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2015/16 Transfer Speculation

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about 10 years ago

Does the window close at midnight on the east coast of au?

Must have been Sarpong requesting a release rather than being sacked.

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about 10 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

shearer9 wrote:

Seriously hope the new lad does well - but how has Ben Harris not be given an opportunity? 8 from 8 at ASB - looks the real deal and has a bit of X-Factor about him..?

I thought Harris was ineffective against ACFC which I guess would be the benchmark for performance in this league. I didn't know how he has gone in other games and that could be an outlier but I would suspect if you are measuring the impact of the likes of Watson, Harris, Lovemore and co, its how they go against ACFC and not against.... say Southern, that would count.

Lea'alafa has gone off the boil from what I have seen of his latter games after such a bright start so has come back to the pack. I think the only one worthy of a look is de Vries possibly and see how he would go but he would be training pitch fodder I suspect and with Rogerson a project and Stephens destined for a contract, would we sign more fodder? Probably not.

I don't think there is anything in the ASBP that is worth signing that would improve the team. Plenty of guys you would give a go but would probably be not much more than training pitch fodder. If we are to lift standards, I would not think this is the avenue to go down although I respect we do have to fill a team and sign some Kiwis. Its just which ones are the ones to sign that improve the team.

Stephens?

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about 10 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

Apparently Harris only trains once a week because his body is shot. Not really what you're looking for in an A-league player.

Can confirm. Have reasonably close ties to the Nelson club that bought him over to NZ (played for them my whole junior years and in the 1st team up until 4 years ago and Dad was the treasurer for a decade) and he's had massive injury problems in recent years. Looks the goods but not sure he's worth an import slot, he's definitely not at full fitness yet though.

Valley FC til I die?

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about 10 years ago · edited about 10 years ago · History

wrong thread



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about 10 years ago

Ryan wrote:

Does the window close at midnight on the east coast of au?

Must have been Sarpong requesting a release rather than being sacked.

He was released before the Euro window closed, so I assume he will head back and look for a deal over there. He can sign outside the window because he was a free agent when their window closed.
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about 10 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

shearer9 wrote:

Seriously hope the new lad does well - but how has Ben Harris not be given an opportunity? 8 from 8 at ASB - looks the real deal and has a bit of X-Factor about him..?

I thought Harris was ineffective against ACFC which I guess would be the benchmark for performance in this league. I didn't know how he has gone in other games and that could be an outlier but I would suspect if you are measuring the impact of the likes of Watson, Harris, Lovemore and co, its how they go against ACFC and not against.... say Southern, that would count.

How did you think Corrales went?

A fan is a fan.

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about 10 years ago

Too bad Alex Wilkinson isn't on our radar (though perhaps he is and we just haven't heard anything). Would be a perfect replacement for Siggy + he's not a dick.

a.haak

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about 10 years ago
Yeah Wilkinson would be good


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about 10 years ago

Going to City. (Sauce).

Seriously - how many players do they need?

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about 10 years ago

hlmphil wrote:

Going to City. (Sauce).

Seriously - how many players do they need?

All of the players...

 
E + R + O

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hlmphil wrote:

Going to City. (Sauce).

Seriously - how many players do they need?

Beats the shark out of me how they afford the wage bill within the salary cap.  I'm sure there's something fecking shady going on...

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about 10 years ago

thatguynz wrote:

hlmphil wrote:

Going to City. (Sauce).

Seriously - how many players do they need?

Beats the shark out of me how they afford the wage bill within the salary cap.  I'm sure there's something fecking shady going on...

You could just as easily say the same thing about the Victory.

Must be a lot of fashion shows for the wives in Melbourne

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 10 years ago

Plenty of holes in the salary cap, 2 x marquees, mature age rookie, home grown player, etc. Also the connection to New York and Manchester City means that some players may take a salary cut just to be in that system and what it could mean if you over perform.

They also can't physically have a squad bigger than 23 + 2 or whatever it is.

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about 10 years ago

Ryan wrote:

Plenty of holes in the salary cap, 2 x marquees, mature age rookie, home grown player, etc. Also the connection to New York and Manchester City means that some players may take a salary cut just to be in that system and what it could mean if you over perform.

They also can't physically have a squad bigger than 23 + 2 or whatever it is.

Yeah, exactly - some teams are using the cap to the fullest potential, some aren't. 

a.haak

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about 10 years ago

valeo wrote:

Yeah, exactly - some teams are using the cap to the fullest potential, some aren't. 

I guess the question is whether "fullest potential" is within the FFA's definition thereof or Perth Glory's :)

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about 10 years ago

are Lia and Manny out of contract at the end of the season?

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about 10 years ago

Ryan wrote:

Plenty of holes in the salary cap, 2 x marquees, mature age rookie, home grown player, etc. Also the connection to New York and Manchester City means that some players may take a salary cut just to be in that system and what it could mean if you over perform.

They also can't physically have a squad bigger than 23 + 2 or whatever it is.

I don't think City have been around long enough (or have anyone who has) to have the home grown player, no mature age rookie so just the marquees and any youth players.

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about 10 years ago

Feverish wrote:

are Lia and Manny out of contract at the end of the season?

EXPIRES END OF 2015/16:

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Kwabena APPIAH-KUBI

Troy DANASKOS

Tom DOYLE

Andrew DURANTE

Justin GULLEY

Lewis ITALIANO

Alex JONES (f) (loan)

Roy KRISHNA (f)

Vince LIA

Michael McGLINCHEY

Manny MUSCAT

Blake POWELL (+1)

Matthew RIDENTON (u21)

Alex RODRIGUEZ GORRIN (f) (+1)

Alex RUFER (u21)

Ben SIGMUND

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about 10 years ago

RR wrote:

Feverish wrote:

are Lia and Manny out of contract at the end of the season?

EXPIRES END OF 2015/16:

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Wellington PHOENIX

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People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 10 years ago

mmmm.10 plus new players....

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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about 10 years ago

RR wrote:

Feverish wrote:

are Lia and Manny out of contract at the end of the season?

EXPIRES END OF 2015/16:

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Wellington PHOENIX (+4+3+3)

Fixed

More like this

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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about 10 years ago

Mainland FC wrote:

RR wrote:

Feverish wrote:

are Lia and Manny out of contract at the end of the season?

EXPIRES END OF 2015/16:

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Wellington PHOENIX (+4+3+3)

Fixed

More like this

Not offically yet, unless you work for Fairfax?

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 10 years ago

Jag wrote:

Ryan54 wrote:

Jag wrote:

Yawn. Bit touchy there, chaps? Have a cup of tea and relax.

I said "some of our support', but if the cap fits. I think the kind of thing I'm talking about is quite obvious in the quoted posts at the top of this page. Right, you can go back to being defensive now.

Oh, and speculation isn't complaining about signings we've made. It's discussing signings we might make. Just saying.

The problem in this thread is that many posters are making specific posts criticisng specific actions which the club has taken. I have not seen one specific post criticising the signing of Alex Jones, yet you acted as though that was the crux of the discussion. If you have seen specific posts doing so then you should quote them. The problem is that rather than respond to the specific criticisms being made, all the criticisms have just been conflated together. People like Jeff and yourself have said that members are displaying opinions which if you actually read the specific posts you would find that those opinions are not actually held. Basically, it is difficult to have a discussion when the other side has no genuine interest in actually discussing the points you made.

Chopah over the last few pages did an excellent job of responding to el grapadrua. The two had a nuanced conversation where they both made a genuine attempt to understand where the other was coming from. 

As to your point about some of the posts near the top of this page, I do not understand. It seemed you had pressed the this button to those posts.

I "liked" a response to the two fairly negative posts which I referred to. Maybe it's just me who sees a post which starts "Hate to say this but if he was actually any good....." as a negative. My apologies.  Anyway, you lads carry on. 

Hi Jag, clearly this is a dig at me but I stand behind what I said.  

I hope he proves me wrong and does great here at the Nix but my gut instinct says we would have been better off just giving another young Aussie/Kiwi a run around for a couple of months, as that is about all i can honestly see happening here.  

I'm not being negative by the way, just saying it as how I and many others see it.

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What young Aussie or kiwi though?

We have Appiah, Powell, Stevens, Rogerson all young Aussies and Kiwis we are letting run around.  I don't see anyone significantly better than them not already at an A-League club.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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about 10 years ago

Hard News wrote:

What young Aussie or kiwi though?

We have Appiah, Powell, Stephens, Rogerson all young Aussies and Kiwis we are letting run around.  I don't see anyone significantly better than them not already at an A-League club.

David Browne. But he got away.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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about 10 years ago

It's STEVENS ffs

Founder

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about 10 years ago

Feverish wrote:

It's STEPHENS ffs

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People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 10 years ago

Hard News wrote:

What young Aussie or kiwi though?

We have Appiah, Powell, Stevens, Rogerson all young Aussies and Kiwis we are letting run around.  I don't see anyone significantly better than them not already at an A-League club.

De Vries might be an option but from what I've seen of Jones they seem to be quite different types of player so that's not comparing like with like.

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 10 years ago

Jerzy Merino wrote:

Hard News wrote:

What young Aussie or kiwi though?

We have Appiah, Powell, Stephens, Rogerson all young Aussies and Kiwis we are letting run around.  I don't see anyone significantly better than them not already at an A-League club.

David Browne. But he got away.

Was he in the stands last night.

Clayton Lewis.

A fan is a fan.

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about 10 years ago

Jerzy Merino wrote:

Hard News wrote:

What young Aussie or kiwi though?

We have Appiah, Powell, Stephens, Rogerson all young Aussies and Kiwis we are letting run around.  I don't see anyone significantly better than them not already at an A-League club.

David Browne. But he got away.

Import. PNG. Not eligible for NZ. Next.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 10 years ago

I think he could be import quality.

A fan is a fan.

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about 10 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

Jerzy Merino wrote:

Hard News wrote:

What young Aussie or kiwi though?

We have Appiah, Powell, Stephens, Rogerson all young Aussies and Kiwis we are letting run around.  I don't see anyone significantly better than them not already at an A-League club.

David Browne. But he got away.

Import. PNG. Not eligible for NZ. Next.

Just needs dual citizenship to not count as a visa player

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about 10 years ago

Clayton Lewis is the new Clapham... except Clapham can actually play a bit.

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about 10 years ago

A fan is a fan.

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about 10 years ago

For Vuck's Sake saying Kosta is Nix Marquee for 2016-17

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about 10 years ago

Talking to some at the game I'm not the only one who would love him to come home as the Marque.


GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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about 10 years ago

Kosta is a great player, love to have him playing for us.

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