Terry, get this guy on the phone pronto...
Graeme Hart's wealth up $200m in a year, says Forbes
*pop*
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
Permalink
Permalink
[QUOTE=George Kostanza]
Also fairly strong rumours that he has a buyerr for Carter Holt Harvey, so will have plenty of Liquid Assets. Alas however he is not frivolous with his dosh!
Terry, get this guy on the phone pronto...
Graeme Hart's wealth up $200m in a year, says Forbes
[/QUOTE
Also fairly strong rumours that he has a buyerr for Carter Holt Harvey, so will have plenty of Liquid Assets. Alas however he is not frivolous with his dosh!
Permalink
Permalink
News media are talking about WGA as an American financier. When did that happen?
Permalink
Permalink
They, apparently, have an office in the US. I don't know what to believe now.
Permalink
Permalink
Closer and more detailed reading of the wikifrauds.net website indicates that Ali Syed has a whole phalanx of lawyers, accountants, PR men etc, from all across the civilised world, who are (if it is a scam) either dupes or accomplices. This account is beginning to resemble a conspiracy theory. (If Ali Syed has no money, how does he pay all those guys?)
Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads
Permalink
Permalink
I don't believe the IRD have been sucked in by the scam for a moment. I think they must have been convinced that Plan B is a goer.
I'm with you, I don't think IRD are easily fooled and neither are they easily swayed by sentiment. I tend to think there is a very good chance Terry has saved himself, the Nix and ourselves.
Permalink
Permalink
News media are talking about WGA as an American financier. When did that happen?
Think people get confused because the loan amount discussed was in USD.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
Permalink
Permalink
As I say, all Ali Syed or Terry would have to do is to provide one (1) verifiable testimony from someone who actually got their loan monies, and I would breathe easy.
Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads
Permalink
Permalink
If Ali Syed has no money, how does he pay all those guys?
No one said Syed had no money- he appears to have taken around $50m in advance fees.
People have said he has no ability to settle out loans, which is quite another matter altogether.
This is not an email spam-shot operation- it's quite a bit more sophisticated, and expensive to run.
Permalink
Permalink
If Ali Syed has no money, how does he pay all those guys?
No one said Syed had no money- he appears to have taken around $50m in advance fees.
People have said he has no ability to settle out loans, which is quite another matter altogether.
This is not an email spam-shot operation- it's quite a bit more sophisticated, and expensive to run.
Disclaimer: No Nigerians have been harmed in the making of this fiasco.
Permalink
Permalink
If application fees for WGA loans were non-refundable, with no guarantee of acceptance, then the applicants (including Terry) wouldn't have a leg to stand on. Be interesting to see what WGA actually offers.RedGed2011-03-10 16:28:49
Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!
Permalink
Permalink
There appears to have been two separate fees mentioned. A $50k ish 'application fee' for consideration of the loan, and then a 1.5% up front Loan arrangement fee just prior to loan furfillment.
Permalink
Permalink
Im pretty sure someone or a group of people have been after Terry all this time..Using the media as a tool to discredit him and convince people that he is basically a crook which may be completely false. By discrediting him it makes it easier for them to take him down.... Dont underestimate the power of the media.
Hopefully terry pulls through
Permalink
Permalink
Using the media as a tool to discredit him and convince people that he is basically a crook which may be completely false.[/QUOTE]
It's interesting, isn't it? You know that Nipples/the NBR want to paint Terry as a crook, but the upshot of the current fooferaw is to paint Terry as the victim of a crook, which might garner a sympathy vote.
As of now, I believe that Terry will get the money from somewhere, on the sole basis that the IRD are neither stupid nor gullible nor soft-hearted.
ETA:
[quote=the Herald]
The Inland Revenue Department appears more confident that Wellington property and football tycoon Terry Serepisos will be able to pay his debts...
As a backstop, Mr Serepisos has offered properties in Wellington and Roseneath as security for payment of the tax debt....
...today the court was assured by IRD lawyer Rocky Meng that some progress had been made.
"The Commissioner is saying he now has increased confidence the loan can be put in place in four weeks to pay all the debts."
Doloras2011-03-10 17:50:54It's interesting, isn't it? You know that Nipples/the NBR want to paint Terry as a crook, but the upshot of the current fooferaw is to paint Terry as the victim of a crook, which might garner a sympathy vote.
As of now, I believe that Terry will get the money from somewhere, on the sole basis that the IRD are neither stupid nor gullible nor soft-hearted.
ETA:
[quote=the Herald]
The Inland Revenue Department appears more confident that Wellington property and football tycoon Terry Serepisos will be able to pay his debts...
As a backstop, Mr Serepisos has offered properties in Wellington and Roseneath as security for payment of the tax debt....
...today the court was assured by IRD lawyer Rocky Meng that some progress had been made.
"The Commissioner is saying he now has increased confidence the loan can be put in place in four weeks to pay all the debts."
Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads
Permalink
Permalink
Im pretty sure someone or a group of people have been after Terry all this time..Using the media as a tool to discredit him and convince people that he is basically a crook which may be completely false. By discrediting him it makes it easier for them to take him down.... Dont underestimate the power of the media.
Hopefully terry pulls through
I saw that movie - Matt Damon played him in "The Serepisos Conspiracy".
Permalink
Permalink
How long is the deal with Sony, Wellington Beds and other sponsors? Im worried if we still have a club come 18th of April that the damage has been done and it will be hard to attract new ones if the others don't renew their contracts.
Permalink
Permalink
No, if I wanted flirtatious posts, I wouldn't have searched for a picture of Eliza Dushku fully clothed.
Why, what do you normally wear when you're searching for a picture of Eliza Dushku?
Well played indeed. (The answer to the question is for me to know and certain forumites to imagine for about ten minutes before they go to sleep.)
Permalink
Permalink
Conspiracy is just a word used to discredit ideas that may be completely true. Conspiracies happen buddy. All the time. Think for yourself.
Permalink
Permalink
Conspiracy is just a word used to discredit ideas that may be completely true. Conspiracies happen buddy. All the time. Think for yourself.
NIPPERT DID 9/11 !!! WGA WAS AN INSIDE JOB !!! WAKE UP SHEEPLE !!!
Doloras2011-03-10 18:33:56
Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads
Permalink
Permalink
Conspiracy is just a word used to discredit ideas that may be completely true. Conspiracies happen buddy. All the time. Think for yourself.
Permalink
Permalink
Conspiracy is just a word used to discredit ideas that may be completely true. Conspiracies happen buddy. All the time. Think for yourself.
Buddy? Who, in this country, calls people 'Buddy' (apart from you)?
You've been watching too many American movies. 
Permalink
Permalink
A few more juicy details have been added to this Herald story:
IRD more confident Serepisos will pay
Lawyer receives phone call!
Sensitive files to be sealed forever!
Horse escapes from courtroom!
IRD more confident Serepisos will pay
Lawyer receives phone call!
Sensitive files to be sealed forever!
Horse escapes from courtroom!
Permalink
Permalink
Conspiracy is just a word used to discredit ideas that may be completely true. Conspiracies happen buddy. All the time. Think for yourself.
Buddy? Who, in this country, calls people 'Buddy' (apart from you)?
�
You've been watching too many American movies.
�
Too right cobber!
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
Permalink
Permalink
Awesome! Google "Matt Nippert" and click images. Success!!
Permalink
Permalink
Awesome! Google "Matt Nippert" and click images. Success!!
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
Permalink
Permalink
Almost as funny is: "Matt Nippert is the worst writer of his generation."
Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads
Permalink
Permalink
I think we all know that Terry practices alchemy.
We will never fully decide who has won the football.
Permalink
Permalink
Awesome! Google "Matt Nippert" and click images. Success!!
Outstanding.
Permalink
Permalink
I really don't know how the f**k to take this development:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/4755260/Phoenix-deal-imminent-as-Serepisos-buys-time
Makes it sound like Sony is not in the frame for major sponsor, at least.
Oh, and the new major sponsor will be WGA. For 5 years. and the IRD think there is a chance of payment.
I'm going to just lie under a railway bridge for a while and see what happens...
My major theory is that Syed is planning to move to Welly and hide out as BlanketMan.
zonknz2011-03-11 06:51:14
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/4755260/Phoenix-deal-imminent-as-Serepisos-buys-time
Makes it sound like Sony is not in the frame for major sponsor, at least.
Oh, and the new major sponsor will be WGA. For 5 years. and the IRD think there is a chance of payment.
I'm going to just lie under a railway bridge for a while and see what happens...
My major theory is that Syed is planning to move to Welly and hide out as BlanketMan.
zonknz2011-03-11 06:51:14
Permalink
Permalink
I really don't know how the f**k to take this development:http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/4755260/Phoenix-deal-imminent-as-Serepisos-buys-timeMakes it sound like Sony is not in the frame for major sponsor, at least.Oh, and the new major sponsor will be WGA. For 5 years. and the IRD think there is a chance of payment.I'm going to just lie under a railway bridge for a while and see what happens...My major theory is that Syed is planning to move to Welly and hide out as BlanketMan.
This is great news, pure and simple.
The IRD wouldn't be backing off without good reason. Get out from under your railway bridge, and bring out the the fever Friday. End the angst, and bring out the love for uncle Terry - the bestest Greek businessman in the land. Nippert can go suck eggs!
Lets look forward to the rest of the off season, and move to the transfer speculation thread to muse over the implausibly good players we can now link with the club for 2011/12. I heard that Mesi chap isn't too bad.
Right... back to lurking.
Permalink
Permalink
I want to believe....but until the money is actually here I'm still pretty sceptical.
Permalink
Permalink
Hey, all the media suggests that Syed does dodgy loans, I've never heard of him doing a dodgy sponsorship deal.
(Of course, if wikifrauds.net is right, then what will happen is: Terry will announce a major sponsorship deal, Ali Syed will pay 5% of what he promises as a token of good faith, then disappear in a puff of logic and a lot of people will be very embarrassed.)
(Of course, if wikifrauds.net is right, then what will happen is: Terry will announce a major sponsorship deal, Ali Syed will pay 5% of what he promises as a token of good faith, then disappear in a puff of logic and a lot of people will be very embarrassed.)
Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads
Permalink
Permalink
Should point out that the Guardian & Indie & Telegraph in the UK had an article yesterday about the premiere league investigators ruling Syed was dodgy and was not be allowed to buy Blackburn.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/mar/09/premier-league-clubs-detectives
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/mar/09/premier-league-clubs-detectives
Permalink
Permalink
I want to believe....but until the money is actually here I'm still pretty sceptical.
+1
I'm not sure if it feel better or worse this morning.
Permalink
Permalink
I've reverted to my initial stance - I'm skeptical, but I will trust the IRD's and Terry's judgement until April 18.
Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads
Permalink
Permalink
NBR have an article that suggests from title alone the IRD are happier.
Permalink
Permalink
Newstalk ZB are reporting that the Christchurch earthquake means IRD no longer have the resources available to liquidate and their preference is now to wait for the money.
Matt Nippert has also gone very quiet on Twitter recently. He was tweeting up a storm about Terry and WGA between 1 March and 7 March, but nothing since then. A good sign that Nippleface has nothing to gloat about at the moment?
Permalink
Permalink
Someone else already suggested that the big cut in interest rates might have given Terry some breathing space. Perhaps now he can afford a loan from an actual lender in this country?
But hold on, the Christchurch earthquake happened weeks ago and the IRD still seemed keen to liquidate Terry on Monday.Doloras2011-03-11 10:11:22
But hold on, the Christchurch earthquake happened weeks ago and the IRD still seemed keen to liquidate Terry on Monday.Doloras2011-03-11 10:11:22
Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads
Permalink
Permalink