Wellington Phoenix Men

Australia Cup vs Heidelberg United | Tue 19th Aug | 9:30pm | YouTube

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7 months ago
Why does Nagasawa still have the armband?
7 months ago
20 Legend
Phoenix are at rock bottom and the owners are hoping that by doing absolutely nothing it's going to magically get better.

Oof.
 The problem is they did nothing to counter AFC joining. Tonight is an embarrassment and Dome should go.
7 months ago
The owners have written off this season, I think we can as well.
7 months ago
Nixieboys222
Hate to be so negative early, but eze looks shark… got beaten twice,poor first touch, oh boy
I did mention he looked like Sasse when he first signed when you compared the highlights. Everyone here seemed fairly enthralled by the highlights though - or at least a little too hopeful. I haven't seen anything to prove me wrong just yet.

Give him a chance though and all that I guess. I thought Sasse had buckets of potential but never quite found it in the ALeague. Hoping Eze will be different
7 months ago
Nixieboys222
Hate to be so negative early, but eze looks shark… got beaten twice,poor first touch, oh boy

Unlike others here, I've not had on Rose tinted glasses with this dude. I think he's a dud and only time will prove if I'm wrong.
Supporter world's best and worst football teams: Waikato/WaiBop, Kingz, Knights, Phoenix, The Argyle, The Whites & the All Whites

7 months ago
Lachyloolaa
Wish we had just lost to Brisbane. Save us the embarrassment
Would have been the best result to just lose on pens in Perth. At least there would be a bit of positivity in that.
7 months ago
Good point by Harper on the disjointed pre-season excuse.. "I'm not buying that argument, it's the longest off season in world football"
7 months ago
the commentator said Chiefy stated that A-League teams shouldn't be losing these. not sure how accurate but oof.
7 months ago
seen a few chipped speculator passes today. is that symptomatic of there being no real plan or openings up top?

360footballnews.com

7 months ago
anaveragestem
Nixieboys222
Hate to be so negative early, but eze looks shark… got beaten twice,poor first touch, oh boy
I did mention he looked like Sasse when he first signed when you compared the highlights. Everyone here seemed fairly enthralled by the highlights though - or at least a little too hopeful. I haven't seen anything to prove me wrong just yet.

Give him a chance though and all that I guess. I thought Sasse had buckets of potential but never quite found it in the ALeague. Hoping Eze will be different
Always the kicker with highlights. They never show the lowlights
7 months ago
Nommag
The owners have written off this season, I think we can as well.
And then what?
7 months ago
Hard to see Twose or Astle or even Danny Morrison in shades saving anything from this. 
Depressing. 
Chief needed a sub at least at half. 

That’s any positives of the cup run flushed. Should have come out swinging with our best team. Now we put our pre-season new transfers up against a very confident team and everyone got squashed.

Phhhh.



7 months ago · edited 7 months ago · History
Management have written of the men’s team and put all their eggs into the ladies team this year in a last ditch attempt to justify their jobs. 



Auckland will rise once more

7 months ago
4-0 is not a fitness difference, it's an unacceptable result. Been coached off the park by superior game plan and mentality by semi pros with real jobs.

There is no world in which a pro footballer will be happy with Chiefy as a coach, he will lose the room fast. 
7 months ago · edited 7 months ago · History
This is our third competitive match. No excuse for preseason jitters now.

Chelfy and Dome OUT.

Edit:
And replace Chiefy with Heidelberg's coach.
Supporter world's best and worst football teams: Waikato/WaiBop, Kingz, Knights, Phoenix, The Argyle, The Whites & the All Whites

7 months ago
Here's a question for everyone:

1. If Heidelberg played WSW another 10 times, how many would you bet on WSW winning?
2. What about if they played Nix another 10 times?
7 months ago
This would be like us losing to Auckland United or Olympic.
Marto
This is our third competitive match. No excuse for preseason jitters now.

Chelfy and Dome OUT.
 
7 months ago
This is the biggest result for a npl side vs a league team, and we have now lost to 4 npl teams in the cup, most by any team. Historically bad
7 months ago · edited 7 months ago · History
I want to see a venomous strike from someone in our team. See the goal and smash it low and hard and with a bit of anger and desire to score. 


7 months ago
AucklandPhoenix
Management have written of the men’s team and put all their eggs into the ladies team this year in a last ditch attempt to justify their jobs. 


 Though to be fair if the Wahinix can win the league and pack out the stadium while doing so, I'll probably forgive them, at least for a season. 
7 months ago · edited 7 months ago · History
Their is a reason why Kosta didn't re-sign and looking at all the NZ Super Rugby teams will give you the answer.
Monto
4-0 is not a fitness difference, it's an unacceptable result. Been coached off the park by superior game plan and mentality by semi pros with real jobs.

There is no world in which a pro footballer will be happy with Chiefy as a coach, he will lose the room fast. 
7 months ago
Nixieboys222
This is the biggest result for a npl side vs a league team, and we have now lost to 4 npl teams in the cup, most by any team. Historically bad

Almost as bad as our record in finals.
7 months ago
We went over 40 minutes without a single shot, and we're almost at the full 90 and we've had just one on target. I don't care that we're in pre-season and Heidelberg are an experienced and well oiled unit. This is our 4th match in the past month, and we've had 6 weeks of training. If we're not in the bottom 2 or 3 this season I will be amazed. Remember when losing 1-0 to bentleigh greens or to the Strikers on pens was embarrassing?

We were doomed as soon as we figured out we weren't going to be able to dump the imports. Nagasawa and Ishige are painfully average. 
Annual finals disappointment enthusiast.

7 months ago
Not sure who was more shark: The ref or the Nix. Both poor and both A League fixtures.
Supporter world's best and worst football teams: Waikato/WaiBop, Kingz, Knights, Phoenix, The Argyle, The Whites & the All Whites

7 months ago
Marto
This is our third competitive match. No excuse for preseason jitters now.

Chelfy and Dome OUT.

Edit:
And replace Chiefy with Heidelberg's coach.
Ive seen 2 comments now asking for this. I agree this is quite awful but do you guys genuinely believe this will happen? Has anyone ever been fired over an Aus cup loss? 

No Aleague team really cares about it until they get to the semis
7 months ago
David is no dumb dumb

Auckland will rise once more

7 months ago
20 Legend
Here's a question for everyone:

1. If Heidelberg played WSW another 10 times, how many would you bet on WSW winning?
2. What about if they played Nix another 10 times?

Wanderers win 8 or 9. We win 3
7 months ago
  • Embarrassing and sad. A 2-1 loss heck even a 2-0 loss is somewhat digestible. What has improved since last season on this display?. One could put it down to pre season this and motivation that but it’s not a good look for the team. Chiefy should be praying he’ll survive till  mid season
7 months ago
Embarrassing.
(could also be applied to the ref, but that is no excuse. He was a Shocker)

I know, I know, its serious!

7 months ago
How can they expect anyone (even die-hard fans like us) to show up and pay good money to continue to watch us lose like this. 

Only silver lining for me is 30 mins in the first half we looked alright, and LBS had his best game that I've seen. Otherwise, it's all more of the same and nothing to be excited for, for the new season. 
7 months ago
Don’t understand your reasoning?
AucklandPhoenix
Management have written of the men’s team and put all their eggs into the ladies team this year in a last ditch attempt to justify their jobs. 


 
7 months ago
Lachyloolaa
WSW can breathe easy now. Just hope Heidelberg somehow smash the Jafa's
 Heidelberg won't. AFC already have a different mentality unfortunately.
7 months ago
Turfmoore
Embarrassing.
(could also be applied to the ref, but that is no excuse. He was a Shocker)

He’s always like that with us, but 4-0 and hardly a shot. 


7 months ago
Jazzy Jeff
We went over 40 minutes without a single shot, and we're almost at the full 90 and we've had just one on target. I don't care that we're in pre-season and Heidelberg are an experienced and well oiled unit. This is our 4th match in the past month, and we've had 6 weeks of training. If we're not in the bottom 2 or 3 this season I will be amazed. Remember when losing 1-0 to bentleigh greens or to the Strikers on pens was embarrassing?

We were doomed as soon as we figured out we weren't going to be able to dump the imports. Nagasawa and Ishige are painfully average. 

They are an experience and well oiled unit, that also all have full time jobs outside of football. And still made us look like the amateur side.
7 months ago
Surprisimg as he was like that in tue first half even before the OG.. 
hepatitis
Payne needs to step up in his attitude, leadership and fitness if he wants to be considered for the All Whites.
7 months ago
reg22
seen a few chipped speculator passes today. is that symptomatic of there being no real plan or openings up top?

teams do it quite often to bypass the press - don't have to be wedded to playing through all the time. Means teams can't just push up very aggressively. 
7 months ago · edited 7 months ago · History
observerfromuh
There is a reason why Kosta didn't re-sign and looking at all the NZ Super Rugby teams will give you the answer.
Monto
4-0 is not a fitness difference, it's an unacceptable result. Been coached off the park by superior game plan and mentality by semi pros with real jobs.

There is no world in which a pro footballer will be happy with Chiefy as a coach, he will lose the room fast. 
I have no idea what the second part of that means, but I can understand in terms of Kosta not re-signing. I'm sure Chiefy knows his shark, and is probably a great analyst and assistant, but his first season got papered over by what was very accidentally the greatest team in Nix history. Surman and Paulsen. Old and Kraev. Zawada and Kosta. 
7 months ago
observerfromuh
Lachyloolaa
WSW can breathe easy now. Just hope Heidelberg somehow smash the Jafa's
 Heidelberg won't. AFC already have a different mentality unfortunately.
it's also much later and out of season for npl teams and in season for al teams.