Legend
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Curse you coochiee, with your logical argument & valid points that I can't disagree with.

Yeah look Foley's stated aim of a 20k-25K downtown purpose built stadium would be great, but sadly it just doesn't fit in with what Auckland needs right now. I'm sure since he first made that comment late last year he's been told that. But yeah doesn't mean it won't happen at some future date - just that he would get alot local opposition to that idea - especially if a larger National Stadium that can go into club mode is built. The 2 venues then in a zero sum game competing for events.

Probably his best hope is that the revamped Eden Park 2.0 option wins the day of the 4 National Stadium options. I think a lot of Aucklanders/Kiwis would see that as a short sighted choice, and yes then throw some support behind Foley's proposed smaller downtown structure.
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I thought Foley said a 17.5k stadium is what he wanted to build for AKL FC. And he was putting it out there for what land might be available for that.  A re-vamped NHS might be appealing, unless there is some other land that might come available. Building a national stadium is a whole different thing entirely.
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coochiee
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Curse you coochiee, with your logical argument & valid points that I can't disagree with.

Yeah look Foley's stated aim of a 20k-25K downtown purpose built stadium would be great, but sadly it just doesn't fit in with what Auckland needs right now. I'm sure since he first made that comment late last year he's been told that. But yeah doesn't mean it won't happen at some future date - just that he would get alot local opposition to that idea - especially if a larger National Stadium that can go into club mode is built. The 2 venues then in a zero sum game competing for events.

Probably his best hope is that the revamped Eden Park 2.0 option wins the day of the 4 National Stadium options. I think a lot of Aucklanders/Kiwis would see that as a short sighted choice, and yes then throw some support behind Foley's proposed smaller downtown structure.

if he's going to pay for it with his own money, who cares! 
Just put it someone easily accessible by public transport.
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Good luck building anything major in NZ without the support of Council, Iwi and/or the Beehive.
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coochiee
Good luck building anything major in NZ without the support of Council, Iwi and/or the Beehive.
Correct, you should consult stakeholders before undertaking major construction. (But also please build infrastructure, we need it badly)
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coochiee

Love the speedway guys. They don’t seem to talk as much as everyone else, but they get results. You wouldn’t wanna bet against it being more than one year either…

I mean let’s be honest- who wants it more between the test cricket crowd and these guys? 
Legend
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Curse you coochiee, with your logical argument & valid points that I can't disagree with.

Yeah look Foley's stated aim of a 20k-25K downtown purpose built stadium would be great, but sadly it just doesn't fit in with what Auckland needs right now. I'm sure since he first made that comment late last year he's been told that. But yeah doesn't mean it won't happen at some future date - just that he would get alot local opposition to that idea - especially if a larger National Stadium that can go into club mode is built. The 2 venues then in a zero sum game competing for events.

Probably his best hope is that the revamped Eden Park 2.0 option wins the day of the 4 National Stadium options. I think a lot of Aucklanders/Kiwis would see that as a short sighted choice, and yes then throw some support behind Foley's proposed smaller downtown structure.

if he's going to pay for it with his own money, who cares! 
Just put it someone easily accessible by public transport.

*just sneak an amendment down the bottom of the page: 
“…will pay for stadium AND for two additional rapid mass transit lines within the Auckland isthmus to be built within 15 years, that are not busways.” Intialled BF and BFFs. 
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Bossi Insider
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Thats a worse location than North Harbour..going west is arguably worse than north because there isnt the busway
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Thats a worse location than North Harbour..going west is arguably worse than north because there isnt the busway

There's a train station 300 meters away
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coochiee

Love the speedway guys. They don’t seem to talk as much as everyone else, but they get results. You wouldn’t wanna bet against it being more than one year either…

I mean let’s be honest- who wants it more between the test cricket crowd and these guys? 

I wonder what the average attendance for speedway is?

I think it would surprise many locals how popular motorsport is in New Zealand. Every time I've been it's looked pretty crowded.
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coochiee

"To be nominated in such Illustrious company and globally iconic stadia highlights Eden Park’s standing as a world leader in the industry"

I can name you 100 stadiums from across the globe that are head and tails above Eden Park, if not 150 +

The only reason they are nominated is because they hosted the WWC. 

These "awards" that we have for everything nowaday aren't to be taken too seriously 
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coochiee

Love the speedway guys. They don’t seem to talk as much as everyone else, but they get results. You wouldn’t wanna bet against it being more than one year either…

I mean let’s be honest- who wants it more between the test cricket crowd and these guys? 
I live in Morningside. I hate the speedway. But I acknowledge they were there first.
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Maybe Foley can grab some land from Avondale Racecourse for a small stadium?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350237729/community-raises-concerns-avondale-racecourse-tipped-housing

It passes the "easily accessible by public transport" test, especially after the CRL opens
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Maybe Foley can grab some land from Avondale Racecourse for a small stadium?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350237729/community-raises-concerns-avondale-racecourse-tipped-housing

It passes the "easily accessible by public transport" test, especially after the CRL opens

Article mentions the locals want to keep their Sunday Markets and the playing fields. A training base and small stadium works for easing those concerns. 
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Wouldn’t leave much else. Therefore not a goer I’d say (what the locals want that is).
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Maybe Foley can grab some land from Avondale Racecourse for a small stadium?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350237729/community-raises-concerns-avondale-racecourse-tipped-housing

It passes the "easily accessible by public transport" test, especially after the CRL opens

Article mentions the locals want to keep their Sunday Markets and the playing fields. A training base and small stadium works for easing those concerns. 
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Doloras
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Maybe Foley can grab some land from Avondale Racecourse for a small stadium?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350237729/community-raises-concerns-avondale-racecourse-tipped-housing

It passes the "easily accessible by public transport" test, especially after the CRL opens

Article mentions the locals want to keep their Sunday Markets and the playing fields. A training base and small stadium works for easing those concerns. 
Well, SOME locals. The ones who own property and don't want its value tarnished by a bunch of apartments filled with poors nearby . The ones who say "I'm not a NIMBY but..."

The Avondale markets should have space to continue but the racecourse is garbage as a sports field, I know, I've played on it.
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martinb
coochiee

Love the speedway guys. They don’t seem to talk as much as everyone else, but they get results. You wouldn’t wanna bet against it being more than one year either…

I mean let’s be honest- who wants it more between the test cricket crowd and these guys? 
I live in Morningside. I hate the speedway. But I acknowledge they were there first.

Depends which way the wind blows! I know a couple back in the day who told all their friends not to buy Stones tickets as they could hear it all at their house. 

Despite Pink Floyd having come through loud and clear when they played there, even with the windows closed, the Stones couldn’t be heard from anywhere, even the edge of the deck with hand cupped to ear…
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martinb
Doloras
martinb
coochiee

Love the speedway guys. They don’t seem to talk as much as everyone else, but they get results. You wouldn’t wanna bet against it being more than one year either…

I mean let’s be honest- who wants it more between the test cricket crowd and these guys? 
I live in Morningside. I hate the speedway. But I acknowledge they were there first.

Depends which way the wind blows! I know a couple back in the day who told all their friends not to buy Stones tickets as they could hear it all at their house. 

Despite Pink Floyd having come through loud and clear when they played there, even with the windows closed, the Stones couldn’t be heard from anywhere, even the edge of the deck with hand cupped to ear…

That's coz they were playing in a swimming pool (onstage homage to Brian)
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I got a good earful of the last AC/DC gig, but what really kept me awake was the wasted bogans staggering past our house after lol
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I didnt go home that way….
Doloras
I got a good earful of the last AC/DC gig, but what really kept me awake was the wasted bogans staggering past our house after lol
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Burgess article in 2day's Herald on the proposed new Downtown Quay Pk stadium, mostly interview with Rugby boss Mark Robinson, but a few references ... "New A- League franchise Auck FC  turned down the chance to play at Eden Pk" ... and quoting Robinson "It would be a really interesting proposition to bring value to the table with a potential partner in the stadium and think about how we could help each other to create value". 
Red herring? Or have NZR and Foley been having a recent chat or two?
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Burgess article in 2day's Herald on the proposed new Downtown Quay Pk stadium, mostly interview with Rugby boss Mark Robinson, but a few references ... "New A- League franchise Auck FC  turned down the chance to play at Eden Pk" ... and quoting Robinson "It would be a really interesting proposition to bring value to the table with a potential partner in the stadium and think about how we could help each other to create value". 
Red herring? Or have NZR and Foley been having a recent chat or two?

The nix's annual revenue is thought to be $9-10M.  Victory most recent annual accounts suggest annual revenue at around the $20M mark.

What makes you think Foley could/would consider fund a stadium build, other than pure fantasy?

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Yes but neither VUC nor Nix have talked about building their own purpose built like Billionaire Foley.

 Auckland could technically be the richest club in the ALM before even kicking a ball, by some people’s definition 

And Robinson could be referring to a partner co tenant. I don’t think the NZR want to pay for a new stadium they want one built for them
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Jessie Merino
Burgess article in 2day's Herald on the proposed new Downtown Quay Pk stadium, mostly interview with Rugby boss Mark Robinson, but a few references ... "New A- League franchise Auck FC  turned down the chance to play at Eden Pk" ... and quoting Robinson "It would be a really interesting proposition to bring value to the table with a potential partner in the stadium and think about how we could help each other to create value". 
Red herring? Or have NZR and Foley been having a recent chat or two?

The nix's annual revenue is thought to be $9-10M.  Victory most recent annual accounts suggest annual revenue at around the $20M mark.

What makes you think Foley could/would consider fund a stadium build, other than pure fantasy?


Read previous posts on this thread mate.
Life and death
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Foley’s Bournemouth are apparently building a new 18000 seater stadium ( which seems small to me but their fanbase might not be that big). So maybe just use those plans and make Auckland’s cheaper
WeeNix
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Napier Phoenix
Foley’s Bournemouth are apparently building a new 18000 seater stadium ( which seems small to me but their fanbase might not be that big). So maybe just use those plans and make Auckland’s cheaper

Vitality holds less than 12k, so 18k is 50% larger than current.
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ClubOranje
Napier Phoenix
Foley’s Bournemouth are apparently building a new 18000 seater stadium ( which seems small to me but their fanbase might not be that big). So maybe just use those plans and make Auckland’s cheaper

Vitality holds less than 12k, so 18k is 50% larger than current.

Yip current ground is one of the smallest decent stadiums in British pro sport, especially at the highest level.

Vitality is a good ground and would be perfect for the Nix or Knights Mk2.
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NZ's two best stadiums to be in the South Island from April 2026.
Nix's new 'home away from home'?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350262798/christchurchs-new-te-kaha-stadium-taking-shape
WeeNix
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Marto wrote:
Vitality is a good ground and would be perfect for the Nix or Knights Mk2.


Probably a bit far of a commute for most Phoenix fans, not to mention the players..
Life and death
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Still more accessible from Auckland CBD than North Harbour Stadium some would have you believe lol
ClubOranje
Marto wrote:
Vitality is a good ground and would be perfect for the Nix or Knights Mk2.


Probably a bit far of a commute for most Phoenix fans, not to mention the players..
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coochiee
NZ's two best stadiums to be in the South Island from April 2026.
Nix's new 'home away from home'?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350262798/christchurchs-new-te-kaha-stadium-taking-shape

Waikato stadium is better then Dunners.
Legend
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Marto
coochiee
NZ's two best stadiums to be in the South Island from April 2026.
Nix's new 'home away from home'?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350262798/christchurchs-new-te-kaha-stadium-taking-shape

Waikato stadium is better then Dunners.

You do feel very close to the action at the Tron. Like you can sometimes clearly hear what the playes are saying.

But one of the few times I've been there I had my view partially blocked by a giant grandstand support beam. Then if it's raining & cold it's a bit shark.
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The north stand at Forsyth Barr provides the best live sports viewing angle there is in NZ. It's fairly close to the pitch and very steep so you get a great view of everything. Plus it's always dry and playing conditions are always perfect. Waikato Stadium is better than Sky and Eden because it is rectangular but it has nothing else going for it apart from that. 
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The north stand at Forsyth Barr provides the best live sports viewing angle there is in NZ. It's fairly close to the pitch and very steep so you get a great view of everything. Plus it's always dry and playing conditions are always perfect. Waikato Stadium is better than Sky and Eden because it is rectangular but it has nothing else going for it apart from that. 

Closest operating stadium to a city apart from the Cake Tin.
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It is a shorter walk from Forsyth Barr Stadium to the Octagon than it is from FML Stadium to Hood Street. Sorry dude but your stadium just isn't that good.
Marto
imanixsupporter
The north stand at Forsyth Barr provides the best live sports viewing angle there is in NZ. It's fairly close to the pitch and very steep so you get a great view of everything. Plus it's always dry and playing conditions are always perfect. Waikato Stadium is better than Sky and Eden because it is rectangular but it has nothing else going for it apart from that. 

Closest operating stadium to a city apart from the Cake Tin.
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coochiee

makes perfect sense, the warriors are more than happy where they are, why would they commit to some unknown if the cost of leving is always known?

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