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2015/16 Preseason - v Auckland City | 2pm Sat 26th September | Home & Garden Show @ Westpac Stadium

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over 10 years ago

He's like the Nix version of a poor cousin... we invite him to family events or when we need numbers but for the more important events we avoid him in case he tries to sleep with his sister.

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over 10 years ago

Following another penalty miss in Sydney, for penalty kick advice the Nix coaching staff should watch 'Man versus Expert' on their next flight from/to Australia.  I watched it this week on a Qantas flight across the ditch.  It features a non-professional British hustler/amateur footballer trying to beat the EPLs record penalty taker Matthew Le Tissier. Really interesting and a very close result. Anything might help. The current rate of Nix penalty conversions must be well below 50%.

Typhoon Tim
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over 10 years ago

Typhoon wrote:

Following another penalty miss in Sydney, for penalty kick advice the Nix coaching staff should watch 'Man versus Expert' on their next flight from/to Australia.  I watched it this week on a Qantas flight across the ditch.  It features a non-professional British hustler/amateur footballer trying to beat the EPLs record penalty taker Matthew Le Tissier. Really interesting and a very close result. Anything might help. The current rate of Nix penalty conversions must be well below 50%.

There's a great article by the Freakonomics guys on penalty taking.  Basically said that when choosing which way to dive, goalies guess to the strong side 46% of the time, and to the weak side 42% of the time.  What they read in to that is that goalies guess, and dive, 98% of the time, so statistically the best option for the kicker is straight down the middle.  So why does hardly anyone ever go straight?  Probably because of the fear of embarrassment of going straight and having the keeper stay still and save it.  Better to have you're shot saved going for a corner than up the middle, even though the middle is the better option.

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over 10 years ago

Any coverage of tonights game?

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over 10 years ago

Doubtful outside of tweets and comments on here.

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over 10 years ago

Rosco wrote:

Typhoon wrote:

Following another penalty miss in Sydney, for penalty kick advice the Nix coaching staff should watch 'Man versus Expert' on their next flight from/to Australia.  I watched it this week on a Qantas flight across the ditch.  It features a non-professional British hustler/amateur footballer trying to beat the EPLs record penalty taker Matthew Le Tissier. Really interesting and a very close result. Anything might help. The current rate of Nix penalty conversions must be well below 50%.

There's a great article by the Freakonomics guys on penalty taking.  Basically said that when choosing which way to dive, goalies guess to the strong side 46% of the time, and to the weak side 42% of the time.  What they read in to that is that goalies guess, and dive, 98% of the time, so statistically the best option for the kicker is straight down the middle.  So why does hardly anyone ever go straight?  Probably because of the fear of embarrassment of going straight and having the keeper stay still and save it.  Better to have you're shot saved going for a corner than up the middle, even though the middle is the better option.

I couldn't agree more, strikers should have the confidence to put it straight every now and then and if they miss then so be it. 

The only thing is i've seen a lot of penalties go straight but along the ground so the keeper still saves it with their legs even though they jumped out of the way. 

Just get 30cm of height on it and it'll probably be a goal


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over 10 years ago

SmithsCity wrote:

Rosco wrote:

Typhoon wrote:

Following another penalty miss in Sydney, for penalty kick advice the Nix coaching staff should watch 'Man versus Expert' on their next flight from/to Australia.  I watched it this week on a Qantas flight across the ditch.  It features a non-professional British hustler/amateur footballer trying to beat the EPLs record penalty taker Matthew Le Tissier. Really interesting and a very close result. Anything might help. The current rate of Nix penalty conversions must be well below 50%.

There's a great article by the Freakonomics guys on penalty taking.  Basically said that when choosing which way to dive, goalies guess to the strong side 46% of the time, and to the weak side 42% of the time.  What they read in to that is that goalies guess, and dive, 98% of the time, so statistically the best option for the kicker is straight down the middle.  So why does hardly anyone ever go straight?  Probably because of the fear of embarrassment of going straight and having the keeper stay still and save it.  Better to have you're shot saved going for a corner than up the middle, even though the middle is the better option.

I couldn't agree more, strikers should have the confidence to put it straight every now and then and if they miss then so be it. 

The only thing is i've seen a lot of penalties go straight but along the ground so the keeper still saves it with their legs even though they jumped out of the way. 

Just get 30cm of height on it and it'll probably be a goal

That being said if you put it straight and your 2% chance comes true they're very likely to save it. However if you aim right and the keeper goes the same way there's still every chance it'll get in the goal


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over 10 years ago

Never put it down the middle in 6th div. Keepers are too overweight to dive.

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over 10 years ago

I'd say putting it down the middle is probably better in high pressure situations considering the keeper probably feels like they have to at least look like theyre doing something.

a.haak

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over 10 years ago

While in 98% of cases te keeper dives, that doesn't mean that the middle of the goal is open to be scored through 98% of the time. Keepers with trailing legs can still stop penalties.


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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over 10 years ago

What a load of tosh. This assumes a keeper always dives as or before the ball is kicked

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over 10 years ago · edited over 10 years ago · History

Shooting straight:

@ 2:15

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over 10 years ago · edited over 10 years ago · History

Fixed all right.God that was so lame

                                                                        COYN    

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sthn.jeff wrote:

What a load of tosh. This assumes a keeper always dives as or before the ball is kicked

Yes it does, and this assumption was based on quantifiable data.  They researched a shark ton of penalties and recorded whether the keeper went strong side, weak side or stayed still.

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over 10 years ago

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over 10 years ago

pretty strong lineups. Hope Jeffa gets a run. 

I know, I know, its serious!

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over 10 years ago

Rosco wrote:

sthn.jeff wrote:

What a load of tosh. This assumes a keeper always dives as or before the ball is kicked

Yes it does, and this assumption was based on quantifiable data.  They researched a shark ton of penalties and recorded whether the keeper went strong side, weak side or stayed still.

Really? It seems to say nothing about WHEN the keeper dived, just which way the keeper dived.


Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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over 10 years ago

bwtcf wrote:

Rosco wrote:

sthn.jeff wrote:

What a load of tosh. This assumes a keeper always dives as or before the ball is kicked

Yes it does, and this assumption was based on quantifiable data.  They researched a shark ton of penalties and recorded whether the keeper went strong side, weak side or stayed still.

Really? It seems to say nothing about WHEN the keeper dived, just which way the keeper dived.

Oh yeah ok I see what you're saying.  I can't remember the article word for word but yeah I think it is assuming that, especially at a senior level, if a keeper waits until the ball is kicked he is pretty much dead in the water so is forced in to guessing.  It's not perfect research, and these guys are known for their "alternative" views on statistics, but if nothing else it's an interesting talking point.

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over 10 years ago
Sydney lineup is looking good. Real test for our boys.
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over 10 years ago

The Sydney Fever have made it...


Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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over 10 years ago

Shaun @shaunwilson34

Great ball by @Siggy2010 to release Roy. Cut out by the dodgy keeper


Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


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over 10 years ago

Shaun @shaunwilson34

A couple of sliced clearances Sydney blasts into the the Tasman


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Shaun @shaunwilson34

Blake wins a corner comes to nothing

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Shaun @shaunwilson34

10 minutes gone nil all pretty even so far

Anyone know who Dan Mendum is?


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Shaun @shaunwilson34

Once again strebe giving us nothing

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You used to be good...


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over 10 years ago

Shaun @shaunwilson34

Mickey with a free kick that the Sydney keeper deals with


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over 10 years ago

Shaun @shaunwilson34

25 gone still nil all still pretty even


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over 10 years ago

Shaun @shaunwilson34

No wonder Strebe didn't get a pro contract missed a blatant foul on Louie #sydvwel


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over 10 years ago

Shaun @shaunwilson34

Great one on one save by @Lewisitaliano after we get caught on the counter


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Sydney FC @SydneyFC

33' GOAL to @WgtnPhoenixFC Krishna opens the scoring. 0-1 #SydneyIsSkyBlue #SYDvWEL

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Shaun @shaunwilson34

Roy beats the defence and the keeper one nil to the @WgtnPhoenixFC

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Wellington Phoenix @WgtnPhoenixFC

32' Goal! Roy Krishna destroys @SydneyFC on the right beating the defence and the keeper to put the Nix up 1-0 #sydvwel


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over 10 years ago

Golazo!


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over 10 years ago

Double golazo!


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Sydney FC @SydneyFC

38' GOAL @WgtnPhoenixFC Powell makes it three. 0-3 #SydneyIsSkyBlue #SYDvWEL

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Sydney FC @SydneyFC

A splitting pass releases McGlinchey who draws in Vedran before squaring to Powell to tap in an empty net. #SydneyIsSkyBlue #SYDvWEL


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over 10 years ago

TRIPLE GOLAZO!!!


Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


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