Angst please.

I am enjoying the A-League as a whole a lot more this year. There are some pretty exciting players.

Some interesting stuff here with regard to NZ cricket

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/special-report-the-shame-game/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503307&objectid=10851500

The one thing that seems similar  to our situation is the phrase "disengagement".  Maybe that describes a bit of what is going on, when you only speak about the team in negative terms it is easier to become disengaged from their results.  Just need a couple more good news stories, hopefully beginning on Sunday

Wasn't trying to be angsty, but I realised I was getting a bit off topic in the match thread.

Can someone tell me why 5000 (more with mods and improvements) at Newtown park wouldn't be better than 6000 at the stadium?
It's no further for most people. 
It is square(-ish) like a god-damn football pitch should be.
It's strongly associated with football for most Wellingtonians.
It would feel grassroots.
It doesn't have a concourse.
It would have incredible atmosphere. Imagine being the opposition coming to Newtown. It would be like a Colosseum with 
It would be a great building block. 
It would surely break-even (or does the lack of corporate boxes make it impossible? Could they turn the side of N P 2 into corporate boxes)
I can just imagine more people wanting to go (atmosphere, fomo, underground-y coolness), big games could be played at westpac. Eventually we'd move back.

It obviously would need a lot of work, parking, Better changing rooms, food and drink stalls etc. 
I genuinely would like to know why it can't be done, I'm sure there are great reasons, I just wish we could hear it.
Are the improvements too expensive? Are they tied in to a contract at Westpac? Is the number of people at the stadium more important than a sustainable business model? Would the risk of getting 3000 on a shit day be too embarrassing? Is the running track too wide or too important? 
Also, who else would like to see it done?

The main draw at e stadium is public transport. People are not going to go out to the end of Newtown to watch the Phoenix. It IS  further for most people. 

I sort of feel like we are getting right into the season now. People are starting to post about Newtown Park and a purpose built stadium.

Quite comforting to know that these things crop up every season without fail (along with the travelling Nix circus).

So, *scuffs shoe*, no one here would be just a teensie bit interested to see how we fare with a different coach? PLEASE DON'T HURT MEEEEEEE 

Well I knew someone would be an asshole and shoot down the discussion. I guess this has come up a lot before, I just haven't been around to see it. I did put it in Angst for a reason.
5000 people in a stadium for 36,000 puts people off ever wanting to go. Trust me, I've had a lot of people say that to me. Even 10000 doesn't look that good when you have everyone spread out. The whole side behind the camera should be shut off at least.

I kinda forgot about the train station as well.

Wouldn't it be nice if the basin was for all cricket games, and Westpac was square? Not personally fussed about having a roof, I like the weather.

Well I knew someone would be an asshole and shoot down the discussion. I guess this has come up a lot before, I just haven't been around to see it. I did put it in Angst for a reason.
5000 people in a stadium for 36,000 puts people off ever wanting to go. Trust me, I've had a lot of people say that to me. Even 10000 doesn't look that good when you have everyone spread out. The whole side behind the camera should be shut off at least.

I kinda forgot about the train station as well.

Wouldn't it be nice if the basin was for all cricket games, and Westpac was square? Not personally fussed about having a roof, I like the weather.

 I like the weather.

So, *scuffs shoe*, no one here would be just a teensie bit interested to see how we fare with a different coach? PLEASE DON'T HURT MEEEEEEE 

Well I knew someone would be an asshole and shoot down the discussion. I guess this has come up a lot before, I just haven't been around to see it. I did put it in Angst for a reason.
5000 people in a stadium for 36,000 puts people off ever wanting to go. Trust me, I've had a lot of people say that to me. Even 10000 doesn't look that good when you have everyone spread out. The whole side behind the camera should be shut off at least.

I kinda forgot about the train station as well.

Wouldn't it be nice if the basin was for all cricket games, and Westpac was square? Not personally fussed about having a roof, I like the weather.

So, *scuffs shoe*, no one here would be just a teensie bit interested to see how we fare with a different coach? PLEASE DON'T HURT MEEEEEEE 

Um, Why does my (what i thought to be) reasonable answer make me an asshole? 

Unless you are a Yank, the correct terminology is arsehole.

An asshole is a big pit full of hybrid donkeys.

No - you're probably thinking of "ring piece".  It's quite easy to get these two muddled up.

No the "Ring Piece" is the the distal orifice of the alimentary canal....totally different

No ! Strawberry Studios was in Stockport ....plenty of good music came out of there !!

Easy - not quite a fair weather supporter, inaugural season member, and only missed three home games, but the extra dudes I try to get along want a decent day, you guys creating good crack and some entertaining footy.  If it's an exciting game and if we draw or lose narrowly playing good footy, with plenty of oohs and aahs and near things, well they don't mind.  So long as we win our fair share and there's spirited endeavour and a level of skill they can admire.  They don't want to be going along to support a bunch of losers and a boring team.  So the poor away game results hurt when I try to round up a few more and the first comment is often, didn't they just loose two/three on a trot?  
We've had Daniel, Caceres, Dadi providing some creativity, colour and flair.  Back in the day Ifill was quick enough and exciting and Leo could be dashing. Then we had Rojas for a bit.  Fenton's diving header excited, but our current lot are tradesmen, or playing like it. Right now Ifill is a lesser self and Brockie is the ghost who walks, pops up when he needs to and is a good acquisition, but does not stamp himself on a game.  Stein is tidy quality, but not exactly an excitement machine and no-one is playing off him.  That's how I'm seeing it.  But ...

Having said that, the team has shown flashes of an entertaining creative interpassing game.  We have had our first decent offseason recruitment and we've still got a new front third coming together.  If they can turn on more of the 20 and 30 mins of real quality entertaining attacking footy we've seen in a couple of games and if the absolute crap weather turns to a bit of sun, I think you'll see the crowds back up a fair bit.  I mean the weather for those two games was pretty atrocious for getting out a big crowd.

Sun, fun and good footy. 

Not sure he's really correct in saying that back in England people look out the window at the weather and decide if they are going or not...