Remember, we are not operating in a bubble here, if little to no football is being played elsewhere in the world and teams everywhere are shedding players and/or wages - we have every chance to retain whoever we want in much the same way as if the landscape was rosey.
roar have released their players, i think our players are off to wanganui city.
Remember, we are not operating in a bubble here, if little to no football is being played elsewhere in the world and teams everywhere are shedding players and/or wages - we have every chance to retain whoever we want in much the same way as if the landscape was rosey.
roar have released their players, i think our players are off to wanganui city.
They haven't released their players, they have stood them down, which is something that I don't think we have in NZ employment law but is something they can do in Australia. They don't have the government paying 30% of the wages of affected businesses in Australia as we do in NZ, so hopefully the Phoenix don't have to be that drastic.
Remember, we are not operating in a bubble here, if little to no football is being played elsewhere in the world and teams everywhere are shedding players and/or wages - we have every chance to retain whoever we want in much the same way as if the landscape was rosey.
roar have released their players, i think our players are off to wanganui city.
They haven't released their players, they have stood them down, which is something that I don't think we have in NZ employment law but is something they can do in Australia. They don't have the government paying 30% of the wages of affected businesses in Australia as we do in NZ, so hopefully the Phoenix don't have to be that drastic.
Remember, we are not operating in a bubble here, if little to no football is being played elsewhere in the world and teams everywhere are shedding players and/or wages - we have every chance to retain whoever we want in much the same way as if the landscape was rosey.
roar have released their players, i think our players are off to wanganui city.
They haven't released their players, they have stood them down, which is something that I don't think we have in NZ employment law but is something they can do in Australia. They don't have the government paying 30% of the wages of affected businesses in Australia as we do in NZ, so hopefully the Phoenix don't have to be that drastic.
As I said, stand down is not the same as letting players go. The Phoenix compete in Australia but they are a NZ company and are bound by NZ employment law.
I wouldn't be surprised if the players agreed to a paycut like other codes, or agreed to a pay holiday, or a few of the more expensive players went mutual, or even if the club folded, but get your facts straight at least.
(shh dude he's trying an anti-jinx, worked most of the season)
(shh dude he's trying an anti-jinx, worked most of the season)
Meh, I'm not superstitious. His trolling annoyed me during the season too.
But I didn't ask him to stop it, I asked him to get his facts right. He's perfectly entitled to anti jinx accurately.
Remember, we are not operating in a bubble here, if little to no football is being played elsewhere in the world and teams everywhere are shedding players and/or wages - we have every chance to retain whoever we want in much the same way as if the landscape was rosey.
roar have released their players, i think our players are off to wanganui city.
They haven't released their players, they have stood them down, which is something that I don't think we have in NZ employment law but is something they can do in Australia. They don't have the government paying 30% of the wages of affected businesses in Australia as we do in NZ, so hopefully the Phoenix don't have to be that drastic.
As I said, stand down is not the same as letting players go. The Phoenix compete in Australia but they are a NZ company and are bound by NZ employment law.
I wouldn't be surprised if the players agreed to a paycut like other codes, or agreed to a pay holiday, or a few of the more expensive players went mutual, or even if the club folded, but get your facts straight at least.
How’s your facts on ‘the government paying 30% of the wages of affected businesses’?
Remember, we are not operating in a bubble here, if little to no football is being played elsewhere in the world and teams everywhere are shedding players and/or wages - we have every chance to retain whoever we want in much the same way as if the landscape was rosey.
roar have released their players, i think our players are off to wanganui city.
They haven't released their players, they have stood them down, which is something that I don't think we have in NZ employment law but is something they can do in Australia. They don't have the government paying 30% of the wages of affected businesses in Australia as we do in NZ, so hopefully the Phoenix don't have to be that drastic.
As I said, stand down is not the same as letting players go. The Phoenix compete in Australia but they are a NZ company and are bound by NZ employment law.
I wouldn't be surprised if the players agreed to a paycut like other codes, or agreed to a pay holiday, or a few of the more expensive players went mutual, or even if the club folded, but get your facts straight at least.
How’s your facts on ‘the government paying 30% of the wages of affected businesses’?
You're quite right, it's not 30%, it's a flat rate of $585 per week.
Thanks for pointing it out.
Well as we have got that sorted and $585 verses 30 per cent might not go as far in the bigger scheme of things and every other code appears to be in negotation with their employers is there any word on what's happening with the Nix players?
Paycut?
At this stage the phoenix are doubling down in their social media and the players seem happy.
At this stage the phoenix are doubling down in their social media and the players seem happy.
Which ones have you talked to?
At this stage the phoenix are doubling down in their social media and the players seem happy.
Which ones have you talked to?
The social media... It's called a sentence.
Players still in isolation?
The A-league is heading into unchartered waters. It’s looking like Fox sports is about to pull the pin. Each club was due a $900,000 payment by Fox sports next month. If that does not happen then it’s hard to imagine how any club can keep paying wages.
It’s quite likely that it would be possible to play football again at the start of the next A-league season. How that is going to work is anyone’s guess. For a start it’s unlikely that any Govt will approve mass gatherings of people until everyone has been vaccinated. The best case scenario I have read is that a vaccine is at least 12 months away. So it’s A-league in empty stadiums. Then if Fox sports quits the league will need to find a new broadcaster. At the moment they get $57 million a year. There won’t be firms queuing up to pay anything like that.
What we could end up with is A-league lite. The budget version with low wage players playing in empty suburban grounds and streamed live. If the transTasman travel ban is still on then the Nix would have to get a dispensation to get them self’s based in Australia for the duration of the season. If that doesn’t work out we might see a low wage Nix team playing in the NZ local Premier competition in place of the disbanded Nix reserve side.
The A-league is heading into unchartered waters. It’s looking like Fox sports is about to pull the pin. Each club was due a $900,000 payment by Fox sports next month. If that does not happen then it’s hard to imagine how any club can keep paying wages.
It’s quite likely that it would be possible to play football again at the start of the next A-league season. How that is going to work is anyone’s guess. For a start it’s unlikely that any Govt will approve mass gatherings of people until everyone has been vaccinated. The best case scenario I have read is that a vaccine is at least 12 months away. So it’s A-league in empty stadiums. Then if Fox sports quits the league will need to find a new broadcaster. At the moment they get $57 million a year. There won’t be firms queuing up to pay anything like that.
What we could end up with is A-league lite. The budget version with low wage players playing in empty suburban grounds and streamed live. If the transTasman travel ban is still on then the Nix would have to get a dispensation to get them self’s based in Australia for the duration of the season. If that doesn’t work out we might see a low wage Nix team playing in the NZ local Premier competition in place of the disbanded Nix reserve side.
All the world's leagues will pretty much be in the same boat. Heavy cost cutting needed, players and staff taking salary cuts.
However the A League losing Fox Sports would obviously be massive extra blow. I don't think the A League would fold, but yes would need to par right back to a very cheap model, maybe with a reduction in visa players, to be almost be like the old NSL - or how CCM operate now.
That could be a real prospect for a season or so, if Fox pulled the plug, and took FFA/NLWG awhile to put together a replacement broadcasting deal. And if they can construct a new deal (likely a combination of various media), may never be as good as the Fox deal.
But do just wonder if Fox are playing games. Sure pay TV as a model is struggling, but what other sports do they have to broadcast over the summer months? Big Bash cricket. EPL which is played in the middle of the night. I still think they will be looking for content over the summer. Maybe they just want to push FFA/NLWG into a corner, talk down the value of the A League, and seek a reduction in the existing (using some failure to provide product clause) and next contract.
Some big big challenges ahead for NLWG, Rob Morrison and the other owners.
Not sure how Sydney FC pushing for extra visa spots, and relaxation of the salary cap is going to work amongst these problems. Seems unrealistic now.
And yes see the league restarting behind closed doors as a given, with Nix seeking dispensation to base themselves in NSW/VIC if needed. There is just no market for a semi pro type NZ comp.
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And yes see the league restarting behind closed doors as a given, with Nix seeking dispensation to base themselves in NSW/VIC if needed. There is just no market for a semi pro type NZ comp.
Is Taylor's jet ski on Trademe?
Are Taylor's Hoopers Balls jet skis on Trademe?
The A-league is heading into unchartered waters. It’s looking like Fox sports is about to pull the pin. Each club was due a $900,000 payment by Fox sports next month. If that does not happen then it’s hard to imagine how any club can keep paying wages.
It’s quite likely that it would be possible to play football again at the start of the next A-league season. How that is going to work is anyone’s guess. For a start it’s unlikely that any Govt will approve mass gatherings of people until everyone has been vaccinated. The best case scenario I have read is that a vaccine is at least 12 months away. So it’s A-league in empty stadiums. Then if Fox sports quits the league will need to find a new broadcaster. At the moment they get $57 million a year. There won’t be firms queuing up to pay anything like that.
What we could end up with is A-league lite. The budget version with low wage players playing in empty suburban grounds and streamed live. If the transTasman travel ban is still on then the Nix would have to get a dispensation to get them self’s based in Australia for the duration of the season. If that doesn’t work out we might see a low wage Nix team playing in the NZ local Premier competition in place of the disbanded Nix reserve side.
Finally then, a true local and organic football league to support!
Just great! I cant see the Nixs surviving if Fox pulls the plug, there is no way Optus wants a NZ team leeching from them as Optus is not in NZ. Also the Nixs are broke so that dont help.
Just great! I cant see the Nixs surviving if Fox pulls the plug, there is no way Optus wants a NZ team leeching from them as Optus is not in NZ. Also the Nixs are broke so that dont help.
fudge i'm taking a break, haven't seen a single positive post on this forum in weeks. All doom and gloom apparently
fudge i'm taking a break, haven't seen a single positive post on this forum in weeks. All doom and gloom apparently
A bit like watching any of the news channels
You want cheering up??
fudge i'm taking a break, haven't seen a single positive post on this forum in weeks. All doom and gloom apparently
What? We are fudging hard to beat at the moment. Guarantee we do not lose in April or May
I'd be surprised if we dropped a single point.
I'd be surprised if we dropped a single point.
If they play...
You want cheering up??
Lg everyone gets a million of these a day so keep it football related aye
digital Cacace (dCacace) is much worse than real Cacace.
Want the possession and shots statistics
digital Cacace (dCacace) is much worse than real Cacace.
Want the possession and shots statistics
What did you expect? The digital version is only bits.
digital Cacace (dCacace) is much worse than real Cacace.
Want the possession and shots statistics
What did you expect? The digital version is only bits.
At least it's a better result than the real game!
I'd be surprised if we dropped a single point.
Don't pretend like you look forward to anything
I'd be surprised if we dropped a single point.
Don't pretend like you look forward to anything
I'd be surprised if we dropped a single point.
Don't pretend like you look forward to anything
No you don't mate
Making that feat more impressive is that the Phoenix are understood to have one of the most expensive playing rosters in the competition's history.
I know Hooper will be on big bucks, maybe Davila is a secret marquee?
Great holiday, in a lock down
Making that feat more impressive is that the Phoenix are understood to have one of the most expensive playing rosters in the competition's history.
I know Hooper will be on big bucks, maybe Davila is a secret marquee?
But it may not be if they volunteer
