Mark Judan: Family Time

Moved to Straya area but we will keep the thread, same as other coaches who have been Nix coaches. 

Are we allowed to question Tyler's thread location now?

Ex nIx where are they now?

No

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/a-league/113511106/former-wellington-phoenix-coach-mark-rudans-transfer-dealings-raise-questions

I agree there is no reason to keep flogging the Rudan horse, but you read this article and just wonder what planet David Dome is on, especially this bit:

"When Rudan's departure was confirmed by the club, Dome said that he was not concerned that a possible conflict of interest could emerge given he was so heavily linked to Western United, and kept him involved in player retention.

He stood by that this week, stating that he only became aware that Rudan was going to be coaching Western United when he was unveiled on May 23, the morning after Wellington's end of season awards. That is despite numerous media reports linking Rudan with the vacancy."

I've wondered what planet Dome is on for a while now. He's either a complete space cadet, or he takes everyone else for fools. 

Innocent until a former Wellington Phoenix player who has signed for WUFC stands up and say Rudan spoke to me about the move WU before  (Insert last day of season end) 

Given how much nonsense is spoken by the footballing press/blogs (including false rumours deliberately spread by agents as leverage in contract negotiations), which media reports should Dome be taking as the good oil and which should he be ignoring until they're confirmed?

Well the media were 100% right on this one.  I personally think Rudan had given WU a handshake somewhere around January

You didn't answer the question. How can you tell at the time whether a media report is the good oil, given all the deliberate misinformation? One answer would be "if it comes from a credible football journo"; but we all know that journos across the ditch (eg D. Bossi) are dumpsters for FFA disinformation. And my point about anonymous blogs retailing rumours spread by agents to get leverage in contract negotiations stands.

Unless I'm confused, the same blog which said "Rudan to Bitumens" was last year saying "Dome is moving the Nix to SW Sydney", which was a misinterpretation at best.

was it though?, they definitely had talks about it (taking the Nix to SW Sydney)

No, they had talks with taking investment. The Phoenix license is tied to New Zealand and cannot be sold outside of the country.

but didn't that investment include the club playing in new colours and half of their home games in south west sydney?, which pretty much would have killed it off over here. So the blog wasn't really that far of the mark

Posted by Siggys wife on Facebook:

Mark Rudan is an incredibly driven man who wants to win! If you are dealing with owners who won’t give you what you need financially to buy the players needed to achieve this why in God’s green earth would you want to continue coaching for them?????? I have the upmost respect for Mark Rudan he came here full of hope and ambition and I don’t think anyone can say that he didn’t deliver results. The players are leaving because of the club and how it’s managed not because of one man! Wake up everyone ?

Meh.   

Better Rob money than Terry money. Driven for himself and justifying going to play for his mates. 

He didn't deliver. He let his ambition cost us a home final. That should have been easily attainable. Look at Kurz -he played deep into the season 

So did Rudan leave because of the family issues, or because of the club? He should at least get his story straight if he's intent on continuing to lie about this.

It's amazing how much Kool Aid people in the NZ football community drink.

If people knew the half of the crap in Rudan's past, and present...

She sounds like someone making a post defending her decision not to vaccinate her kids. Wake up!!

Gee theres  a surprise guess Duras Mrs will be next to have a crack at the club. Amazing how he with the forked tongue managed to get some to sing his praises. As El says maybe they should get there stories straight before throwing shark at a club that has helped set them up.

I'm sure he'll use another Twitter account to 'anonymously' defend himself or another member of his family to pretend to be on social media, or visit another McDonalds.

Mrs Siggy is having a good ol rant over on the Facebooks.

'It’s all about how people are treated in the club....... from Coaches to players, office staff, and volunteers They don’t value people’s contributions to the club unless all eyes are watching eg: award ceremonies. It’s all for show, it’s fake and all so things look hunky dory to the outside world. If you are not valued you become bitter and bitterness is poisonous. Bitterness breeds negativity and unproductive staff.'

'I have personally seen the downward trend of this club and over the years I have had many, many players, players families, office staff, and volunteers talk to me about the lack of loyalty and respect shown to them. It’s not all about money Trent it’s clearly about being treated with respect! Something that is clearly lacking in this club unfortunately.'

I only post this because I assume being close to the club she does have somewhat of a clue of what's going on, and I find her perspective interesting. 

Hmmmm, I wonder whose story she's peddling there. Hmmm, it's such a mystery...

Fair call but nevertheless if my life depended trusting someone

Then Sigmund 

Would be 1000 times ahead of Mr David Dome 

If this club is to survive we don't want a bull shark artist but someone who knows how to manage people and the club

Is Sigmund a bull shark artist - no

Does he know how to manage people and a club - no

But there are people out there who do

And right now it's critical and on life support

How close is she to the club though, really? Did she recently work for the Nix? Does Siggy still work there? I honestly don't know.

Based upon Sigmunds recent comments about Dura, he is either a bull shark artist or still extremely close to him at the very least

This is coming extremely close from the coal face and its about time 

Dura and Siggy are pretty close.

I would hope David Dome wouldn't rely on the media for information regarding where his coach had signed, but according to him he had no knowledge until Mark turned up at the press conference. If that's the case I'd say he's not doing his job properly! 

If there is pod coming out soon, probably a good idea to get David Dome on. Have a lot of sympathy for Welnix, but they have been too slow to respond to damaging rumours/stories like this in the past.

Need to hear his version of Rudan's exit etc.

think you would get more truth from Mrs Sigmund 

Well, it's a 'truth'. Which, coincidentally, I have strong reasons to suspect is tainted by the entitlement and self-serving purposes of her source for it. And I've probably said enough about it now.

Could probably make enough money to sign a decent marquee if somone follows around the club and hangers-on for a season with TV cameras, there's certainly enough drama, rumours, half-truths and backstabbing to make a decent reality show.

Go Mrs Siggy!!!!

This is great...about time some light was shone on the management and culture of this club.

We have just finished another shambolic and chaotic season.....just like the season before and the season before that and the season before that. Yet the same management are still there. Still making their dumb arse decisions.. Still running the club like a popup business. 

I am a big fan of Welnix. They saved this club. Their hearts(and money) are in the right place. But they admit they are not football people. The biggest mistake they have made IMO is failing to recognise that the club has continuing serious day to day management problems. They have failed to address that the people they have managing the club are not up to the job. Does anyone think that this club would be in the shiite it is in now if we still had a CEO like Tony Pignata in charge????

You can take Mrs Siggy's rant however you want but I am sure there is quite a lot of truth in what she said. If a club legend like Dura does not see a future in this club(management or what ever) then you know their is a huge cultural problem within this club. 

Running a football club is not just about appointing a coach and a bunch of players. The most successful clubs are those who have a strong club culture, who nurture their young players along side the vets. Where everyone from the volunteers to the kids in the academy all feel part of the same structure. Where there is a place for the old pro's who have something to put back into the club. The Nix are failing on just about every level. 

How to fix this? I posted about 18 months ago that Welnix should get some serious management advice. The clubs whole management structure needs a review. My ideal panel would include Pignata and maybe guys like Tim Brown, Ifill, Herbert etc. They should have an open brief to talk privately to everyone at the club, from the volunteers to the CEO to the fan groups. 

IMO the club is fixable. We have good cashed up owners, a fantastic academy and a good supporter base. We need to get back to the same club culture we had 8 to 10 years ago when everyone was on the same song sheet and teams hated coming to Westpac

Or Rudan has a lot more clout and funding in Australia than the club does. 

Are you bashing the club management on any information apart from the rantings of a wife of an ex-player who may or may not have an agenda?

From an outside (way outside) view looking in:

* The club has great corporate sponsorship and a fantastic corporate offering. Huawei's current spat with the US notwithstanding, does any other club have a Fortune 500 as the major shirt sponsor?

* I don't know what else to expect, but the clubs engagement with grass-roots supporters seems to be solid. Every week there is a story about players mixing it up with a school group, at a hospital, taking kids training or whatever. The club is also reported to have amoung the highest engagement on social media in the A-league. Is there an issue here?

* The academy is only a few years old, but appears to be very well run in terms of the output and looks to be going from strength to strength. The academy teams train with the pro's, and they get decent game time compared with the rest of the league. That part of your criticism seems the most bizarre. Has there ever been any word from anyone in the club that the academy/first team situation is out of whack? The on-field results and off-field engagement doesn't really suggest there is.

* Nix Management even have their academy team playing at a decent level in a competition run by the clusterfudge that is NZF. NZF who reportedly wanted nothing to do with the Nix for most of the Nix's existence but now appear to get along.

* The management team appear to have a very good relationship with all the entities involved in the discussions around an independent A-League outside of the FFA. With the myriad of vested interest involved, this can be nothing other than astute management. 

* Despite the FFA doing everything they can to get the Nix kicked out of the A-league, we are still going and at least outwardly management is confident that the license will be renewed and the Nix will be in the league for years to come. You seem to blame the shark the club has been through in relation to the FFA on management decisions, I personally take the view that the management team has been incredible to navigate the team through this period of uncertainty. Not commenting on rumours, not taking bait from the media and hopefully getting the team out the other side in a stronger position that it was before.

* Player recruitement has been solid, player retention has generally been solid up until the Rudan saga. Taking everything that has happened with that snake of an ex-coach and ret-conning it to mean the club has always had culture issues with Welnix seems to be a reach.

I'll believe the club is in a shark state and is run by monkey's if Greenacre decides to leave.

I'm not sure I have read a bigger bunch of rubbish in the 12 years since 2007 and that includes the claims WGA were going to save us.

If the club still had Tony P in charge we'd be spending money we don't have, have no academy, be breaking the salary cap and be in massive financial trouble.

To solve the problem, next PodCast - D. Dome V D. Sigmund. Best of three rounds.......

not sure if Mrs Siggy's word can be taken too seriously, she's got a clear bias towards her husband's friends. People may recall her last serious of rants protecting her hubby after his thuggish before during a particular All Whites game.

Given the club did fudge-all for Dura's testimonial and left Sarah to do the bulk of it, yeah, I wouldn't mind her having a crack at the club.

Eeh? That's not cool 

That is very, very far from the truth. But since I know where your information comes from, I'm not surprised at all.