Valeo/JD, I think the no heart commetn is really a reflection of the ffort the lads put into a game. There has been a huge difference in effort and fight in many of our games. The losses v Perth - clearly in these two games the lads were dissinterested and not playing their best = no heart. The last game v adelaide, they all came out fighting and never backed down = hepas of heart. This apparent lack of effort may be down to Ricki's cautious tactics, but I also think it is an attitude thing within the players.