Grand Final 2011/12

I hate players celebrating getting a penalty awarded. It's just a dick move. Wait til you score the goal you knob

At least he was the one taking it, not quite so bad in that case.

watched that vid a couple of times and can now see why the penalty was awarded. Bersiha's left foot hits the ball causing it ot bobble - yep, no question on that. Take a close look at why his left boot hits the ball instead of planting beside it, the tackler hits his foot which causes the whol bobble/fall thing, hence penalty.

I love this from Steve Pantelidis:

Exactly. Perth had the chance to win the game, but Brisbane got themselves back into it by scoring the first goal. They then managed to get the ball into the front third for almost the entire last 10 minutes of the match, putting themselves in the poisiton to score or get a penalty. Best thing for Perth to do would have been to play the game down the other end of the field, where they would not be putting themselves in positions to give away penalties.

Oh, and Heffernan was stupid for getting himself sent off for two harmless but certainly yellow card worthy 'tackles'.

Perth can have no complaints about losing, pen or no pen.

Foxsports' Andy Harper talks to Brendan Telfer about the controversial end to the A-League season
http://www.radiosport.co.nz/player/ondemand/25705876-Controversial-end-to-the-A-League-season

Interesting.

Jarred Gillett's Wikipedia page until it got fixed:

Agree with that. Their best hope was holding out for 30mins and going to penalties. They would have thought they could do it though. I'm not so sure.

That is brilliant

I've read all the comments, but my first reation when watching live on TV was penalty.

What you have to remember is thats what the referee sees
too. He doesn't get a second look, he doesn't get the aid of the video ref, he doesn't get the aid of the replay.

Now you can call the ref all the names under the sun but thats his decision from a split second in time or in this case 1 - 2 seconds in time.

I agree with Andy Harper there is no way he [Berisha] took a dive, the referee could have concieviably seen the Perth players foot hit Berishas foot.

But giving the ref so much grief is I think a bit rich.

Think about it what if you had been the ref how would you have seen it ???????

One chance thats all Gillett got, at full game speed, all those having an opinion have watched replay after replay, remember Gillett didnt get that.

Anyway I am not a referee I have followed/played soccer for nigh on fifty years. If I have been the ref I would have awarded a penalty in this case as that was my initial/first reaction.

Ok start throwing the crap at me but thats my opinion.

I seem to be one of the few that at first glance thought it was clearly not a penalty  weird. My first words were "No way, it was just an airswing". My opinion hasn't changed upon viewing many replays.

and then there was this..

Just the appointment of a Brisbane ref, particularly one there has been debate about previously asked for trouble.

Only the FFA can f**k so much up in one game.

Grand final doesn't even rate .  Bloody netball!

Most watched on SKY Sport 1

1. ANZ Netball: 71,680 (7:20pm � 8:50pm)
2. ANZ Netball Post Game: 55,120 (3:40pm � 3:50pm)
3. ANZ Netball: 53,640 (2:15pm � 3:40pm)
4. ANZ Netball Pre Game: 44,930 (7:00pm � 7:20pm)
5. ANZ Netball Post Game: 36,980 (8:50pm � 9:00pm)

Most watched on SKY Sport 3

1. NRL: 26,110 (5:05pm � 6:45pm)
2. Sports Extra: 23,850 (6:50pm � 6:55pm)

mean that NZ sports viewers are just a bunch of dirty ol' men instead of actual sports fans.

http://www.thinktv.co.nz/about-tv/the-business-of-tv/understanding-tv-data/

I'm pretty sceptical about the ratings. Not sure what percentage of those 500/600 in the survey size even have mysky. For instance, in 2010 none of them did. Will never capture numbers who watch out in bars etc. In saying that I doubt many people did watch the grand final. Very surprised the netball is so high though.

OK done the level-headed multiple replay thing, and have concluded that the referee got it spot on. Well done Mr Gillett (and doesn't stop Berisha being an absolute cnut).

So that's that then.

When does the new season kick off?

Sep/Oct.. Either or.Azevo2012-04-23 21:48:48

You sure.  Pretty marginal on this angle.

http://pic.twitter.com/BO3G90GS

Link doesn't work anymore, was it this pic?



I would be interested in what the assistant thought, he is in a much better position see it than Gillett is.

Yup that's the one.

From that angle it does look onside.

The one I posted a few pages back looks like it's clearly offside, but the angle must make the illusion of him being offside. On the other one, we are going on feet position, in which case Berisha's feet are clearly closer to the goal than the defender. This photo shows that the Perth defender is leaning towards goal and Berisha away from goal. I'll go with onside and say the officials got this one correct as well.patrick4782012-04-24 10:02:14

Does look onside to me, but it does show how far away Gillett was from the foul and would have had a horrible angle to see it. I still think he should have spoken with the assistant that was much closer with a better view.

Best use of the Toilet Seat so far:

patrick4782012-04-24 11:01:13

Gillett's in a correct position in that shot.

Indeed he is. But should the reffing guidelines be changed so that refs are closer to the action, and therefore be able to make better decisions?

I don't think so. You don't want referees to be in the way of players/ball, and that would happen if you tried to get them too close. The distance is not a problem in itself, what's really important is to have clear sight-lines. If you have a clear sight-line, it doesn't matter if you're 5 or 20 metres away, you can still see perfectly well what happened. On the other hand you can be two metres away from something, but if someone's in your sight-line you won't see what really happened.

Good points. I remember watching my first non A-League game of football for ages when I watched the Liverpool vs Everton FA Cup semi, and I was surprised at how close Howard Webb was to the ball whenever he was making decisions on fouls.

I guess Gillet would have also got a lot closer to the play in the time that Berisha fluffed around with the ball on the edge of the box.

I do think it's great that the general concensus in the football media is that replays suggest that Gillet got the call 100% correct.

Yeah, just because Gillett's in that position during this passage of play doesn't mean he stayed there. I'd expect him to move towards the top of the D as the move went on and maintaining a clear sight-line (although that's not always possible).

Funny thing about Webb - I don't rate him at all, think he's a very poor decision-maker for someone who gets a lot of high-profile games. The other thing to remember is that referees will move much closer to the incident while awarding the foul, and that may give an appearance of them being closer to the spot of the foul than originally they may have been.el grapadura2012-04-24 11:43:27

I thought he had a terrible game, he was calling fouls for things that were much more harmless than other infringements he was letting go.

He was dreadful in the Champions League semi as well.

So it's sorted, Jared Gillet>Howard Webb?

"STAR striker Besart Berisha sent a scare through the Brisbane Roar camp today when he went down clutching his jaw at training.

The grand final hero tried to continue after being crunched during a training scrimmage but eventually retreated to the sidelines, where he applied an ice pack to his face."

I'm guessing one of the Perth fans stayed on . Well done that man