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2014/15 Transfer Speculation

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over 11 years ago

I'm not saying they are not good enough, nor is Boyd 'the answer'. I am saying 'what kind of message do you send'

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 11 years ago

I don't think they will sign a striker as a replacement. I think they will give that time to Boyd and perhaps Cunningham. Make use of the talents that they have.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 11 years ago

I think you send the message that we are a professional club and if you want to be a part of it then you need to show you are good enough.

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over 11 years ago

that we will sign and pick the players who can best do a job for the club.

I don't think we will be signing Killen though. not sure we would want him to come halfway through a season without any match practice. Although perhaps he could get some time with the squad during the Asian cup. 


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over 11 years ago

Killen has retired after his achilles injury.

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over 11 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

Killen has retired after his achilles injury.

Well that settles that yarn then! 

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over 11 years ago

Does any awesome person have a list of people close to or at the end of the contract that could be eligible to play without a visa spot??

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over 11 years ago

Ryan54 wrote:

Boyd isn't a central striker for me. His goal scoring record has hardly been impressive at any level. In the past when I have brought up Fallon/Killen the general consensus has been that they aren't good enough. Of course, we currently have no visa spots left and there aren't many quality Australian/New Zealand strikers going around. If we want to sign another striker you are probably looking at Killen

To be fair, McGlinchey was basically playing the closest equivalent to a 'central striking' position we had against City and he's hardly a renowned goal scorer. I think Boyd could do a job in our current system there.

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over 11 years ago

valeo wrote:

Ryan54 wrote:

Boyd isn't a central striker for me. His goal scoring record has hardly been impressive at any level. In the past when I have brought up Fallon/Killen the general consensus has been that they aren't good enough. Of course, we currently have no visa spots left and there aren't many quality Australian/New Zealand strikers going around. If we want to sign another striker you are probably looking at Killen

To be fair, McGlinchey was basically playing the closest equivalent to a 'central striking' position we had against City and he's hardly a renowned goal scorer. I think Boyd could do a job in our current system there.

win pens.

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I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

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over 11 years ago

Jerzy Merino wrote:

valeo wrote:

Ryan54 wrote:

Boyd isn't a central striker for me. His goal scoring record has hardly been impressive at any level. In the past when I have brought up Fallon/Killen the general consensus has been that they aren't good enough. Of course, we currently have no visa spots left and there aren't many quality Australian/New Zealand strikers going around. If we want to sign another striker you are probably looking at Killen

To be fair, McGlinchey was basically playing the closest equivalent to a 'central striking' position we had against City and he's hardly a renowned goal scorer. I think Boyd could do a job in our current system there.

win pens.

Dura seemed to have that covered on Sunday.

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over 11 years ago

SST are reporting theiry Henry (spelling) is set for a 10 game guest stint at WSW

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over 11 years ago

maynardf wrote:

SST are reporting theiry Henry (spelling) is set for a 10 game guest stint at WSW

This is great popcorn eating material if true.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 11 years ago

lets sign Gerrard. Lol

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over 11 years ago

A return of Mini Judas perhaps?

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over 11 years ago

sthn.jeff wrote:

A return of Mini Judas perhaps?

Really wouldn't wish that on him. That'd be like getting an audition in Hollywood, failing, then coming home and moving back with your parents and getting that old paper round.


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over 11 years ago

Joel Stevens will be the most likely replacement if Brockie takes up this South Afriacan gig. Just not many options for Kiwi/Aussie forwards currently.

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over 11 years ago

Nathan Blake got a mention in an article i saw today.. can't recall.

Can't say I know much about him, but he's been talked up as an Ernie favourite.

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over 11 years ago

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Nathan Blake got a mention in an article i saw today.. can't recall.

Can't say I know much about him, but he's been talked up as an Ernie favourite.

We have the spot vacated by Caira, so would probably replace him on the books
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over 11 years ago

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Blake got a mention in an article i saw today.. can't recall.

Can't say I know much about him, but he's been talked up as an Ernie favourite.

We have the spot vacated by Caira, so would probably replace him on the books

I think we have a number of similar type players in the positions he plays, contracted.

A fan is a fan.

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over 11 years ago

Joel Stevens will be the most likely replacement if Brockie takes up this South Afriacan gig. Just not many options for Kiwi/Aussie forwards currently.

If Joel Stevens is the answer, what is the question???

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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over 11 years ago · edited over 11 years ago · History

Ernie is looking for a striker, but we are sort of OK at the moment if nobody gets injured in that department. 

Burns, Krishna and Weemac are sort of first choice, with Boyd and Kenny (for the moment) our backup/bench.

For my money, we should sit tight until Brockie goes in January. I do not see any point in madly scratching around for a quick replacement for JB now - let's wait till the right man comes along..

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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over 11 years ago

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Nathan Blake got a mention in an article i saw today.. can't recall.

Can't say I know much about him, but he's been talked up as an Ernie favourite.

He's actually Andrew Blake.  Has looked pretty impressive in the weenix games I've seen, although he's not been playing as a striker.

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over 11 years ago

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Nathan Blake got a mention in an article i saw today.. can't recall.

Can't say I know much about him, but he's been talked up as an Ernie favourite.

He's actually Andrew Blake.  Has looked pretty impressive in the weenix games I've seen, although he's not been playing as a striker.

Not a Striker? 

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over 11 years ago

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Nathan Blake got a mention in an article i saw today.. can't recall.

Can't say I know much about him, but he's been talked up as an Ernie favourite.

He's actually Andrew Blake.  Has looked pretty impressive in the weenix games I've seen, although he's not been playing as a striker.

Yeah found it a strange mention. Like Worthington (?) just picked a name from the Wee Nix team sheet.


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over 11 years ago

How about Smeltz? Just watching A-League highlights and surely he's not happy being bit part for Sydney?

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over 11 years ago

energy24.7 wrote:

How about Smeltz? Just watching A-League highlights and surely he's not happy being bit part for Sydney?

Gameiro is gone for the season - Smeltz will start most games.

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over 11 years ago

Tegal wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Nathan Blake got a mention in an article i saw today.. can't recall.

Can't say I know much about him, but he's been talked up as an Ernie favourite.

He's actually Andrew Blake.  Has looked pretty impressive in the weenix games I've seen, although he's not been playing as a striker.

Yeah found it a strange mention. Like Worthington (?) just picked a name from the Wee Nix team sheet.

Massive wraps from Ernie on the guy  - sounds like a wonder player who can play any position except goalie with aplomb:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/63734008/Bro...

 Merrick is also a big fan of Junior All White Andrew Blake, a member of the Phoenix's ASB Premiership team.

Athletic and pacy, Blake can cover a multitude of positions and is line for an upgrade to an A-League contract if he can maintain his eye-catching form.

"Blake is on track for a professional contract, he's just getting better and better," Merrick said last week.

"He's one of the fastest in the team and every time I look at him he grows. I think he's grown three foot in the last couple of weeks. His future would be as a midfielder because he's very strong as a midfielder. But he can also play as an attacker, as a centre back or a fullback.

"The mother of invention is necessity and he's doing well as a fullback because he's got the pace. It would be really good to have him as a backup fullback and I reckon he could play defensive midfield, he could play anywhere."

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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over 11 years ago

Big Pete 65 wrote:

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 Merrick is also a big fan of Junior All White Andrew Blake, a member of the Phoenix's ASB Premiership team.

Athletic and pacy, Blake can cover a multitude of positions and is line for an upgrade to an A-League contract if he can maintain his eye-catching form.

"Blake is on track for a professional contract, he's just getting better and better," Merrick said last week.

"He's one of the fastest in the team and every time I look at him he grows. I think he's grown three foot in the last couple of weeks. His future would be as a midfielder because he's very strong as a midfielder. But he can also play as an attacker, as a centre back or a fullback.

"The mother of invention is necessity and he's doing well as a fullback because he's got the pace. It would be really good to have him as a backup fullback and I reckon he could play defensive midfield, he could play anywhere."

I agree - we should have a backup Fenton.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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over 11 years ago

Whether he makes it or not, I do think it is great that these young kiwi lads are getting a shot at grabbing a pro contract in NZ. The whole setup has really come a long way from where we were 5 years ago.

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over 11 years ago

Probably not entirely relevant based on reading the past few pages, but are we likely to get a fee for Brockie? 

This 'club' sounds like it's got some cash, especially for a striker who hasn't bulged the net too often in recent times.

All for Boyd and Cunningham getting more of a chance, although I'm not too sure how they could work in the current system. Can't say I know enough about Blake etc to make an informed opinion.

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over 11 years ago

Really hope to see either Rufer or Ridenton cement a place in our first team over the next couple of years.

a.haak

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over 11 years ago

YoungHeart wrote:

Probably not entirely relevant based on reading the past few pages, but are we likely to get a fee for Brockie? 

This 'club' sounds like it's got some cash, especially for a striker who hasn't bulged the net too often in recent times.

All for Boyd and Cunningham getting more of a chance, although I'm not too sure how they could work in the current system. Can't say I know enough about Blake etc to make an informed opinion.

under contract means you'd get a fee. Unless they release him to sign before the opening of the SA transfer window
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over 11 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

YoungHeart wrote:

Probably not entirely relevant based on reading the past few pages, but are we likely to get a fee for Brockie? 

This 'club' sounds like it's got some cash, especially for a striker who hasn't bulged the net too often in recent times.

All for Boyd and Cunningham getting more of a chance, although I'm not too sure how they could work in the current system. Can't say I know enough about Blake etc to make an informed opinion.

under contract means you'd get a fee. Unless they release him to sign before the opening of the SA transfer window

With only 6 months left in Brockie's deal and no signs of a new deal, I would think it will be release him for free to take up other opportunities and be happy with the wage savings.
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over 11 years ago

Why would we let Brockie go if we don't get a fee? Are we just that nice? Brockie has not been brilliant but he could still play some role for us if he was to stay.

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over 11 years ago

Don't have to pay him

You know we belong together...

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over 11 years ago

But if we release him he also counts against the cap. I'd expect it to be a pretty nominal fee.

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over 11 years ago

But if we release him he also counts against the cap. I'd expect it to be a pretty nominal fee.

mutual termination doesn't count towards the cap (or only whatever is agreed on payout - normally not the whole remainder of the contract)
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over 11 years ago

Mainland FC wrote:

Joel Stevens will be the most likely replacement if Brockie takes up this South Afriacan gig. Just not many options for Kiwi/Aussie forwards currently.

If Joel Stevens is the answer, what is the question???

Who is an available forward who is not an import, who can be put on really cheap contract and fit in with this whole develop the kids and youth and local etc etc who will give a feel good factor and might not be 100% pants and we can always let go after this season if he is?



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over 11 years ago

martinb wrote:

Mainland FC wrote:

Joel Stevens will be the most likely replacement if Brockie takes up this South Afriacan gig. Just not many options for Kiwi/Aussie forwards currently.

If Joel Stevens is the answer, what is the question???

Who is an available forward who is not an import, who can be put on really cheap contract and fit in with this whole develop the kids and youth and local etc etc who will give a feel good factor and might not be 100% pants and we can always let go after this season if he is?

That all makes eminent sense - i was simply airing my ignorance about Joel Stevens. Any more on him?

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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over 11 years ago

THIERRY HENRY is free...but quite expensive

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