Wellington Phoenix Men

Alex Jones

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about 10 years ago

Hard News wrote:

I don't think the Phoenix are entirely blameless but from what I can gather I'd say about 10% Phoenix and 90% NZ Football.

Either way I suspect Alex may set a record for least minutes by a Phoenix import since Johnny Chen.

Owww I liked Chenny.

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about 10 years ago

RoriM6 wrote:

I know someone already has previously but I'm on my phone so can't search very well. Can we get a list posted up of all the NZF fudge ups. Thinking if flicking a message to sports minister just making my feelings heard. I have never written to a minister before but the incompetence is just mind numbing.

There you go:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c...

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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about 10 years ago · edited about 10 years ago · History

mjp2 wrote:

I think it is time that the Sports Minister (which surely should be in his power) orders an entire review of NZ football. If they can't handle simple paper work then God knows what other mistakes is going on in the background in their little kingdom.

One mistake, fine, two mistakes fine, three ok, four or more then something is fundamentally wrong.

This administration and others are slowly killing NZ football and players of all ages are suffering.

Enough is enough.

First rule of politics.  Never get involved in anything that is sharkEspecially when it is someone else's shark.  And most especially when most of the population does not give a shark

Actually, mjp2, I disagree.  

The Sports Minister does not have to do the review himself, he appoints a retired judge for that. It usually costs between 50K to 200K to do a minor review of a minor organisation, one retired judge and 2-3 junior interns doing the legwork.   

And the outcome is guaranteed to reflect well on a brave minister that puts an end to an incompetent organisation like NZF which is sucking  money not just from the junior player families but also from the taxpayer (just when the NZ committee of America's Cup is crying out for more funding).

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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about 10 years ago

Mainland FC wrote:

RoriM6 wrote:

I know someone already has previously but I'm on my phone so can't search very well. Can we get a list posted up of all the NZF fudge ups. Thinking if flicking a message to sports minister just making my feelings heard. I have never written to a minister before but the incompetence is just mind numbing.

There you go:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c...

Legend

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about 10 years ago

Hard News wrote:

I don't think the Phoenix are entirely blameless but from what I can gather I'd say about 10% Phoenix and 90% NZ Football.

Either way I suspect Alex may set a record for least minutes by a Phoenix import since Johnny Chen.

Ricky Clarke with his two 1 minute cameos
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about 10 years ago

RR wrote:

Hard News wrote:

I don't think the Phoenix are entirely blameless but from what I can gather I'd say about 10% Phoenix and 90% NZ Football.

Either way I suspect Alex may set a record for least minutes by a Phoenix import since Johnny Chen.

Ricky Clarke with his two 1 minute cameos


He was our bench good luck charm though
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about 10 years ago · edited about 10 years ago · History

I'm hearing from a reliable source that the NZF are clearly jealous of the 33 screw ups the FFA have done in the last 2 years and want to get their title off them. 

"How dare those Aussies grab our title for total incompetence, we'll sort that out. Now where in NZ does Spark not have internet coverage? We'll send our man there for a few days, the Phoenix are looking at signing a player."

(Fixed the spelling)

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The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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about 10 years ago

Sham Bulls

E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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about 10 years ago

foal30 wrote:

Sham Bulls

Shame bulls

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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about 10 years ago

RoriM6 wrote:

I know someone already has previously but I'm on my phone so can't search very well. Can we get a list posted up of all the NZF fudge ups. Thinking if flicking a message to sports minister just making my feelings heard. I have never written to a minister before but the incompetence is just mind numbing.

No one has written a comprehensive history of NZ Football yet so no you can't :-)

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about 10 years ago

Hard News wrote:

I don't think the Phoenix are entirely blameless but from what I can gather I'd say about 10% Phoenix and 90% NZ Football.

Either way I suspect Alex may set a record for least minutes by a Phoenix import since Johnny Chen.

If I'd emailed a last minute job application to a business when they're closed on a Saturday and it's a long weekend in that city with the only possible time for them to process my application being Tuesday before the cut-off point, I'd be phoning and emailing that business on the Tuesday to make sure they received my application.

So, it seems to be a joint clusterfudge between David Dome and NZF.

Leaving this transfer application so late on an Auckland long holiday weekend was always going to carry risks.

Numerous transfer applications over the years haven't gone through in Europe because they were left too late and the paperwork wasn't sorted.

Unfortunately, I can't see Jones playing for the Nix this season....

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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about 10 years ago

Oh well, the Phoenix have signed Hamish Watson who, like Jones has played four games for Grimsby Town.

One of those funny coincidences.

He didn't exactly se the A-League on fire in his last spell but has looked good in the ASB this season.

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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about 10 years ago

Auckland has a holiday and the whole world has to wait.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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about 10 years ago

Big Pete 65 wrote:

Oh well, the Phoenix have signed Hamish Watson who, like Jones has played four games for Grimsby Town.

It's grim.

A fan is a fan.

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about 10 years ago

Something fishy about Grimsby ?

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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about 10 years ago

I miss the days when our only worry was that we were sharke.

a.haak

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about 10 years ago

Big Pete 65 wrote:

Hard News wrote:

I don't think the Phoenix are entirely blameless but from what I can gather I'd say about 10% Phoenix and 90% NZ Football.

Either way I suspect Alex may set a record for least minutes by a Phoenix import since Johnny Chen.

If I'd emailed a last minute job application to a business when they're closed on a Saturday and it's a long weekend in that city with the only possible time for them to process my application being Tuesday before the cut-off point, I'd be phoning and emailing that business on the Tuesday to make sure they received my application.

So, it seems to be a joint clusterfudge between David Dome and NZF.

Leaving this transfer application so late on an Auckland long holiday weekend was always going to carry risks.

Numerous transfer applications over the years haven't gone through in Europe because they were left too late and the paperwork wasn't sorted.

Unfortunately, I can't see Jones playing for the Nix this season....

Jesus Christ the transfers in Europe are going through at 11.58pm on the deadline day, but a whole fudgeing working day is too much for our precious lot...

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about 10 years ago

el grapadura wrote:

Big Pete 65 wrote:

Hard News wrote:

I don't think the Phoenix are entirely blameless but from what I can gather I'd say about 10% Phoenix and 90% NZ Football.

Either way I suspect Alex may set a record for least minutes by a Phoenix import since Johnny Chen.

If I'd emailed a last minute job application to a business when they're closed on a Saturday and it's a long weekend in that city with the only possible time for them to process my application being Tuesday before the cut-off point, I'd be phoning and emailing that business on the Tuesday to make sure they received my application.

So, it seems to be a joint clusterfudge between David Dome and NZF.

Leaving this transfer application so late on an Auckland long holiday weekend was always going to carry risks.

Numerous transfer applications over the years haven't gone through in Europe because they were left too late and the paperwork wasn't sorted.

Unfortunately, I can't see Jones playing for the Nix this season....

Jesus Christ the transfers in Europe are going through at 11.58pm on the deadline day, but a whole fudgeing working day is too much for our precious lot...

Hudson was right, not only some of the players are lazy...the fish stinks from the head.

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about 10 years ago

el grapadura wrote:

Big Pete 65 wrote:

Hard News wrote:

I don't think the Phoenix are entirely blameless but from what I can gather I'd say about 10% Phoenix and 90% NZ Football.

Either way I suspect Alex may set a record for least minutes by a Phoenix import since Johnny Chen.

If I'd emailed a last minute job application to a business when they're closed on a Saturday and it's a long weekend in that city with the only possible time for them to process my application being Tuesday before the cut-off point, I'd be phoning and emailing that business on the Tuesday to make sure they received my application.

So, it seems to be a joint clusterfudge between David Dome and NZF.

Leaving this transfer application so late on an Auckland long holiday weekend was always going to carry risks.

Numerous transfer applications over the years haven't gone through in Europe because they were left too late and the paperwork wasn't sorted.

Unfortunately, I can't see Jones playing for the Nix this season....

Jesus Christ the transfers in Europe are going through at 11.58pm on the deadline day, but a whole fudgeing working day is too much for our precious lot...

It is literally a minute job too.

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about 10 years ago · edited about 10 years ago · History

I am reminded and encouraged [more on encouraged latter] of when I was living in Whangeri and working along with a few others on the building of the Marsden Point Petro Chemical Refinery [1982 to 1986].. anyway the port authorises got the Crane on the dock wrong and this massive bit of equipment as it was being lifted out of a ship from Holland ... the crane broke its anchors and both the crane and the equipment  and half the dock went to the bottom  hitting the ship on the way and putting a hole in it... Boy did the blame game start....

Any old how how this is encouraging the current and depth of water off the dock at Marsden Point is quite something and maybe a tour could be arranged then a small accidental shoulder in the back and let the seas have their way... 

Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei

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about 10 years ago

Any chance he could turn out for the reserve team to get a bit of game time tomorrow? Dunno how the lack of paper work will effect this

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about 10 years ago

Here's what gets me:

My job is to handle international transfers

The deadline for that window closing is in 3 days

It's a weekend and a public holiday for that period of time

I won't be at my desk to do my job on the day I get back....

"boss, can you delegate someone to keep an eye on this for me on Tuesday please?"

no internet coverage is a piss weak excuse when you can get a landline, ring the office and tell someone to check. 

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 10 years ago

Or

-My job is to handle international transfers

The deadline for that window closing is in 3 days

It's a weekend and an Auckland public holiday for some part of that time, but things happen right up to the deadline

I  will stay at my desk, catch up on emails, listen to spotify, cruise all the football sites to see what might be happening

Go home late at the end of Tuesday knowing I was there if needed, cause thats my job

or "boss, can you delegate someone to keep an eye on this for me on Tuesday please?"

Job done-

But not done in this case. 

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about 10 years ago

Jeff & Hep, you guys are so spot on. Deadline date day after tomorrow, so let's go away for a long weekend. Un-fudgeen-believable! NZF employee who thought this one up and did it is my nomination for the "complete cock of the year" award.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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about 10 years ago

The major difference between Europe and NZ is that the football authorities in Europe expect numerous transfer requests from hundreds of professional clubs on deadline day.

So they have staff ready for it.

In NZ this was the only transfer request on deadline day - and something that is extremely rare.

Maybe they've never dealt with (or very, very rarely dealt with) transfer requests on A-League deadline day.

Lets face it, the Phoenix are the only professional club in NZ, the only local club in the A-League.

Transfer deadline day quite understandably simply wasn't on NZF's  radar.

Though of course it should have been just in case.

It seems the Phoenix never notified NZF at all that they were intending to sign a player (apart from sending an email on a holiday weekend).

If I was the Phoenix CEO or whoever was in charge of the transfer, I would have followed it up with NZF by telephone and email.

After all, this is NZ and people are often slack.

Especially NZF - who have always been this way since Adam was a baby.

The guy in charge of transfers wasn't in the office Tuesday - what you expect in NZ.

But getting through to someone in an organization is usually easy in a small country like NZ.

I've phoned NZF in the past with business and the then CEO Michael Glading personally phoned me back.

Football is nearly entirely an amateur sport still in this country, with amateur standards in administration.

The Phoenix are the only professional club and to survive in the A-League have had to achieve professional administrative standards.

Some onus was on the Phoenix to chase the transfer up on the Tuesday to make sure NZF had ticked it off I believe.

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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about 10 years ago

Some Onus might have been on the Nix but some Anus at NZF should have been awake to it.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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about 10 years ago

so, no more Alex Jones? Or....?

Adelaide's resident Nix supporter
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about 10 years ago

Has he tweeted that he is back home yet?

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about 10 years ago

So what is actually going on with this. Everyone other than this site has gone way too quiet for my liking.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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about 10 years ago

The Phoenix / NZF joint statement was that there was going to be no more press release until FIFA gets back to them, obviously FIFA hasn't gotten back yet.

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about 10 years ago

Hudson was the the nix game last weekend so I would of thought that this issue would of been sorted within the given deadline? Which wasn't

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There's no way he will play for us before the next window unless he's released by his club.

FIFA would never allow this, otherwise many will use it as a precedent to get around the deadline when they need to e.g. De Gea's failed transfer to Real Madrid.

What I'm more interested in is a proper explanation of exactly what happened here, and who is mainly at fault. The hypothetical scenarios, assumptions, and crazed blaming going on around here is ridiculous. 

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about 10 years ago

paulm wrote:

There's no way he will play for us before the next window unless he's released by his club.

FIFA would never allow this, otherwise many will use it as a precedent to get around the deadline when they need to e.g. De Gea's failed transfer to Real Madrid.

What I'm more interested in is a proper explanation of exactly what happened here, and who is mainly at fault. The hypothetical scenarios, assumptions, and crazed blaming going on around here is ridiculous. 

yes, the only chance we have is that every other party had completed there part and the data from nz was entered into the system but not signed off.
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about 10 years ago

NZF are the ones at fault. It is their job to clear the international transfers and they didn't.

You can argue that the Nix should have followed up, and they definitely should have done that. But it's not their fault that NZF are incompetent. It's not the Nix's job to make sure NZF do theirs.


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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about 10 years ago

After venting my anger here I had an early pre-game craftie and decided to chill.

If FFA, a professional football governing body in Australia, screws up repeatedly and blatantly, we may need to cut some slack to the amateur football governing body in New Zealand.  Sure I would prefer neither of them screwed up ever.

I would still like NZF and the Nix to come clean on this debacle once everything is finalised (either way).

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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about 10 years ago

Midfielder wrote:

I am reminded and encouraged [more on encouraged latter] of when I was living in Whangeri and working along with a few others on the building of the Marsden Point Petro Chemical Refinery [1982 to 1986].. anyway the port authorises got the Crane on the dock wrong and this massive bit of equipment as it was being lifted out of a ship from Holland ... the crane broke its anchors and both the crane and the equipment  and half the dock went to the bottom  hitting the ship on the way and putting a hole in it... Boy did the blame game start....

Any old how how this is encouraging the current and depth of water off the dock at Marsden Point is quite something and maybe a tour could be arranged then a small accidental shoulder in the back and let the seas have their way... 

Anyone else puzzled by this? 


Allegedly

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about 10 years ago

Mainland FC wrote:

After venting my anger here I had an early pre-game craftie and decided to chill.

If FFA, a professional football governing body in Australia, screws up repeatedly and blatantly, we may need to cut some slack to the amateur football governing body in New Zealand.  Sure I would prefer neither of them screwed up ever.

I would still like NZF and the Nix to come clean on this debacle once everything is finalised (either way).

NZF are far from amateur. They get paid very well to screw basic tasks up. 


Allegedly

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about 10 years ago

Tegal wrote:

Midfielder wrote:

I am reminded and encouraged [more on encouraged latter] of when I was living in Whangeri and working along with a few others on the building of the Marsden Point Petro Chemical Refinery [1982 to 1986].. anyway the port authorises got the Crane on the dock wrong and this massive bit of equipment as it was being lifted out of a ship from Holland ... the crane broke its anchors and both the crane and the equipment  and half the dock went to the bottom  hitting the ship on the way and putting a hole in it... Boy did the blame game start....

Any old how how this is encouraging the current and depth of water off the dock at Marsden Point is quite something and maybe a tour could be arranged then a small accidental shoulder in the back and let the seas have their way... 

Anyone else puzzled by this? 

Send NZF down the gurgler.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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about 10 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

NZF are the ones at fault. It is their job to clear the international transfers and they didn't.

You can argue that the Nix should have followed up, and they definitely should have done that. But it's not their fault that NZF are incompetent. It's not the Nix's job to make sure NZF do theirs.

Well it is really, the Nix are a business that needs to survive and any of us that deal with other firms know that we have to chase people up.

The Nix knew that they are dealing with a bunch of lazy fudgewits in the NZF who I think would like to keep football in this country as parochial as possible.

I'm guessing that folk at the NZF are paid not just well meaning amateurs?  Well they should be ashamed at themselves I'm guessing they didn't have too much work on during the christmas break so didn't check their emails.

Anyone with a bit of self respect would resign but I doubt they will as they are on a good thing. 

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about 10 years ago

Due diligence is all we are asking for

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