Wellington Phoenix Men

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Oska wrote:
I'm completely against home A-League matches being played away from home, but if it has to happen, spread it round and go somewhere else. I think Dunedin, Hamilton, Napier and Auckland all should get Phoenix games before Christchurch gets another.
 
Uhm why? CHCH has proven twice it will pull a big crowd. + pre season games they got decent crowds.
 
I don't see why the Nix should be taken around the country when the odds are they can get a big crowd here.
 
Auckland had it;s chance with the NZK. How many people from the other cities are going to be interested?

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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Scottishbhoy wrote:
Oska wrote:
I'm completely against home A-League matches being played away from home, but if it has to happen, spread it round and go somewhere else. I think Dunedin, Hamilton, Napier and Auckland all should get Phoenix games before Christchurch gets another.
 
Uhm why? CHCH has proven twice it will pull a big crowd. + pre season games they got decent crowds.
 
I don't see why the Nix should be taken around the country when the odds are they can get a big crowd here.
 
Auckland had it;s chance with the NZK. How many people from the other cities are going to be interested?
 
 
Ah ha. So it's "now we've got our little piece of the Nix and we don't want anyone else to have any", eh? Much like a lot of people thought about taking a game to Christchurch at first. Hmm, interesting.
 
So you're suggesting that everybody in Auckland, Hamilton, Napier etc wouldn't want to go to a Nix game then?
Jag2010-12-06 14:49:57

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Next year, 10 home games in Welly, 1 in Chch, 1 in Akl, 1 in Hamilton, 1 in Dunedin, 1 in Napier
 
- drop the price of season ticket to reflect fewer games in welly
- maximiise the novelty value and local media hype from one-off nix appearances in other centres
 
14 home games is too many to expect Wellingtonians to turn up in big nos week after week, esp through the grind period of the season.
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Personally, I think 1 game away from Wellington is more than enough although I'd love to see them play in Hamilton or Auckland.  The team is the Wellington Phoenix and they shouldn't become the A League version of the Harlem Globetrotters.
 
I can see the potential financial benefit but, in my opinion, the team needs to stay in Wellington or risk alienating some of the fanbase there.
Jag2010-12-06 14:54:21

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Jag wrote:
Scottishbhoy wrote:
Oska wrote:
I'm completely against home A-League matches being played away from home, but if it has to happen, spread it round and go somewhere else. I think Dunedin, Hamilton, Napier and Auckland all should get Phoenix games before Christchurch gets another.




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Uhm why? CHCH has proven twice it will pull a big crowd. + pre season games they got decent crowds.

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I don't see why the Nix should be taken around the country when the odds are they can get a big crowd here.

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Auckland had it;s chance with the NZK. How many people from the other cities are going to be interested?




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Ah ha. So it's "now we've got our little piece of the Nix and we don't want anyone else to have any", eh? Much like a lot of people thought about taking a game to Christchurch at first. Hmm, interesting.

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So you're suggesting that�everybody in Auckland, Hamilton, Napier etc wouldn't want to go to a Nix game then?



Haha. Touche. Fair play. If I had it my way it would be the CHCH Nix and all the games would be here

Not at all, i'm just questioning how many people would show up from Dunedin Napier and everywhere else under the sun.

Spread the preseason games around to Dunedin Napier and Auckland and see what the turn up is like. Then move onto getting a proper game there. Chch had 3 preason games @ qe2 and all got good turnouts before having a proper game here. They tested the water and the market and got it right.

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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For all the reasons thrashed to death this time last year - max 2 away "home" games.
 
Christchurch is a given and one other.
 
Aside from the recession the reasons for the drop in crowds at the RoF this season are; sh*t house performances, sh*t house weather and too many Wednesday night games (too hard for familys, work commitments etc).
 
I think some of the weather issues will be addressed if the season starts 2 months later next year, the sh*t house performances are within our own control and hopefully there will be fewer mid week games next season as the FFA works out they are not popular with the supporters.
 
I accept there is a fatigue factor for Wellington supporters with the increased number of home games but I think 13 is manageable if the other issues are dealt with.
 
 
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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To be honest, if there was another "away" home game, I'd like Hamilton to get a crack.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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yeah Hamilton deserve it more than Auckland, and way more the Palmy.....

Queenslander 3x a year.

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I have a novel idea...

Why don't we play our home games at this place called Westpac Stadium?
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Jag wrote:
To be honest, if there was another "away" home game, I'd like Hamilton to get a crack.


I'd be happy for Hamilton to get a game. They got a reasonable crowd for a pre season game there against the Roar didn't they?

Three for me, and two for them.

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Buffon II wrote:
Jag wrote:
To be honest, if there was another "away" home game, I'd like Hamilton to get a crack.


I'd be happy for Hamilton to get a game. They got a reasonable crowd for a pre season game there against the Roar didn't they?
 
Not bad, considering it was played on a Saturday afternoon during the local football season

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Mr_Incredible wrote:

I have a novel idea...

Why don't we play our home games at this place called Westpac Stadium?
 
Of course this is also an option!

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Marius Lacatus wrote:
Next year, 10 home games in Welly, 1 in Chch, 1 in Akl, 1 in Hamilton, 1 in Dunedin, 1 in Napier
 
- drop the price of season ticket to reflect fewer games in welly
- maximiise the novelty value and local media hype from one-off nix appearances in other centres
 
14 home games is too many to expect Wellingtonians to turn up in big nos week after week, esp through the grind period of the season.
 
Should also change our name to New Zealand Phoenix.
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Now let's not get carried away! Taking 4 games away from Wellington would be a kick in the face to all those who, like yours truly, have spent money and time for the Nix since day 1 and have gone to every game. I think ChCh has done enough to earn another game, personally. However, it could be an idea to increase the fan base and have 1xgame elsewhere. But to do this, I'd like to see a huge crowd for a pre-season game or two first. Otherwise you run the risk to piss us all Wellingtonians off while only 2K people from H-Town turn up to the game.
 
 
Also, please let's acknowledge that increasing your fan base is a long process. In other countries you don't have this problem as every major city has its football team. Add to this the "damage" done to football by the Kings/Knights. For the first couple of years you could hear people talk about the Nix and wondering when they were going to fold - as the results were far from great and let's face it......we weren't that good!
Last year the trend changed. people understood that we're here to stay and we want to win the A-league eventually. That explains the awesome crowds at the RoF (especially during the Play off's but not only) and ChCh, too. If it wasn't for this stupid recession I think this year we would top 12-14k easily at home. But people have less money and can't or think they can't afford it anymore.

VUW AFC - Victoria University Football for life

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Just got back, another thoroughly enjoyable weekend down there. Hungover like a bitch though.
 
Definitely an annual thing I reckon.
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newzealandpower wrote:
Add to this the "damage" done to football by the Kings/Knights. For the first couple of years you could hear people talk about the Nix and wondering when they were going to fold


a) People still are talking about the Nix folding any day now (at least people who get their news from the Doom Post). The footballing model is sound; the financial model (of the whole A-League), perhaps not quite so.

b) As people keep saying without the Kingz and yes even the Knights there would have been no Nix. And the first two seasons of the Kingz were pretty good.

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I was one of the 14 thousand or so last night. It was sensational. The atmosphere was unreal.

Hopefully we have another game next year.
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Jag wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Jag wrote:
To be honest, if there was another "away" home game, I'd like Hamilton to get a crack.


I'd be happy for Hamilton to get a game. They got a reasonable crowd for a pre season game there against the Roar didn't they?
 
Not bad, considering it was played on a Saturday afternoon during the local football season


Personally I see over 9,000 attendees as better than just "reasonable" or "not bad"
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Robb wrote:
Jag wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Jag wrote:
To be honest, if there was another "away" home game, I'd like Hamilton to get a crack.


I'd be happy for Hamilton to get a game. They got a reasonable crowd for a pre season game there against the Roar didn't they?
 
Not bad, considering it was played on a Saturday afternoon during the local football season


Personally I see over 9,000 attendees as better than just "reasonable" or "not bad"



Ah, you got me, Mr W. I couldn't remember exactly what the crowd was. Just remembered that it was not bad at all given the circumstances.

In light of the facts, I think that 9,000 was a very good crowd indeed.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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The only venue that can hold a decent crowd in Napier is McLean Park that holds about 10,000 seated and another 10,000 standing on the bank. Not sure if you would fill it or get close to it TBH. Would love to see them here but I suspect it wouldn't get the numbers to make it lucrative enough.
 
Napier Phoenix2010-12-06 20:39:39
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YF on the MP embankment would be pretty awesome.
Fruglo on 15.01.2013 wrote:

Fuck this stupid game

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IMO the negative Nancys in the thread who are against ANY "home" games being played outside of Wellington and who think that to take more home games on the road should be accompanied by a name change to the "New Zealand Phoenix" are completely ignoring how much the rest of New Zealand really does give to this team.

There is a lot of support and goodwill from non-Wellingtonians to this team, and I honestly believe that the players and management appreciate this point.

I don't think there is a strong case for having a significantly increased number of games outside of Wellington, but a minimum of the one we currently have is fully justified IMO.

I really can't understand where the angst of having one game in the entire season outside of Wellington comes from no matter how fervent the fan.

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sh*t town, more fans
sh*t town, more fans.
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well that was a fantastic weekend, ill defiantly be returning
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Jag wrote:
To be honest, if there was another "away" home game, I'd like Hamilton to get a crack.

 
+1

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ahmad wrote:
IMO the negative Nancys in the thread who are against ANY "home" games being played outside of Wellington and who think that to take more home games on the road should be accompanied by a name change to the "New Zealand Phoenix" are completely ignoring how much the rest of New Zealand really does give to this team.

There is a lot of support and goodwill from non-Wellingtonians to this team, and I honestly believe that the players and management appreciate this point.

I don't think there is a strong case for having a significantly increased number of games outside of Wellington, but a minimum of the one we currently have is fully justified IMO.

I really can't understand where the angst of having one game in the entire season outside of Wellington comes from no matter how fervent the fan.
 
It's a very fine line.
 
The fan base in Wellington and the surrounding areas (plus the odd nutters who travel from Auckland and Christchurch for every game) is the life blood of the club. It doesn't make them better than fans elsewhere, that's not what I am saying. Home crowd numbers are crucial to the club's financial well being.
 
Within the home (Wellington) fan base there are inevitably (at least) the following categories of fans:
 
1. The Hardcore - they're there in the rain and sleet even when the team hasn't won for ages.
2. The semi -hardcore - they're usually there - many even have season tickets, but when the team is not going well and/or the weather is crap some of them drift away...
3. The interested casual - they love going to the Phoenix - they don't need converting to the experience, but they don't have a season ticket and so their attendance often drops off quickly due to poor form, poor weather, busy times of the year (Christmas holidays etc.)
4. The casual attendee - Will show up every time when the team is on a roll, is winning, and the publicity is good and Wellington is abuzz with Phoenix Fever. (like in the run in to the finals last year) but otherwise is not interested enough in football or the Phoenix to attend home games
5. The disinterested non-football fan - might show up in extreme circumstances like the run in to the final last year, otherwise the Phoenix are not their thing.
6. Everyone else - never been to a Phoenix game, might show up if the Phoenix were going stratospheric and selling out regularly otherwise no chance.
 
The impact on subsequent crowds at Wellington based games of taking home games away from Wellington is not about how groups 1. and 2. react to it. (and most of the Wellington people commenting on this forum are likely to be in groups 1. or 2.). It's about how it impacts on groups 3., 4. and potentially on group 5.
 
Crowds grow and shrink with momentum. Word of mouth, and the 'buzz' within the community has a BIG impact on the marginal fan's likelihood of attending the next match.
 
Without thinking about whether 'home' games are taken to other cities in New Zealand, even just 2 or 3 away games in a row in the draw typically has a negative impact on the crowd numbers at the following home game. This is (mostly) due to those fans in groups 3. and 4. losing touch with/interest in what is going on with the Phoenix. Many of them need a regular dose of Phoenix games every second week to stay tuned in.
 
Look at the thread about the 6 week Rugby World Cup period to see the issues of a prolonged period with no home games for fans to attend.
 
So, take a normal part of the draw... where it goes Home - away - home - away - home.
 
If you take the bold home game to another city outside of Wellington, that means there is (assuming no midweek games) 4 weeks between home games in Wellington. (each of the hyphens is a week between games). That period of time without a product to serve the Wellington public will always have an impact on the attendance of the fans in groups 3. and 4. at the next home game.
 
I understand the positive dimensions of the larger crowds at one off fixtures in Christchurch and/or Hamilton or Auckland etc. and the exposure to more of the NZ public. I am not discounting those. However, a realistic assessment of the costs and benefits needs to be more holistic.
 
If you had, hypothetically, the following situation... (and these numbers are just made up)
 
Home game a (6,200)
Away game
Home game b (6,700)
Away game
Home game c (7,125)
 
Then it is too simplistic to say if we had taken Home game b to Christchurch and got a crowd of 15,000 then in terms of gate receipts we'd be 8,300 better off. You also have to subtract the number of fans less you get at Home game c. And with the attendances at your regular home ground these things are cumulative. Every 500 people who don't show up for Home game c don't just not show up for Home game c, but there is a flow on effect to following home games after that too - not just for the portion of those 500 fans who stay away after Home game c, but there's also the friends that they don't tell about the Phoenix and so on...
 
The Kingz took games on the road around New Zealand and at one stage took two consecutive home games 'on the road' and it popped the bubble of enthusiasm of their Auckland based fans... 6 weeks with no game to go to and all the benefits and enthusiasm that had built up was lost and crowds were way down when they finally played at home again.
 
For me, this is at the heart of the angst of fans who are against taking more games away from Wellington. I know they can travel to the 'on the road games', and some of them will... mostly fans from groups 1. and 2. however. The impact of 'on the road' home games on the Wellington fan base can be minimised by the taking into account the following:
 
a. Not doing it in a part of the draw that looks like this: Away - Away - Home - Away - Away.
b. Doing it in a part of the draw that looks like this : Away - Home - Home - Away - Home.
c. Doing it in and around a Wednesday home game so that the gap between Wellington home games is minimised e.g. Away - Home (Wed) - Home (Sat/Sun) - Away - Home
d. not having two 'on the road' home games back to back - spread them apart in the season if you are going to do it more than once.
 
1 'on the road' home game is, I think working well. Very careful thought needs to be put into taking a second one away...
bwtcf2010-12-07 10:49:39

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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tldr version; we both agree 1 game is good, and more probably not so good

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I say keep it as it is. If chch fans stop turning up then give it to another place...unless we keep beating Adelaide here haha
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bwtcf wrote:
ahmad wrote:
IMO the negative Nancys in the thread who are against ANY "home" games being played outside of Wellington and who think that to take more home games on the road should be accompanied by a name change to the "New Zealand Phoenix" are completely ignoring how much the rest of New Zealand really does give to this team. There is a lot of support and goodwill from non-Wellingtonians to this team, and I honestly believe that the players and management appreciate this point. I don't think there is a strong case for having a significantly increased number of games outside of Wellington, but a minimum of the one we currently have is fully justified IMO. I really can't understand where the angst of having one game in the entire season outside of Wellington comes from no matter how fervent the fan.

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It's a very fine line.

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The fan base in Wellington and the surrounding areas (plus the odd nutters who travel from Auckland and Christchurch for every game) is the life blood of the club. It doesn't make them better than fans elsewhere, that's not what�I am saying. Home crowd numbers are crucial to the club's financial well being.

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Within the home (Wellington) fan base there are inevitably (at least) the following categories of fans:

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1. The Hardcore - they're there in the rain and sleet even when the team hasn't won for ages.

2. The semi -hardcore - they're usually there - many even have season tickets, but when the team is not going well and/or the weather is crap some of them drift away...

3. The interested casual - they love going to the Phoenix - they don't need converting to the experience, but they don't have a season ticket and so their attendance often drops off quickly due to poor form, poor weather, busy times of the year (Christmas holidays etc.)

4. The casual attendee - Will show up every time when the team is on a roll, is winning, and the publicity is good and Wellington is abuzz with Phoenix Fever. (like in the run in to the finals last year) but otherwise is not interested enough in football or the Phoenix to attend home games

5. The disinterested non-football fan - might show up in extreme circumstances like the run in to the final last year, otherwise the Phoenix are not their thing.

6. Everyone else - never been to a Phoenix game, might show up if the Phoenix were going stratospheric and selling out regularly otherwise no chance.

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The impact on subsequent crowds at Wellington based games of taking home games away from Wellington is not about how groups 1. and 2. react to it. (and most of the Wellington people�commenting on this forum are likely to be in groups 1. or 2.). It's about how it impacts on groups 3., 4. and potentially on group 5.

�

Crowds grow and shrink with momentum. Word of mouth, and the 'buzz' within the community has a BIG impact on the marginal fan's likelihood of attending the next match.

�

Without thinking about whether 'home' games are taken to other cities in New Zealand, even just 2 or 3 away games in a row in the draw typically has a negative impact on the crowd numbers at the following home game. This is (mostly) due to those fans in groups 3. and 4. losing touch with/interest in what is going on with the Phoenix.�Many of them�need a regular dose of Phoenix games every second week to stay tuned in.

�

Look at the thread about the 6 week Rugby World Cup period to see the issues of a prolonged period with no home games for fans to attend.

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So, take a normal part of the draw... where it goes Home - away - home - away - home.

�

If you take the bold home game to another city outside of Wellington, that means there is (assuming no midweek games) 4 weeks between home games in Wellington. (each of the hyphens is a week between games). That period of time without a product to serve the Wellington public will always have an impact on the attendance of the fans in groups 3. and 4. at the next home game.

�

I understand the positive dimensions of the larger crowds at one off fixtures in Christchurch and/or Hamilton or Auckland etc. and the exposure to more of the NZ public. I am not discounting those. However, a realistic assessment of the costs and benefits needs to be more holistic.

�

If you had, hypothetically, the following situation... (and these numbers are just made up)

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Home game a (6,200)

Away game

Home game b (6,700)

Away game

Home game c (7,125)

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Then it is too simplistic to say if we had taken Home game�b to Christchurch and got a crowd of 15,000 then in terms of gate receipts we'd be 8,300 better off. You also have to subtract the number of fans less you get at Home game c. And with the <SPAN ="J-JK9eJ-PJVNOc">attendanc</SPAN>es at your regular home ground these things are cumulative. Every 500 people who don't show up for Home game c don't just not show up for Home game c, but there is a flow on effect to following home games after that too - not just for the portion of those 500 fans who stay away after Home game c, but there's also the friends that they don't tell about the Phoenix and so on...

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The <SPAN ="J-JK9eJ-PJVNOc">Kingz</SPAN> took games on the road around New Zealand and at one stage took two consecutive home games 'on the road' and it popped the bubble of enthusiasm of their Auckland based fans... 6 weeks with no game to go to and all the benefits and enthusiasm that had built up was lost and crowds were way down when they finally played at home again.

�

For me, this is at the heart of the angst of fans who are against taking more games away from Wellington. I know they can travel to the 'on the road games', and some of them will... mostly fans from groups 1. and 2. however. The impact of 'on the road' home games on the Wellington fan base can be minimised by the taking into account the following:

�

a. Not doing it in a part of the draw that looks like this: Away - Away - Home - Away - Away.

b. Doing it in a part of the draw that looks like this : Away - Home - Home - Away - Home.

c. Doing it in and around a Wednesday home game so that the gap between Wellington home games is minimised e.g. Away - Home (Wed) - Home (Sat/Sun) - Away - Home

d. not having two 'on the road' home games back to back - spread them apart in the season if you are going to do it more than once.

�

1 'on the road' home game is, I think working well. Very careful thought needs to be put into taking a second one away...


Definitely agree mate, there should be at least three and possibly four away games to reward the rest of the country and line the club's pockets.

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3/4 games around the country? you are joking right.......1 home game sent to chch is fine with me, any more and I'll be seriously pissed.
 
if the rest of tghe country really want an A-league team, then start your own franchise.
theprof2010-12-08 08:35:31

Queenslander 3x a year.

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How many times do I have to say it? Take a game to Growers Stadium, Pukekohe. Halfway between Auckland and Hamilton. Perfect. Well, perfect for me anyway.
 
You can all come round to my place for a BBQ and a beer afterwards 
 
 
 
p.s. Before somebody posts some angst filled rant about how stupid that suggestion is, I was joking, by the way. About having all of you round to my place, I mean!
Jag2010-12-08 09:29:27

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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season starting late due to world cup, why would that mean more home (away) games.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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Any chance any of the other teams would do it (ie take a home game v the Nix to Ch-Ch)? Similar to what has been tried in the NRL over the years.

The Roosters got 20k to their 'home' game v the Warriors in Ch-Ch last year and that was one of the worst conditions I have ever watched a game in, freezing cold and rained the whole time.

I guess cost would be the underlying factor but say for example Gold Coast takes their home game to Ch-Ch, their crowds go from around 2k to maybe around 15k.

Be fantastic if at least one club did that...


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As much as I loved having a Nix game in Chch so that I could drive instead of fly to it, I think many of the posts here calling for more games away from Wellington are ignoring the oft mentioned point that there is a novelty factor in having the single game in Christchurch for the most recent 2 seasons.

As much as I'd like to say it wouldn't happen, I imagine that a second game would cannibalise some of the crowd from the other game. I'm not sure how strong this effect would be but I imagine it would be significant.

The smaller crowds might still be better than those that would turn up if the game was held in Wellington or for example on the Gold Coast, but I don't think this makes up for the loss of a home game for Wellington fans (I appreciate that if it was a GCU game then it wouldn't be the loss of Wellington game but it would eat into the "home game" for the Nix in Chch).

If GCU takes a home game to NZ then I personally would hope it to be in Hamilton/Auckland rather than Christchurch (presuming Phoenix management continue to have that one game in Christchurch in any future seasons).ahmad2010-12-08 11:07:08

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Jag wrote:
How many times do I have to say it? Take a game to Growers Stadium, Pukekohe. Halfway between Auckland and Hamilton. Perfect. Well, perfect for me anyway.


Could be doable, especially if they can run special trains/buses out to Puke for the game (from the 'Tron as well). I would love to catch a train to Puke.

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Dougie Rydal wrote:
say for example Gold Coast takes their home game to Ch-Ch, their crowds go from around 2k to maybe around 15k.


Simpler - GCU move to Christchurch altogether.

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Doloras wrote:
Jag wrote:
How many times do I have to say it? Take a game to Growers Stadium, Pukekohe. Halfway between Auckland and Hamilton. Perfect. Well, perfect for me anyway.


Could be doable, especially if they can run special trains/buses out to Puke for the game (from the 'Tron as well). I would love to catch a train to Puke.
 
Excellent. The "Play a game at The Ring Of Onions" bandwagon has started to roll.   
Jag2010-12-08 11:42:52

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I really enjoyed the trip to Chch this year. My football team's normal end of season trip to Blenheim was cancelled so we organised to come down to Chch and watch the Phoenix. Along with the Dux de Lux we oranised a social tournament for the Saturday, including 12 holes at Hagley park on Friday = a pretty awesome weekend. We are looking at hosting the Dux de Lux team up here later in the season in a similar format, social football tournament and then the Phoneix.

So, I would really like Chch to have at least 1 game a season, preferably on a Sunday so we can have the tournament on the Saturday.

However, I wouldn't want too many games played away from Wellington. Love to watch the 'Nix live and I would imagine that all games played away would be on the weekend leaving Wellington with a proportionately high amount of mid week games, which isn't great for a lot of people - as reflected in attendance figures.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Bullion, why the f**k would you organise an end of season trip to Blenheim?
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