Ernie has gone too far this time. He clearly made a pact with Beelzebub, the Horned One for a Nix win, not being able to get one any other way... and this time the price was Louis' shoulder and collarbone!!!
fixed. the curse of Doloras strikes again!
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
Persevere with the manager is what I've always said.
lol
Ricki wouldve won 4-1
decent article on ernie in SMH
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/ernie-merrick-has-been-reinvigorated-by-move-to-phoenix-20140121-3164e.html
Very nice to see Ernie commenting on Ricki. Mark of a true professional.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/9650495/Ernie-Merrick-It-was-tricky-for-Ricki-Herbert
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
A true professional and a good man who doesn't need to denigrate
others to feel confident in his own skin. The Nix are lucky to have him
and, when the A-League eventually sets up a Hall Of Fame, his name
will be there.
No doubt about it, Ernie is doing the business as coach. And who appointed him and who demanded the club play a more expansive possession based style?.....Welnix did. So a big pat on the back for their vision and also putting their money and their balls on the line. Because they took some serious flack last year and its turned out OK.
No doubt about it, Ernie is doing the business as coach. And who appointed him and who demanded the club play a more expansive possession based style?.....Welnix did. So a big pat on the back for their vision and also putting their money and their balls on the line. Because they took some serious flack last year and its turned out OK.
Grumpy old bastard alert
Really, REALLY good to see Ernie face down the Ricki-haters. I heartily admit that I was wrong to doubt him.
Welcome aboard. There was a spare seat for you getting on eventually.
Grumpy old bastard alert
I think we got Ernie because he didn't have other options, he applied for the Adelaide position and they chose Gombau. I'm very happy that we have him but I doubt we were his first choice.
I don't understand why the MV fans had such a dislike for him considering the success he brought, plus he is pretty fan friendly from what I've seen. They are starting to see what they are missing though.
There were heaps of people on here who were anti when he got the job. Nothing against Ricki, but the team is now playing some good football although I would feel better if we were had 6 points more.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
I don't understand why the MV fans had such a dislike for him considering the success he brought, plus he is pretty fan friendly from what I've seen. They are starting to see what they are missing though.
Ernie has gone too far this time. He clearly made a pact with Beelzebub, the Horned One for a Nix win, not being able to get one any other way... and the price was Iffy's achilles!!!
.....incantations won't help...... but try holy water
Indian friends tell me signing Roy Krishna has been key to the Nix's improvement in fortune. "Krishna" being regarded by many Hindus as the holiest name of God and the "Hare Krishna" mantra one of the most revered. So every time a commentator or supporter says or hears "Krishna" Hindus consider that as bringing great good fortune spiritually and materially.
Doesn't even matter how effective Roy Krishna is as a player, just his name does all the work!!! You can't say that about many players. If he's successful though, he will probably attract media and fan attention in India. I've seen a blog about Indians playing football around the world. They love to pick up on Indians who are successful internationally in all fields, especially sport and the arts.
I've spent time in India and there are whole towns dedicated to Krishna since ancient times such as Vrindavan a few hours from Delhi. One of India's greatest rivers is the Krishna and many towns and places carry the name.
India's most popular scripture, the Bhagavad-gita is spoken by Krishna to his disciple the general Arjuna on the eve of a war:
BHAGAVAD-GITA 18.78:
"Wherever there is Krishna, the master of all mystics, and wherever there is Arjuna, the supreme archer, there will also certainly be opulence, victory, extraordinary power, and morality. That is my opinion."
Big Pete 65, Christchurch
Bumping this to save someone from starting an angsty thread about tonight
Ernie is going to really earn his $$$ for the rest of this season. We just can't keep losing key players...we patched up after Ifills loss, we patched up after Fentons loss. Riera's loss is going to take a miracle to fix
The only thing I can think of is... Manny back to the midfield, and Caira back in defence.
I guess we'll soon find out if Ernie agrees!
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
ERNIE MUST GO!
Not really, but that performance was remarkably bad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
Perhaps a good wake up call to keep the players feet on the ground and not to get ego problems. Having said that, the heart played extremely well and tactically nailed us. Be interesting to see how everyone responds.
It won't help but Arsenal got beat 5-0 by Liverpool and drew soon after against Man U. Hope this is an abberation.
It won't help but Arsenal got beat 5-0 by Liverpool and drew soon after against Man U. Hope this is an abberation.
I think that if any coach could identify in advance when an entire team was going to have a "bad hair day" simultaneously and rectify it, they'd be Fergie cross with Guardiola. No blame to Ernie if the team just didn't get out of bed.
I think that if any coach could identify in advance when an entire team was going to have a "bad hair day" simultaneously and rectify it, they'd be Fergie cross with Guardiola. No blame to Ernie if the team just didn't get out of bed.
Grumpy old bastard alert
... I sometimes have trouble picking sarcasm through a computer screen, but thanks anyway. :)
If we are going to put everything Ernie-related in this thread can we change the title?
The Guardian interview, http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/feb/19/ernie-merrick-wellington-phoenix-interview%20 , is very positive, Angst and Blip free.
I appreciate the need to keep threads down but this interview does not belong in a thread with the whingers and Ricki-lovers.
Gotta say, Ernie's gotten even more cred in my book by admitting that part of the fault on Sunday was his for playing the same tactics as against Newcastle and hoping the Heart wouldn't notice. Does anyone remember Ricki ever saying "I ballsed it up, I played the wrong tactics"?
Well..... tictacs?
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
Gotta say, Ernie's gotten even more cred in my book by admitting that part of the fault on Sunday was his for playing the same tactics as against Newcastle and hoping the Heart wouldn't notice. Does anyone remember Ricki ever saying "I ballsed it up, I played the wrong tactics"?
Gotta say, Ernie's gotten even more cred in my book by admitting that part of the fault on Sunday was his for playing the same tactics as against Newcastle and hoping the Heart wouldn't notice. Does anyone remember Ricki ever saying "I ballsed it up, I played the wrong tactics"?
Ernie has done a fantastic job reinventing players this year. Some of them like Lia have been turned into players far better then we would have thought possible. He has taken a kid like Boyd who looked talented but directionless last year and who is now playing good football. Ditto the transformation of Boxy and Stein.
However despite what seems like loads of effort Brockie is one of his failures. Despite giving him loads of game time and plenty of off field work Brockie is just not fitting in to Ernies system. There is a good article in todays NZHerald along these lines. It outline how Ernie wants Brockie playing more like Boyd and be more mobile and a team player but its not working. IMO at some point Ernie is just going to have to pull the plug and realise the Brockie is just too much of a round peg in a square hole and try and develop someone else who will play the role the team needs.
Brockie has an interesting history....he seems like one of those guys who has a natural ability to strike a ball cleanly.......however maybe at a younger age he did not receive the right sort of coaching and relied more on his natural talent. He got moved on by Sydney and also by the Jets(despite banging in some wondergoals) The Jets said he just did not fit into their system. Last year was a stella year for Brockie in terms of goal scoring. But maybe the circumstances suited his style. The Nix were a rabble.....they were frequently behind in games.....often the play got very disjointed and tactically the Nix had the ball pinging everywhere. They were relying on individuals like Iffil and Brockie to create. The opposition were often in the lead and dropped their defensive intensity. Games like this are tailor made for Brockie....he is in open space with poor marking and gets loads of chances to lash the ball goal wards.
Fast forward to this season and the Nix are playing a tightly structured team game where everyone has a well defined role. IMO this does not suit Brockie at all. Tough on the guy because he is obviously trying but the reality is he may never develop the skill set that Ernie and the team need.
To touch on the point of others, its great psychology from Ernie. The team have owned up and costs him nothing to do the same and it gets the players going 'well he has hung himself out rather than us. Respect'
Austin I think JD might have been the first to mention it a little while back but Brockie looks like he was severely under coached as a youngster and relied on his natural talent having an edge over others at his age (Prince Quansah for others that know him is identical) When you think about his career, he did well in a poor Canty side, did well in a poor Knights side, goes to Sydney and does nothing, comes back and mulls around in HBU. Gets a shot at the Fury which was nothing spectacular, the Jets he banged them in but strangely, they did not want to sell him for 400k to China despite him not being a fit for their game plan. Last year he looks good in a poor Phoenix team and this year, with some real direction in the team, he is missing. I mentioned this on Monday but he just likes to live on the line and he has not got the talent for that. Only Ifill has (and I suspect injury, age and speed will put a halt to that)
You never want to advocate selling a Kiwi player but the reality is that Boyd is a better fit for our style. I still believe that if Brockie is going to be this out of form, he just keeps making dummy runs and creates space for others until he does find the groove and it clicks. He shows absolutely no inkling of that at all so there is only one space for him and that's beside the assistant with a bib on getting splinters in his backside. The alternative is that Ernie needs to alter his game plan again but why would he when it works. Surely Brockie must see that.
Grumpy old bastard alert
Ernie has done a fantastic job reinventing players this year. Some of them like Lia have been turned into players far better then we would have thought possible. He has taken a kid like Boyd who looked talented but directionless last year and who is now playing good football. Ditto the transformation of Boxy and Stein.
However despite what seems like loads of effort Brockie is one of his failures. Despite giving him loads of game time and plenty of off field work Brockie is just not fitting in to Ernies system. There is a good article in todays NZHerald along these lines. It outline how Ernie wants Brockie playing more like Boyd and be more mobile and a team player but its not working. IMO at some point Ernie is just going to have to pull the plug and realise the Brockie is just too much of a round peg in a square hole and try and develop someone else who will play the role the team needs.
Brockie has an interesting history....he seems like one of those guys who has a natural ability to strike a ball cleanly.......however maybe at a younger age he did not receive the right sort of coaching and relied more on his natural talent. He got moved on by Sydney and also by the Jets(despite banging in some wondergoals) The Jets said he just did not fit into their system. Last year was a stella year for Brockie in terms of goal scoring. But maybe the circumstances suited his style. The Nix were a rabble.....they were frequently behind in games.....often the play got very disjointed and tactically the Nix had the ball pinging everywhere. They were relying on individuals like Iffil and Brockie to create. The opposition were often in the lead and dropped their defensive intensity. Games like this are tailor made for Brockie....he is in open space with poor marking and gets loads of chances to lash the ball goal wards.
Fast forward to this season and the Nix are playing a tightly structured team game where everyone has a well defined role. IMO this does not suit Brockie at all. Tough on the guy because he is obviously trying but the reality is he may never develop the skill set that Ernie and the team need.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
To touch on the point of others, its great psychology from Ernie. The team have owned up and costs him nothing to do the same and it gets the players going 'well he has hung himself out rather than us. Respect'
Austin I think JD might have been the first to mention it a little while back but Brockie looks like he was severely under coached as a youngster and relied on his natural talent having an edge over others at his age (Prince Quansah for others that know him is identical) When you think about his career, he did well in a poor Canty side, did well in a poor Knights side, goes to Sydney and does nothing, comes back and mulls around in HBU. Gets a shot at the Fury which was nothing spectacular, the Jets he banged them in but strangely, they did not want to sell him for 400k to China despite him not being a fit for their game plan. Last year he looks good in a poor Phoenix team and this year, with some real direction in the team, he is missing. I mentioned this on Monday but he just likes to live on the line and he has not got the talent for that. Only Ifill has (and I suspect injury, age and speed will put a halt to that)
You never want to advocate selling a Kiwi player but the reality is that Boyd is a better fit for our style. I still believe that if Brockie is going to be this out of form, he just keeps making dummy runs and creates space for others until he does find the groove and it clicks. He shows absolutely no inkling of that at all so there is only one space for him and that's beside the assistant with a bib on getting splinters in his backside. The alternative is that Ernie needs to alter his game plan again but why would he when it works. Surely Brockie must see that.
To touch on the point of others, its great psychology from Ernie. The team have owned up and costs him nothing to do the same and it gets the players going 'well he has hung himself out rather than us. Respect'
Austin I think JD might have been the first to mention it a little while back but Brockie looks like he was severely under coached as a youngster and relied on his natural talent having an edge over others at his age (Prince Quansah for others that know him is identical) When you think about his career, he did well in a poor Canty side, did well in a poor Knights side, goes to Sydney and does nothing, comes back and mulls around in HBU. Gets a shot at the Fury which was nothing spectacular, the Jets he banged them in but strangely, they did not want to sell him for 400k to China despite him not being a fit for their game plan. Last year he looks good in a poor Phoenix team and this year, with some real direction in the team, he is missing. I mentioned this on Monday but he just likes to live on the line and he has not got the talent for that. Only Ifill has (and I suspect injury, age and speed will put a halt to that)
You never want to advocate selling a Kiwi player but the reality is that Boyd is a better fit for our style. I still believe that if Brockie is going to be this out of form, he just keeps making dummy runs and creates space for others until he does find the groove and it clicks. He shows absolutely no inkling of that at all so there is only one space for him and that's beside the assistant with a bib on getting splinters in his backside. The alternative is that Ernie needs to alter his game plan again but why would he when it works. Surely Brockie must see that.
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Maybe Brockie is not out of form...maybe its that he does not have the skill set to play Ernies game. I kind of think Brockie gets game time now because he is one of the senior guys and Ernie does not want to fill the side with too many kids. Because I can't see any other reason. The "surely he must come back into form soon if we keep playing him" idea has long since worn thin IMO. We do have other options for that position. Kenny is a natural wide attacker who Ernie admits is currently playing out of position. Kenny is playing deeper because he is does a job there and we only have kids left in the squad to fill in if he was moved forward. IMO we are a senior midfielder short . Riera's injury has caused huge problems. Ernie has done a good job getting the best out of what is quite a thin squad......but the Riera injury looks like the last straw to me. He will need all his coaching ability to get the best out who we have left.
I think if Brockie was out of form, then the goal he scored (and it was a great effort) against Melbourne should have helped to snap it. You don't score goals like that if you are out of form unless you are starting to come back into form or its just a one off fluke. I would not say Brockie is a fluke artist, but he is not coming back into form either. I think its definitely of a senior player/international getting a bit more of a rub than say if it was a Ridenton or Boyd playing like that.
Agree we look to be an experienced midfielder short but we have said that for a couple of years now.
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To touch on the point of others, its great psychology from Ernie. The team have owned up and costs him nothing to do the same and it gets the players going 'well he has hung himself out rather than us. Respect'
Austin I think JD might have been the first to mention it a little while back but Brockie looks like he was severely under coached as a youngster and relied on his natural talent having an edge over others at his age (Prince Quansah for others that know him is identical) When you think about his career, he did well in a poor Canty side, did well in a poor Knights side, goes to Sydney and does nothing, comes back and mulls around in HBU. Gets a shot at the Fury which was nothing spectacular, the Jets he banged them in but strangely, they did not want to sell him for 400k to China despite him not being a fit for their game plan. Last year he looks good in a poor Phoenix team and this year, with some real direction in the team, he is missing. I mentioned this on Monday but he just likes to live on the line and he has not got the talent for that. Only Ifill has (and I suspect injury, age and speed will put a halt to that)
You never want to advocate selling a Kiwi player but the reality is that Boyd is a better fit for our style. I still believe that if Brockie is going to be this out of form, he just keeps making dummy runs and creates space for others until he does find the groove and it clicks. He shows absolutely no inkling of that at all so there is only one space for him and that's beside the assistant with a bib on getting splinters in his backside. The alternative is that Ernie needs to alter his game plan again but why would he when it works. Surely Brockie must see that.
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Maybe Brockie is not out of form...maybe its that he does not have the skill set to play Ernies game. I kind of think Brockie gets game time now because he is one of the senior guys and Ernie does not want to fill the side with too many kids. Because I can't see any other reason. The "surely he must come back into form soon if we keep playing him" idea has long since worn thin IMO. We do have other options for that position. Kenny is a natural wide attacker who Ernie admits is currently playing out of position. Kenny is playing deeper because he is does a job there and we only have kids left in the squad to fill in if he was moved forward. IMO we are a senior midfielder short . Riera's injury has caused huge problems. Ernie has done a good job getting the best out of what is quite a thin squad......but the Riera injury looks like the last straw to me. He will need all his coaching ability to get the best out who we have left.
Today's Herald: "...it's tough to reinvent yourself overnight." - J Brockie. Er... long night though, eh?
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
Gotta say, Ernie's gotten even more cred in my book by admitting that part of the fault on Sunday was his for playing the same tactics as against Newcastle and hoping the Heart wouldn't notice. Does anyone remember Ricki ever saying "I ballsed it up, I played the wrong tactics"?
Even if Ricki ever attempted to say something like that it never would have come out of his mouth like that. It would have been something more like:
"I think that, really, if you look at this group, and the experience both within and outside of, but also looking inwards towards the group, then probably the accountability that the individuals within the group have, really, collectively as a group, but also individually as individual members of a group, then I think that, to be honest, probably this group's responsibility/accountability matrix was out of alignment with the mission that this group had a collective responsibility to execute today. If I'm honest, without sugar-coating it, you choose what you choose and people can escalate that if they like, but ultimately, probably, we've all taken it incredibly deeply, and will learn to rectify it, really, although probably it's a blessing in disguise".
Gotta say, Ernie's gotten even more cred in my book by admitting that part of the fault on Sunday was his for playing the same tactics as against Newcastle and hoping the Heart wouldn't notice. Does anyone remember Ricki ever saying "I ballsed it up, I played the wrong tactics"?
Even if Ricki ever attempted to say something like that it never would have come out of his mouth like that. It would have been something more like:
"I think that, really, if you look at this group, and the experience both within and outside of, but also looking inwards towards the group, then probably the accountability that the individuals within the group have, really, collectively as a group, but also individually as individual members of a group, then I think that, to be honest, probably this group's responsibility/accountability matrix was out of alignment with the mission that this group had a collective responsibility to execute today. If I'm honest, without sugar-coating it, you choose what you choose and people can escalate that if they like, but ultimately, probably, we've all taken it incredibly deeply, and will learn to rectify it, really, although probably it's a blessing in disguise".
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
After 2 down I was waiting desperately for the half time so Ernie could get the team back on track, but back on the field, same crap ball. So that's his fault, kinda blackout, he should have a plan B.