Bertos.

How about Daniel on the right with Elrich as support striker then? Wingers that have lost a bit of pace tend to go for that 2nd striker position (Luis Figo's been doing it rather well for Internazionale as has Giggs on occasions) so it might be ideal for Elrich to play a few games there if he has indeed permanently lost some of his pace.

Bertos and Daniel are both pretty flexible so they can play on either wing can't they?
WillyB2007-12-24 00:35:41

How about Daniel on the left, Bertos on the right and Elrich not in our team. 

How about Leo is better than every player in the phoenix team, better than daniel and lochead combined

Horsefeathers mate!

Yes maybe you're onto something there - but I think he'll be better next season.

Lets Buy Noah Hickey,

HES an "aLL sTAr"

I'm not sure if you are serious or joking, HK Keeper, but I think it'd be great to get Noah Hickey provided he can play on the right (I can't remember if he plays left or right).

Lets get Sigmund, Bertos, Leilei Gao, and Alen Marcina. We would have an unstoppable team.

Horus the lads here are having a serious discussion... tho that IS the funniest sh*t that i've heard in a while! Leo would be lucky to even PLAY on the same pitch as these players!

I say we stop wasting our time with this player, this much effort should be more put towards a player who is at least twice as good as leo, snubbing Phoenix just like he first snubbed The All Whites because oneday he wanted to play for greece.

Dont get me wrong tho, he's an ok player but we're talking about him now as if he's pele or something
Addicted2007-12-30 11:23:14

lol and your talking about him as is he's sean divine. Plays don't get the most assists in the league for nothing. saying Leo would be lucky to play on the same pitch as the nix is the joke mate

Leo would get on the pitch before Daniel in my books. and I like Daniel too.

I WAS TAKING THE PISS

for a marquee player elrich hasn't performed. I would rather have bertos any day of the week. him, felipe and daniel would carve

Leo is a valuable attacking midfielder who turns defenders inside out with his pace and delivers quality balls. By far the best ball player at Perth currently, and would fulfill something at the Phoenix we don't currently have. Simple as that.

I'd put Bertos on the right, genuine pace down the flank and unlike elrich he takes on his man. Also Daniel swaps wings often and so to does Bertos, elrich on the left scares me, he can barely cross with his right.

I was basically trying to make a point. I didn't really mean Leo would be lucky to play on the same pitch, but to be honest, half of us here wouldn't even rate him if he wasn't a new zealander and the other half of us wouldn't rate him if he wasn't part greek.


Plus i think in someway that its silly having too many NZ national players in the phoenix team. My reason is because when the ozzy or nz national side plays, the A-League doesn't halt, and in our case at the moment its half our players that get called up PLUS the manager (ricky)... thats far too many player that we end up missing (we dont need anymore).
This may sound like i'm talking sh*t tho everywhere else in the world, when the national team plays, then the nation league has a break.. here it doesnt so we dont need more national players
Addicted2007-12-31 00:18:10

Hopefully that won't be an issue next year...

  Well said.

But I must add - I'm originally from Australia, and I'm of Irish and Italian stock. Yet I still rate Bertos. Not above Lochhead or Daniel, but I definitely feel we'd be better off with him, and I'd swap him for Elrich in a heartbeat.
robbwatson2007-12-31 00:43:46

And with that i would also have to agree with, very well said

He's certainly rated over here, as is Daniel. He might add a bit of pace which could be the key ingredient to add to our mix next season

Being a local boy, I think Leo would play with more pride for the Phoenix than some players might. That counts too.

Looks like Sigmund is going to be the one that Ricki is bringing in to tighted up the 'D'. Would be awesome if Bertos was in the mix too!

yes I was surprised the aussie commentators stated that. Nice to hear something useful out of their mouths.

I'm not so sure that Bertos is the man we want. I think a proven goal scorer is required to partner Smeltz, a finisher and from what I've read and seen Bertos is not that man.

He looked alright against the ordinary Island defences in the recent internationals, but isnt getting through against the top defences in the A league.

Proves my point, thanks

But he did get yet another assist (I hate that phrase and the whole concept of it) last night with that cross. That's his game, he's not a goalscorer. We have those anyway. We do need someone who can beat defenders and cross the ball to one of our heads though. That's Leo's game.

Eh? we've only really got one consistant goal scorer in Smeltz. Elrich, Lochhead, Ferrante, Lia, Felipe etc. mostly just supply.

I think we do need to develop another player who can score consistantly, we have relaied on smeltz very heavily thi season, would be nice if some of the others were able to add a few to the collection.

Ok, I stand corrected Valeo - we have A goalscorer....!!

eh? do u read the rest of the posts here??

point 1. He murdered those island teams, especially in wellington, he ran rings around them and outpaced about 3 at a time. much more than just "alright"

and secondly, give this, he isnt getting through top defences in a-league crap a rest, top assist in the league ?? ffs r u trying to find reasons why we shouldnt have him? bring the man to wellington!

Yes, I read the rest, and I'm saying I'd still rather have a proven goal scorer.

daniel and bertos

the two best players at assists  

I'd rather a goal scoring midfielder who can chip in with a few assists as Smeltz is our only player who has scored on a regular basis really. Bertos would be good but in my mind is not ideal.

On the A-League website it says that Bertos has made only one assist this season, is that wrong?

bertos got the most assists last season and isnt daniel leading this season in assists?