 'curtain-raiser' to the men's sold out game (one ticket was entry to both games obviously), and bugger all people in attendance.
I really thought they'd have a big crowd, and was disappointed to see the stands looking so sparse.

Double headers sound like a great idea, but in reality its 5 hours long with at least an hour between the games. Sure you can leave the stadium and come back but even then it's a long expensive day!

theprof

Double headers sound like a great idea, but in reality its 5 hours long with at least an hour between the games. Sure you can leave the stadium and come back but even then it's a long expensive day!

Agreed - the hour long wait is a hard sell. Are there any leagues that are getting the hour long wait down and pulling off double headers well?

At a place like Mt Smart, you could have the second game warm-up on peripheral fields, but that would increase maintenance costs at groundsman would need to keep the turfs nearly identical.

Likewise, if you could bring your own food (or the stadium stuff wasn't exorbitant) families might be lured into a picnic at Mt Smart, especially with the big slide. Kicking the first game off at 10am and the second off at midday would be pretty cool but broadcasters would have a fit.

Heaven forbid the beers were $5 a pop... you'd get half of Auckland there!

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martinb

So, ignoring my points about the same problems in the men’s game particularly at the most recent expansion clubs (20Legend certainly did!), is it a given that the women’s game is being subsidised by the men’s?
In fact, substantially subsidised, to the point where at least one and a half of us believe we should bail out on the women’s game before we hit the mountains of men’s league failure? 

Leaving out arguments that a stadium ready women’s game might be harmed by playing hookey kookey with the product availability, equity or even moral arguments about the inter generational marketing advantage the men’s game had by not being banned for many decades, let’s deal in reality. 

It’s hard to understand that if the women’s game was losing so much, that scrapping it would make the A league men’s successful, why WelNix would invest so much in coaching and playing staff this season. They’ve surely increased their investment this season. They’ll want return on that investment in reality, as well as lala land. 

I understand it’s a tough environment for football, but are Newcastle, Brisbane, MacArthur or Western United going to get greater attendances for the men by cutting the women’s game? Is Vic going to forget the NSW grand final purchase and subsequent banning of fans? 
Victory last season had 12, 874 average compared with 27,260 a decade ago and around 20k half a decade ago. That’ll convince them to come back? A bit of Ratcliffe style reality? Fire a few tea ladies and women’s footballers? 

It’s great to heroically save football, but I’m not sure it’ll be done just by returning it to a Masonic lodge with Harper and Slater at the front door. 

You are correct - there are poorly run men's teams, and cutting women's football isn't going to fix them.

Neither of those points support the argument to amputate the semi-successful men's league to hope and prayer that some tweaks to the women's game is going to significantly amplify it.

Exactly what steps would you take tomorrow to grow the women's league 5-10x in the next three years?

My main point- who is saying, apart from you, and Austin worrying that we have to choose between the two?

Who is saying, again, apart from you and the cast of MTV’s the Real World, that having the women’s game is significantly or at all detrimental to the men’s game? 

Your argument is that we should sacrifice the women’s game, which might or might not help a men’s game which can’t get its house or even a shed in order. 

You are setting up a dichotomy which no one has suggested exists. 

Again going back to my original post you need cut through for the personalities of the league to interest the general public. The media is fracturing so it is tricky, but needs doing. A ‘How many can you name campaign’?

But as you rightly observe crowds are low in the modern era. It probably needs to be simple too- person by person and word of mouth. Bring in the football players and those who enjoy other live sport, and get them hooked into the Yellow Fever culture. T-shirts, flags, chants, signing sessions. The sport is starting from scratch again as a public spectacle.

The Nix did well at Eden Park initially because you could arrive at the weekend, think what am I going to do, see a Nix ad in the paper and rock up to buy tickets 5 minutes after kickoff. Ease of access for casuals. That’s tricky, but maybe dedicated publicised shuttles. That’s not a biggie though. 

Success and derbies is going to help NZ numbers. AFC having a team too, will increase their crowds. 

I’m not an expert man. Waiting to hear from you about the semi- successful- ie equally failing, men’s league? 
So far you’ve had one idea and that is shut down the women’s league. Bold and disjointed and on par with many ideas we’ve seen. 

Though to be fair, perhaps Townsend had a good idea, but it needed much better execution and probably to be done at the height of the league’s popularity, before the FFA and Fox poison pilled it. 

theprof

Double headers sound like a great idea, but in reality its 5 hours long with at least an hour between the games. Sure you can leave the stadium and come back but even then it's a long expensive day!

Had a great double header experience in Hams with the ressies on first. But then, yeh, it was a football tour, not a weekly routine. 

Establishing some core fan groups, perhaps those who won’t be regulars at the men’s too and get the fans in the media too. Define what identity you can have as a fan of women’s football. Young and sporty. Happy sporty families. Social teams on Tuesday and the Nix on Friday. 

the wahinix seem to have their own core group of supporters, it would be great if it could continue to grow. 

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Currently.Auckland has made less signings than us! We're up by 2!

MetalLegNZ

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Currently.Auckland has made less signings than us! We're up by 2!

When does the preseason window close?

been a long time between drinks for Woud. https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360772966/auckland-fc-goalkeeper-michael-woud-set-play-first-competitive-match-620-days

Dear Football Gods. Sunday November 2nd, please can Auckland visit Sky Stadium in Wellington please. A special day deserves a special occassion ;) 

Aussie Cup game vs Gold Coast Knights at 9:30 pm tonight.

Is it watchable in New Zealand?

Edit: Apparently it's available here: https://www.youtube.com/live/v2zGS5oXutQ

3-0 Auckland as the first half enters its last 5 minutes

T-AFC hearts leap as our beloved little rat-boy Liam Gillion curls in a worldie!

Final score please?

4 zip

AucklandPhoenix

4 zip

Thanks. 2 Kiwi sides in the last 16. good job

Match highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcu8RLRrOv4

Malta. Manny Muscat & now Brimmer.
https://aleagues.com.au/news/aleague-news-auckland-fc-jake-brimmer-international-football-news/

Eli Jones and not Scott Morris as the travelling backup GK.
As yet youngsters at Auckland, certainly not getting the same opportunities as the Weenix grads.

He could be injured but they didn't even take Jonty Bidois on this little Aussie tour.

https://www.friendsoffootballnz.com/2025/07/31/auckland-fc-to-face-mens-a-league-rivals-brisbane-roar-in-pre-season-game/

Auckland FC will play men’s A-League rivals Brisbane Roar in a pre-season match on Sunday August 3, 2025.

The game will be staged at Brisbane’s Imperial Corp Stadium, kicking off at 12.30pm (local)/2.30pm (NZT).

Auckland FC squad
The following players have travelled to Australia:

New eight-part doco series about Auckland FC coming up end of August on Sky Open:
https://www.skygo.co.nz/show/mac_sh_167658

Documentary, New Zealand

MLC

Wed, 27 Aug, 7:30 pm on Sky Open

This eight-part docuseries follows the inception, rise, and inner workings of Auckland
FC. With behind-the-scenes access to players, coaches, owners, and fans, witness the
passion and ambition driving New Zealand's newest football powerhouse.

Eight parts is relatively lengthy. 

Same as a Wrexham.

AucklandPhoenix

Eight parts is relatively lengthy. 

Same as a Wrexham.

With less than 1% of the history of Wrexham

AFC drew with Brisbane, Randall and Gillion scoring 

AFC's 2 goals from the Roar friendly.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16adxUMfqa/

See that young Fijian international CB Semi Nabenu also debuted for Auckland in that game.


Big ups @semi.sau3 for his first run with the first team yesterday. Plenty more to come. 

That black away kit, doesn’t look too shabby.

I guess it’s in line with the black knights and the black shirt of NZ.

May not be the best for a steamy hot summer day in Aussi, however , 

AucklandPhoenix

That black away kit, doesn’t look too shabby.

I guess it’s in line with the black knights and the black shirt of NZ.

May not be the best for a steamy hot summer day in Aussi, however , 

I think you'll find their home kit this season will be predominantly black - with just some thin blue stripes

Half a Pint

AucklandPhoenix

That black away kit, doesn’t look too shabby.

I guess it’s in line with the black knights and the black shirt of NZ.

May not be the best for a steamy hot summer day in Aussi, however , 

I think you'll find their home kit this season will be predominantly black - with just some thin blue stripes

Unless a new sponsors on board just looks like the usual grift some cash out of supporters move

dick le roc returns

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That black away kit, doesn’t look too shabby.

I guess it’s in line with the black knights and the black shirt of NZ.

May not be the best for a steamy hot summer day in Aussi, however , 

I think you'll find their home kit this season will be predominantly black - with just some thin blue stripes

Unless a new sponsors on board just looks like the usual grift some cash out of supporters move

Can't say for 100% certain but I believe ANZ will be front of shirt sponsor for both home and away shirts this season.

Edit: Also goes without saying that this Cup kit they are wearing won't be used during the league season just like the Nix's cup kits